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  • I’ve been thinking about ways of raising the profile of the freeparty scene in a good way, and as far as i can see there are a few people with the right idea:

    Ambient Picnic ambientpicnic.co.uk

    and

    Brighton Alliance of Sound Systems.. bass23.org

    but im just a southerner, and south east at that, so i recon there must be more people out there doin the same…bringing crews together, putting on public events which inolve the community and support sustainability.

    Glastonbury now has 3million peole wanting tickets, and no matter how many other festies are going on, i still recon theres more than enough punters to go round. El Retardo posted this link of a smallish scale scots fest, http://palgowan.tk/ and while they have more land than us, and its prolly well cheap compared to s.e. prices, it still fills me with hope.

    the BASS already do several events round the soutg east including the dance tent at the cannabis march and their own bass fayre in the centre of brighton in august. the fayre i haven’t been to, but looks phat. I hope to help as much as poss to get an idea of how its done.

    I would like to put on a fest outside brighton, bit more large scale. ive asked the council for the neccessary bunf, the forklift should be here soon to bury me in paperwork…

    i recon the artists will be the least of my worries. planning, land, amenities (loos and drinking water etc) are gonna be a bastard.

    all of these are just ideas at the mo, im in no position to acheive this quite yet, but its looking that the more people i link the more of the stress etc gets shared out.

    all thoughts, suggestions and advice very welcome 🙂

    I hope KC or someone similar will turn up on here and provide more specifics, but here’s an overview of what happens…..

    many of the rules will be dictated by meetings with the Council, the Police and Fire and Rescue Service – and will be decided when the venue is known (the license admin fee is non-refundable BTW whether they let the event happen or not..)

    also a link to official advice on health and safety

    http://www.hse.gov.uk/entertainment/index.htm

    One thing which is essential is good comms across the site – hand-held analogue two-way radios are more reliable and quicker in use than mobiles, but people will need training their correct use.

    At ambient there were different channels for security, stages and general comms (IMO perhaps too many, there was confusion sometimes which one to use!)

    You may need to hire them specially, although you can use the public PMR446 band everyone can buy these radios and you may find random people monitoring your transmissions and attempting to disrupt them like with the old CB sets…

    Oh, and you do not say “Over and out” (thats only in the movies). (its one or the other words only depending whether you expect a reply or not).

    The way officialdom responds to a festival is varied – some areas invoke a form of the Area Major Incident Protocol which is the same thing they use for contamination or terrorist attack! There will need to be traffic management, access for blue light services if needed, but don’t let their official paranoia get out of hand – you should be treated as an asset to the community, not a hindrance. If you show them you know what you are doing they should be prepared to accept this. A certain amount of organisation (without stifling creativity) should help.

    Stewards should be chosen carefully, you do not want the obvious bouncer type who can cause more beef than they prevent, particularly if recruited from the local “hard men” (there will be others who may try to challenge them).

    Expect curious chavs. They will turn up…

    Make sure everyone has clear roles and responsibilities and prevent ego causuing problems..

    Be prepared to challenge the inevitable whingers who will say “risk of disruption/noise/terrorist attack”, be prepared to address the media as well as their complaints.

    Finances – keep a close eye on costs and a closer eye on any loose cash (sadly, there are people on the scene who cannot be trusted with loose cash, they will try and dip a bit). Learn how to work spreadsheets if you do not already

    Make a “recovery plan” for anything which may goe pear-shaped – think about stuff like what would happen if chavs lobbed a CS into the main tent? what if the genset packs up, or acts don’t turn up? fires, floods, overturned chemical toilets? Plan for these things but hope for the best….

    just some thoughts

    you could try running it as a not-for-profit… the only real perk being that you don’t pay tax and the get the kudos of putting it all back into an even better one next time 😉 (no-one likes a mean fiddler)

    if you set up as a not-for-profit organisation you can seek funding or support from local authority, unions, statutory agencies (if they feel you have some common purpose eg. in Exeter the RESPECT festival promotes cultural diversity and this is something the city council is also keen to do more of)and even get your event underwritten if it has a solid basis / plan

    if you can recruit a committee or steering group then you can delegate certain tasks to people with the skills to carry them out

    could you hold a first event at an art or community centre… perhaps with marquees to provide extra arenas? make as much of the daytime as possible… i mean as much interactive stuff that will appeal to a wider community than just music. The night can then be a full on music and dance event.

    if it goes well this can go a long way to convincing license givers that you are serious and committed to good quality events

    the guys and girls behind Shambala might be able to give a little advice IM me if you can’t find a contact email

    I’d certainly go with what globaloon said particularly with regard to setting up not-for-profit organisations (its when people think you are making money that the dark stuff happens like people trying to skim funds or disrupt things) – although he might want to spam-trap that e-mail address, every bit of unwanted e-mail takes up resources that group could use for better purposes..

    General Lighting wrote:
    although he might want to spam-trap that e-mail address

    *edited

    thanks for reminding me GL 🙂

    email the guys who set up palgowan coz they should b able 2 helo there sound guys still doin small club nights an the like so theyll b mor than happy 2 help

    We have provided first aid, ambulance and medical support to a number of music and dance events including global gathering.

    I can provide the details of requirements to meet local authority licensing, stuff like how many stewards you need, how many portaloo’s ect ect. My specialist subject is the event medical side of things but from attending the licensing meetings in the past i may be able to point you in the right direction.

    If you require any help or advice (free, just guestlist me at this event!) please feel free to contact me:

    0783 567 4 999 or nightclubmedic@yahoo.co.uk

    The rules and regulations regarding a PEL license are pretty much the same across the board but some councils can be more hard work than others… Dumfries and Galloway where we held Palgowan for example are the most expensive council in scotland for a PEL license.

    PM me if you want specific info on anything regarding the application process etc it’s hard work and i wouldn’t suggest trying to do it alone there were 4 of us doing it and it was still bloody hard work… we always have had Palgowan as non profit and given money to charity.. all the rigs involved got their expenses back for van hire etc…

    Any way pm me if you have any questions..

    Peace out Acidfairy

    basically ive found a few sites near brighton, wrtten to the council for advice on what thype of PEL we need, and i’m waiting.

    dont worry, theres no way id try and do it on my own, im just trying to help BASS (brighton allience of sound systems) as they have been putting on nice lowkey events for a few years, and have built up a relationship with the council and would now like to put on summat with a bit more balls. the solstice parade and the bass fayre are all very well and good, they are great in fact, but an ickle fest would be even better.

    the organisation is massive, i cant even begin to layout the whole thing, even for a small event. the posibilities are endless. anyone who wants to help in any way, keep posting.

    cheers for all the input so far, you are a bunch of diamonds.

    Hi folks,

    The best advice i can offer you re organising an outdoor music event is to get a copy of the Health and Safety Purple Guide to Events, this publication is used by ALL local authories, emergency services and organisors and works very closely to the requirements of a PEL.

    This book is broken down into various chapters including everything from: the choice of the site to HSE Laws concerning everything from lighting to loo’s. I have worked at nearly all the major UK festival including V, global gathering, Download ect as a medic and safety officer so if you require any advice feel free to get in touch

    nightclubmedics@yahoo.co.uk

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