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IF YOU GOT NUFFIN TO FEAR YOU GOT NUFFIN TO HIDE!!
but i wanna have cyber sex with a 50 year old man in private 🙁
@p0ly 531599 wrote:
but i wanna have cyber sex with a 50 year old man in private 🙁
Well, as it’s your birthday mate, you should be able to do whatever you want today!
@p0ly 531599 wrote:
but i wanna have cyber sex with a 50 year old man in private 🙁
I am sure your find a way matey
@photographthesun 531598 wrote:
I do feel sorry for the kids who got sentenced for the riots (I was in Egypt at the time so missed a lot of the details); seems like they really made an example of them. Custodial sentences for picking up a can of coke out of a looted shop and stuff. You can see why they have done it but for the individuals its a real shame.
true but no worse than two of my mates getting prison for raves in a Suffolk forest, which even the coppers didn’t quite agree with but there had been such a massive backlash from the rural community who wanted to see justice done (the sentences were actually in line with others for serious vandalism/environmental damage). At least they didn’t get done for drugs/money laundering which was one of the original charges.
As for Facebook they openly say not to use the site for illegal stuff and that they work with Police, also if the feds wanted to do all the surveillance undercover they easily could, a lot of the news reporting is deliberately aimed to warn people that online and real life are not now two different planets. Below is what happens when FB is used incorrectly, even in a rich, affluent, safe European country..
http://www.partyviberadio.com/forums/chat/53211-nl-een-grote-oeps-riot.html
I love how they renamed ‘Big Brother’ as ‘Big Data’
Remember peeps, your privacy is only being invaded for your own good lol
@General Lighting 531604 wrote:
true but no worse than two of my mates getting prison for raves in a Suffolk forest, which even the coppers didn’t quite agree with but there had been such a massive backlash from the rural community who wanted to see justice done (the sentences were actually in line with others for serious vandalism/environmental damage). At least they didn’t get done for drugs/money laundering which was one of the original charges.
As for Facebook they openly say not to use the site for illegal stuff and that they work with Police, also if the feds wanted to do all the surveillance undercover they easily could, a lot of the news reporting is deliberately aimed to warn people that online and real life are not now two different planets. Below is what happens when FB is used incorrectly, even in a rich, affluent, safe European country..
http://www.partyviberadio.com/forums/chat/53211-nl-een-grote-oeps-riot.html
Yup what happened to your mates its a very similar thing I guess, every so often they throw the book at people just to shake things up and make people think twice (or if enough middle class people complain and unite). Its certainly not fair to the individual at all. But then again being involved in organising raves is going to have inherent risks and can cause a lot of damage and upset for people. Rig owners have certainly got some balls I will give them that! Must have its own rewards.
Interesting link that I remember a few similar cases (although not quite so severe).
what is so bad about being arrested? It gives you the chance to repeatedly say “no comment” for hours on end, refuse to sign anything, and get a FREE kicking too.
@General Lighting 531586 wrote:
Of course you can simply not put it there in the first place – I’ve never used facebook and never will and am careful what I post on here (its easy enough to work out who I am because of my other hobbies the other languages I study)
that said the social networks are the modern equivalent of CB radio in many respects and it was accepted that nothing was private and the authorities can (and did) monitor them….
I agree and I never put any information in public that reveals where I live or what I’m doing but a lot of people my age (especially since I’ve lived abroad for most of my life) use fb to communicate with each other because it’s more convenient for them than using a different service. When you don’t want to fall out of touch with certain people it becomes a “necessary evil.” The thing that bothers me is that they can monitor chats so even if you know you can trust the person you’re speaking to, someone else is watching.
It does concern me that police are circumventing due process by buying information from companies. That should definitely be addressed and be made illegal.
@Pat McDonald 531636 wrote:
what is so bad about being arrested? It gives you the chance to repeatedly say “no comment” for hours on end, refuse to sign anything, and get a FREE kicking too.
Getting arrested is not the problem, getting charged & convicted is, it effects the rest of your life. My juvenile record ( which is meant to be sealed & confidential ) was the reason I didnt get a job I applied for in the MoD when I was 18, my whole life might have been different without one silly mistake.
Adult criminal records are open for all to see and many employers do CRB checks
On the ‘free Kicking’, you might think thats a joke but it’s not, I was assaulted by a police officer when arrested, of course I made a complaint afterwards, even had bruises from it but two other officers lied and said my injuries were from resisting arrest ( like I could really resist as a skinny 15yo against 3 huge trained adults in body armour ) and my complaint was not only dismissed but I was also charged with assault myself for an accidental collision which they claimed was a headbutt, I pleaded guilty even though I wasnt because my solicitor advised me that I would be found guilty regardless ( my word against 3 of them ) and the punishment would be less if I didnt contest it.
All that because I tried to run from a stop & search due to having blim of weed and couple of trips in my wallet
Do NOT take the prospect of arrest or prosecution lightly, even if the law you break is a petty one like possession it still has long lasting consequences
@Mezz 531648 wrote:
Getting arrested is not the problem, getting charged & convicted is, it effects the rest of your life. My juvenile record ( which is meant to be sealed & confidential ) was the reason I didnt get a job I applied for in the MoD when I was 18, my whole life might have been different without one silly mistake.
Adult criminal records are open for all to see and many employers do CRB checks
On the ‘free Kicking’, you might think thats a joke but it’s not, I was assaulted by a police officer when arrested, of course I made a complaint afterwards, even had bruises from it but two other officers lied and said my injuries were from resisting arrest ( like I could really resist as a skinny 15yo against 3 huge trained adults in body armour ) and my complaint was not only dismissed but I was also charged with assault myself for an accidental collision which they claimed was a headbutt, I pleaded guilty even though I wasnt because my solicitor advised me that I would be found guilty regardless ( my word against 3 of them ) and the punishment would be less if I didnt contest it.
All that because I tried to run from a stop & search due to having blim of weed and couple of trips in my wallet
Do NOT take the prospect of arrest or prosecution lightly, even if the law you break is a petty one like possession it still has long lasting consequences
Actually I meant exactly what I posted. When I said “free kicking” I meant FREE KICKING, from A GROUP, and I posted from experience. So don’t give me the sob story.
Stick with “No comment”, DON’T SIGN ANYTHING, and after 36 hours they HAVE TO LET YOU GO. They won’t bother getting evidence, 95% of detainees cop to the charge on interview.
And fuck the employers. They just want sheep to order around. If you want to be a sheep, get a master. Or be your own master.
@Pat McDonald 531649 wrote:
Actually I meant exactly what I posted. When I said “free kicking” I meant FREE KICKING, from A GROUP, and I posted from experience. So don’t give me the sob story.
Stick with “No comment”, DON’T SIGN ANYTHING, and after 36 hours they HAVE TO LET YOU GO. They won’t bother getting evidence, 95% of detainees cop to the charge on interview.
And fuck the employers. They just want sheep to order around. If you want to be a sheep, get a master. Or be your own master.
Not a sob story mate, a warning to others not to take the prospect of this happening to them lightly & be aware of the potential consequences
If your also speaking from experience I would think you would think you would also like to warn people
As for the ‘No Comment’ thing, Im sure that works in some cases, but when caught red handed ( like being in possession of drugs when arrested ) it really makes no difference, personally I made up some BS story about where I got the weed & trips from so it at least appeared I was cooperating without grassing anyone.
And ‘Fuck employers’ really ? Well fine if your wealthy or self employed, or happy doing menial jobs that dont bother with the expense of checks, but if you want a decent job with a decent salary, or a specific career thats very short sighted
Where i work they do enhanced CRB’s,
even if you were only cautioned at age 15, they show
my friend forgot to mention a caution aged 16-7 for TAWOCing, (taking away without consent) when pissed up they took a little rowing boat for a jolly, nearly cost her her job, not for the caution but because she’d ‘lied’ on the application form. (she hadnt lied, she just didnt think a caution aged 16-7 would be important when aged 47)
so I think it is wise advise Mezz,
and I also agree, if you WANT to work and HAVE to work, (like many of us do!!)
its worth thinking about long term consequences.
@barrettone 531641 wrote:
I agree and I never put any information in public that reveals where I live or what I’m doing but a lot of people my age (especially since I’ve lived abroad for most of my life) use fb to communicate with each other because it’s more convenient for them than using a different service. When you don’t want to fall out of touch with certain people it becomes a “necessary evil.” The thing that bothers me is that they can monitor chats so even if you know you can trust the person you’re speaking to, someone else is watching.
[/quote]that is a necessary evil of any form of international telecommunication and the more you try to encrypt/obscure the traffic, the more folk get curious.
TBH I think the wider point Evgeny is trying to make (and I’m especially glad he is doing so to the mostly idealistic liberal audience of the Grauniad) is that especially people who have grown up with the Internet in a resource rich world have got into a false sense of security that the Internet can work miracles and is immune to scrutiny from nations states government and law enforcement or that these agencies are “one step behind”.
At the same time there is not the need for elaborate cold war style undercover ops as the “hive mind” is willingly encouraging people to provide their big data for scrutiny by both corporates and governments, and that other tolerated distractions such as much mass entertaintment dangled as a carrot encourages this.
Watch his RSAnimate with the cartoon mice,cats and birds, and all this becomes clearer.
@Pat McDonald 531649 wrote:
Actually I meant exactly what I posted. When I said “free kicking” I meant FREE KICKING, from A GROUP, and I posted from experience. So don’t give me the sob story.
Stick with “No comment”, DON’T SIGN ANYTHING, and after 36 hours they HAVE TO LET YOU GO. They won’t bother getting evidence, 95% of detainees cop to the charge on interview.
And fuck the employers. They just want sheep to order around. If you want to be a sheep, get a master. Or be your own master.
My god the mans a lawyer now too! is there anything you cant turn your hand to? first an expert on pharmaceutics and now law! and there was me thinking law was a complex thing that required some kind of training and all along all you have to do is say no comment and get a kicking.
Nice little tip to about employers to, have you previous experience working directly with shepherds then?
I really hope your drunk and having a bad day.
with all the cuts an that i kinda imagine one btec pc in a office on his own…….. tracking
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