Hi everyone im new here!
Been reading party vibe on and off for about a year now and finally decided to post.
When I was growing up in Reading most people i knew in the party scene where into K. I started taking it about 3 years ago the last year and a half were quite bad for my K use sometimes i was doing up to 4 – 5 grams daily. I have now moved from Reading and stopped taking K but I have to go for a piss a lot more regularly now then before been a K head.
Does anyone know from personal experience if it is possible to get a better bladder after K from personal use or online sources? And does anyone know anything which is good for the bladder which i could use to dull the abdominal pains I sometimes get?:wink:
Get checked out by a Dr first of all
For a ket bladder try taking this : bioforce solidago which helps your kidneys etc to recover
What has happened to your bladder is that the k has attacked the collagen in your body and this makes your bladder less elastic. Stay off the k or it will get worse. Eat a healthy diet and make sure you eat sweets which contain animal gelatine as this will help the collagen to recover a bit. If you smoke cigarettes now is a good time to quit as this also ages your connective tissue :/
not sure what to suggest for the abdominal pains – maybe someone else can help you with those
Buscopan is good for cramps (its used for IBS and opiate withdrawals)
and brought over the counter
From what little I know of K – yes it can be permenant and I’ve heard of people having to have bladder reconstruction surgey etc
Go and speak to your GP, it will be in confidence – but they will be able to refer you to a urologist who will be able to assess you and what (if anything) they can do / prescribe
personally i’ve had major cramps quite a few times yet i’ve never pissed blood or had any bad bladder issues, my bladder is weaker but a month off the k and it feels a lot better. i think there is a line where you do fuck your bladder though.
there is a medicine which helps rebuild the bladder but i cannot remember it, think it’s something like M and some other capital letters. some other guys on here know of it because they actually take it.
I’ve gone as low as you can get with K and my bladder is fine, and I no longer use the stuff. The human body can handle most things you throw at it, lay off the k, it will get better 🙂
Cheers for all the advice guys! Stopped with the k its to good for me to do sensibly. Saw a doctor today thinks i could have a water infection will know soon.
Peace
so does anyone know wot this is tht starts with a m tht might help with th bladder?
I unfortunately know someone whose bladder burst as a result of extreme K usage…. it caused fluid on the brain…. they were put into a coma to try and relieve the pressure etc… but when they were brought out of the coma the burst bladder and fluid on the brain had caused air in his veins and as a result he died….
Unfortunately lots of people think it was bringing him out of the coma that killed him…. they don’t look back to what caused that to happen in the first place….
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if you have problems with your blader you should stop drinking cola and coffee
You have to drink about 8 cups of coffee before it starts having a diuretic effect on you….
The good news is no, the damage isn’t permanent. I came stopped doing it 2 years ago in May. For the last 6 months i was on it I was doing 12 bottles a day and had to go to the loo every 20 minutes, i was also taking anti acid tablets because i had constant stomach cramps. a month after i stopped i was able to go 1 hour without going to the toilet but 4 months later i was still going every 2 hours and the pain was still horrific. my doctor refereed me to southmead hospital where in december that year i had my bladder stretched from 200cl to 350cl- i was then able to last 3-4 hours without going to the loo. however the pain was still constant, the only time i had relief was up to 30 minutes after i want to the toilet. 3 months later in march a specialist at the hospital told me to change my diet, basically i had to make my urine as alkaline as possible, so no meat- because it breaks down to amino acids, no citrus, no caffeine, no soda drinks etc and honestly the improvement was amazing sometimes up to 5 hours without going to the loo and by September the pain was much more bearable, as long as i was drinking loads of water. then september that year they stretched my bladder again from 350cl to 500cl and after that opp i was able to go 9-10 hours. i still had bladder cramps if i didn’t drink a lot of water, but they soon went if i downed a pint of water. by march this year- so almost 2 years later im happy to say i have made a complete recovery, my dies is completely back to the way it use to be and i havnt had any cramps for a good few months. a few things to remember- i was drinking 4 liters of water a day and when i needed the loo i held off for as long as possible -which stretched my bladder. also i wonder if the surgeons had met me in march if they would have said my bladder was beyond repair, there was always blood in my urine and honestly i could only hold about 20cl.
even a year ago i doubled if i would make a full recovery, at the time it seamed impossible! be sure to put pressure on your doctor for the bladder distention opp- with all the nhs cuts- i had to fight for my second opp. i hope this helps
Ketamine + gold top milk = keeley hazel giving you a it want.
Most ketamine bladder damage is caused by the ketamine hydrocloride metabolites irritating the lining of the bladder, this is protected by a mucus lining, some people have better lining than others and are so more resilient to damage, if you take regular breaks the mucus will replenish itself = protection.
If you are a chronic user (you use every day or most days) you will erode the protective lining and the ketamine will start to irritate the bladder walls. this can cause scarring= loss of elasticity, if you continue to use the irritation can become severe and cause bleeding (a bit like ulcers in the stomach) the more scarred or irritated the less elastic the bladder is = can hold less piss = need to pee more.
if the damage is not too severe it can heal, your bladder can also develop elasticity with exercise.
rest may sort the problem out, if the problem is very severe they can surgically take tissue from other parts of the body and replace the bladder with it, this is obviously not fun, also you could get infections which can cause even worse problems or even kill you.
If the bladder is not working urine can back up (like a dam) this can cause serious problems with the kidneys, this is very very fucking painful and will have you rushing to hospital.
doctors may think you have a venereal disease or a urinary infection, many doctors do not know about the effects of ketamine, there are a few specialists (London and Bristol to name two services)
cramps are caused by inflamation of the bile duck, the gallbladder process ketamine and the bile duck can become irritated and swell = cramps, it does not matter if you spit the drip, ketamine in your blood stream is processed through the gall bladder, spitting just means you waste some of the K (it goes into your system from your stomach just the same as from your nose)
if you have had a long break and things are not getting better then I would suggest seeing a doctor
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