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  • boothy;224943 wrote:
    i dont see what the point of destroying it is. surely some youth charity would have accepted it, or been sold to somewhere with a license etc.

    the cops actually offered it to charity organisations but they didn’t want it :you_crazy

    bear in mind though that there are probably people here what would try to rob it back from the youth club and break a few windows for good measure, or if they saw it in use at a licensed club would target that club for “working with the feds”, and I don’t even mean the original owners of the kit but angry youths taking matters into their own hands..

    Don’t be fooled by them offering it to charity, I run a charity youth project and we are all linked to a network of bulletins about things but the problem is that offers aren’t usually realistic i.e you aren’t given time to collect stuff or there are stringent conditions. Most charities are after money so the police know we would sell them and hence the reason they destroyed them.
    As for the rights and wrongs of destroying the equipment, hate to be a cynic but my experience of police in pounding things is that when you get them back there usually been trashed already.

    welly;224953 wrote:
    Don’t be fooled by them offering it to charity, I run a charity youth project and we are all linked to a network of bulletins about things but the problem is that offers aren’t usually realistic i.e you aren’t given time to collect stuff or there are stringent conditions. Most charities are after money so the police know we would sell them and hence the reason they destroyed them.

    I expected there would be conditions against its resale, as the cops aren’t daft either, they know a fair few people involved in the rave scene tend to work for such charities and the stuff would thus have found its way back to the party network. Also for aforementioned reasons it could be a “security risk” for charitys what took it…

    also round here the youth projects often deal with the effects of problematic drug use and they are seeing youths and families suffering (plus they are backed by conservative christian types) so why would they want to encourage this culture?

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    As for the rights and wrongs of destroying the equipment, hate to be a cynic but my experience of police in pounding things is that when you get them back there usually been trashed already.

    as far as they (and the rest of the public) are concerned that kit was bought with drugs money (whether or not this is strictly true) and used for criminal purposes. There are plenty of farmers and locals who would have trashed it given half a chance -so many locals complain that they can’t themselves go in mob handed to stop raves (although it woudl be unsafe for them to do so as ravers would fight back and locals don’t have the training that OB do – I expect people would get seriously hurt or even killed).

    This is also an area where ravers have trashed farms and industrial property (often through stupidity but there is sometimes an element of malice in this) and police cars (often as reprisals for being nicked for drugs dealing) so its simply seen as a tit for tat action.

    If that was my sound system i’d go down to that scrap yard and errr smash up there scrap, that’ll learn em

    @Southcaver 224963 wrote:

    If that was my sound system i’d go down to that scrap yard and errr smash up there scrap, that’ll learn em

    Haha! :bigsmile:

    binge;224925 wrote:
    Mental note- start up a charity:

    ‘Speakers and Amps for Underprivilaged Kids in Africas’

    SAUKA!

    That was a joke dude.

    “Oh, really, do you want to donate £30,000 worth of equipment to my charity ossiffer? Well, if you insist!”

    binge;225035 wrote:
    That was a joke dude.

    I guessed as such but many a true word is said in jest (I have some experience of how the EA voluntary sector works as they work closely with my own employers)

    TBH I did raise a chuckle at Southcavers comments and nearly posted a “naaarfolk” style joke in response…

    but had it been your rig (even in others hands) or belonging to anyone else what posts / lurks on here (and whose to say it doesn’t?) I doubt people would be laughing and joking so much….

    The only consolation I can see is that this “kit and caboodle” was vastly overvalued (same as drugs are), but I know loads of better stuff has got taken off certain people and I can sadly see that sharing the same fate

    there is a big emotional fallout every time a party gets busted in this manner and although some crews do bring it on themselves a lot of less dysfunctional crews have also been caught up in the recent zero tolerance policy

    in some cases its not just a load of faceless electronic equipment what is being destroyed but peoples long term friendships…

    also I’ve been informed by certain reliable local sources (not cops but people who used to do parties) that the OB in both counties are even preparing (doing riot training etc) to have to shut down or disperse even a legal event if it kicks off due to feelings running high at the moment, they know full well what they have done won’t win them any popularity contests…

    That’s just sad! 😥

    @General Lighting 224949 wrote:

    the cops actually offered it to charity organisations but they didn’t want it :you_crazy

    not very widely

    checkled with youth work collegues in that area…. no one heard anything about it

    globalloon;225986 wrote:
    not very widely

    checkled with youth work collegues in that area…. no one heard anything about it

    knowing cops round here they’d only offer it to certain organisations or even people they know wouldn’t want it (like OAP’s groups) just so they could reinforce the anti-rave argument. There would doubtless have been a lot of cultural resistance to letting anyone who may be prepared to use it for a music event anywhere in the East (even the legal ones), it would be seen tantamount to giving stuff back to the criminals without punishment!

    From reading a number of documents released under FOI released by cops (as well as Drugs Action Teams involvving NHS and Council), its clear that they consider both illegal raves and club-based underground dance music events to be two sides of the same coin, and a problem some are dissapointed wasn’t “cured” back in the 1990s..

    That statement and actions are only going to be a PR exercise anyway because the cops are now trying to use the eco argument against raves, clearly destroying a load of serviceable sound equipment that some kids in a Chinese sweatshop slaved to put together and then was shipped hundreds of miles to Felixstowe isn’t very eco-friendly even if it “enforces the law”.

    TBH the antis (and the locals of breckland/SW Norfolk) have probably been waiting for this moment for years, as the problem with badly run raves was festering about 5 years ago long before I lived anwwhere near this place, I remember Biotech, Frij and some others posting a fair few “friendly warnings” what simply got ignored by the younger lot..

    However, making that ill-thought out statement about using the wood chips for the power station (there is already one in Thetford) and the false eco-arguments (parties may be a nuisance and can cause some damage but are not an ecological disaster, no more than farming) is a perfect way to turn youths against positive envronmental work..

    – incidentaly there was a local (in SE England) calling for a rig to be crushed recently after she had been woken up by a party..

    ‘Rubbish!’ :laugh_at:

    elretardo87;224920 wrote:
    To be honest you have to be a right spastic to get your rig actually crushed. So they probably deserved it. I mean I think its a shame to waste sound equipment but for it to have reached teh state where the kit needs destroyed whoever owned the rig was probably just fucking things up for the rest of us.

    An you must be some sort of Thick Cunt, that was my rig being destroyed, we have been partying norfolk for 4 years now and never had any trouble with the ob, we always did as they asked, fucked off when told to and cleared up. We had the equipment destroyed because of the location, although having only 1 complaint from the farmer that location had been used many a time before, it was thought to be a safe venue. We actually got our rigs away from the location but the police where waiting 100 yards from my house and seized the equipment and arrested us when we arrived home. 1 of our crew took the wrap for everything, he got fined 2700 quid and we lost about 5 grands worth of rig, van, generators, decks, lighting etc, he also got banned from un-licensed musical events in the UK for 2 years. They couldn’t give the equipment away to charities for re-sale as it is not PAT tested and therefore cannot be re-sold. We still have some rig left and from now on our doing only legalish events in the uk, we are headin to portugal in august to the boom festival and taking a small rig for a day or 2 to the boom off festival.

    MessyM2k5;227156 wrote:
    An you must be some sort of Thick Cunt, that was my rig being destroyed, we have been partying norfolk for 4 years now and never had any trouble with the ob, we always did as they asked, fucked off when told to and cleared up. We had the equipment destroyed because of the location, although having only 1 complaint from the farmer that location had been used many a time before, it was thought to be a safe venue. We actually got our rigs away from the location but the police where waiting 100 yards from my house and seized the equipment and arrested us when we arrived home. 1 of our crew took the wrap for everything, he got fined 2700 quid and we lost about 5 grands worth of rig, van, generators, decks, lighting etc, he also got banned from un-licensed musical events in the UK for 2 years. They couldn’t give the equipment away to charities for re-sale as it is not PAT tested and therefore cannot be re-sold. We still have some rig left and from now on our doing only legalish events in the uk, we are headin to portugal in august to the boom festival and taking a small rig for a day or 2 to the boom off festival.

    I’d be interested to know who this was. Bloody shame dude. If you’re up for a PM I may very well know you….. but if not no worries.

    Gutted to hear it, things are grim right now.

    @MessyM2k5 227156 wrote:

    that location had been used many a time before

    That might have been part of the problem mate, especially if it was the land of the farmer who had complained (and prob not for the first time)

    Sorry to hear about your troubles though.

    That-picture-made-me-feel-sick:yakk:

    Ma-mates-brother-went-to-one-near-the-seaside-(I-think-it-were-in-Wales)
    and-apparently-the-coppers-got-there,threw-the-rig-over-the-edge-of-a-
    cliff-and-then-just-left-again!

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