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  • bbc.co.uk wrote:
    A 17-year-old pregnant Irish girl is appearing in the High Court in Dublin to press for the right to travel to Britain for an abortion.

    Miss D was informed last month that her foetus has anencephaly, a condition which means that a large part of the brain and skull is missing.

    Babies with anencephaly live a maximum of just three days after birth.


    A psychiatrist appointed by the HSE said that the teenager was distraught at the diagnosis, but not suicidal, and therefore did not meet the criteria for being allowed a termination.

    Eoghan Fitzsimons told the court that police had responded to a request by the Health Service Executive (HSE) to prevent her leaving the country, saying they could not and would not do so without a court order.


    Abortion is illegal in Ireland except where the mother’s life is threatened by a medical condition or suicide.

    Mr Fitzsimons said it was inhumane to expect the girl to carry the foetus for the full nine months only for it to die.

    the full report is here:

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/6618911.stm

    I never realised that they could get the police to stop you leaving the country to have a medical procedure done on your own body at your own choice :you_crazy

    surely this is against EU human rights laws?

    is this the massive influence of catholicism and the pope condemning contraception and abortion and all that, that has led to these laws? cos ireland is real catholic innit….

    if so, i can just say how much i hate organised religion… personal belief is one thing, but corrupt facist backward vatican cunts as well as other religions are so outdate it’s ridiculous!

    n it should be against human rights laws imo…

    some background as perceived by the Irish Family Planning Association:

    http://www.ifpa.ie/abortion/hist.html

    I was wondering that if your were a foreign national who became pregnant while living in Eire and decided to have a termination and somebody objected to it if they could still apply to stop you leaving for your home country? Im just wondering from a legal point.

    I bet the whole Catholic doctrine on abortion only came in the industrial age. It might be worth researching it, if there are any surviving documents. It wouldn’t surprise me if the original doctrine didn’t even mention abortion.

    Personally, l would be against abortion after the spinal cord forms (4 month stage). I think UK law also outlaws abortion after the 4 month stage. I’m sure there are exceptions e.g. if there’s some serious complication, something horrific that would prompt the doctors to intervene.

    Actually the UK limit is 6 months. I think all abortions are dangerous, and the longer the lady leaves it the more risky and heavy the effects will be, so even 6 months, though legal, would be something that needs a lot of thought.

    The UK’s abortion law

    Abortion is legal in the UK up to the 24th week of pregnancy. However, if there is a substantial risk to the woman’s life or if there are foetal abnormalities there is no time limit.

    To comply with the 1967 Abortion Act, two doctors must give their consent, stating that to continue with the pregnancy would present a risk to the physical or mental health of the woman or her existing children.

    However, the 1967 Act does not extend to Northern Ireland, where abortion is still illegal.

    Some interesting reading around the subject:

    the world’s abortion laws
    http://www.reproductiverights.org/pub_fac_abortion_laws.html

    abortion law and politics today [Ireland and abortion]
    http://www.prochoiceforum.org.uk/ireland2.asp

    The Times on this story; the comments by reader’s on the story are worth reading..
    http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/europe/article1744495.ece
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    that link is broken mate, it has duplicate “http://” in it i think. interestin reads though raaa

    Thanks for that Raj its hard to believe that in this day and age that this is still like it is Im not pro abortion and Im not against it but I am pro choice and if that person makes that choice to have one for what ever reason then that is there call as its there body,I personaly dont believe abortion should be used as a form of contraception thoe as you should of really have taken preventive measures before hand but if you do end up pregnant and want to terminate its still your call.

    Raj wrote:
    Some interesting reading around the subject:

    the world’s abortion laws
    http://www.reproductiverights.org/pub_fac_abortion_laws.html

    abortion law and politics today [Ireland and abortion]
    http://www.prochoiceforum.org.uk/ireland2.asp

    The Times on this story; the comments by reader’s on the story are worth reading…
    [URL=”http://http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/europe/article1744495.ece”%5Dhttp://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/europe/article1744495.ece%5B/URL%5D

    boothy wrote:
    that link is broken mate, it has duplicate “http://” in it i think. interestin reads though raaa

    fixed the link – thanks Boothy:wink:

    bbc.co.uk wrote:
    An Irish teenager has won a High Court battle in Dublin to be allowed to visit Britain for an abortion.

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/6639673.stm

    Good to see she won her right to have her abortion.

    Totally, she said she wasn’t suicidal so they wouldn’t allow her to have it.. how did she know that once she had had the baby and it died that she wouldn’t have felt that way…

    The easy thing would’ve been to say no no i do feel suicidal.. but i’m glad she has won the case…

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