Party Vibe

if people in England get their drugs from good sources they do not get contaminated pills.

your country and the drugs culture there encourages users to test the pills more, so dealers would find bad pills are hard to sell (perhaps they end up over here!).

Set and setting is important too.

Your friend was enjoying their holiday, and what was probably a fun environment at a rave or club with less anger and paranoia, so might not have been so critical about quality of pills.

All that said, I have also read about contaminated pills in NL, with the same bad stuff we get here) I am learning Dutch at the moment so try to read a bit of Dutch news every day…)

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also helps when they come from slightly older people who genuinely enjoy raves/music and don’t use drug dealing as their main income source both for security reasons and peace of mind, as opposed to wannabe plastic gangsters…

I agree – another thing what confuses many is the crap atmosphere at many of todays raves, they don’t expect to be totally happy and loved up (some even think its “gay” to be in that state :you_crazy), just on edge and angry.

For instance I used to go to the Carribean Club raves in Ipswich and they could be really good but there was always that undercurrent of anger, jealousy and a a fair few fights and stuff getting robbed – I also saw that at outdoor raves too since about 2005 (both in SE England where I then lived and round here in EA since 2006) then there’s all this fuckery like a friend of mine spending hours building 6 1850s only to have them robbed by some other so-called ravers who stalked our local crew to their lockup :rant:

although the 90s/early 2000s scene wasn’t perfect, but there was definitely less of this. Also a bit more empathy with others, for instance people cleared up after a rave not because they were frightened of feds locking it off/seizing their rig but they genuinely didn’t want to fuck up the beautiful surroundings they had been partying in…

@potholebill 416082 wrote:

one thing I have noticed is the use of ket has really took over from exstacy, I never heard of anyone doing ket in the 90s. Seems now the kids just want to get completely ducked to the state they are a unable to walk. I go to a rave to dance and hear the music not be in a k hole on the floor. [/quote]

ket was used in the 90s (I lived in Reading, SE ENgland then) but was never as popular for parties, more for smaller sessions of folk in squats etc..

actually it was falling out of favour by 2008/09 and replaced by mephedrone, but that stuff can create as much of a paranoid or even angry buzz as a happy one.

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I partied from 94 to 02ish and have started again quite recently and so much has changed in the time from then till now . I hope ecstasy makes a comeback in a big way and the parties become happy smiley places once more.

there’s actually still a lot of good drugs about, its more peoples attitudes what have to change. I think they are with some younger people but they now have a uphill struggle finding venues as folk are stubborn here and won’t forgive and forget previous excesses..