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@Dr Bunsen 561440 wrote:
Maybe the question should have been is rave dead in your area?
Not in my area, its just stuck in a loop of the same rigs, the same people, the same locations, the same music…..It’s the main reason I dislike raving and don’t go. To be fair I can’t stand hard trance, its dull and monotonous with no real hammers or hooks, just ‘wump wump wump’ for 5-8 minutes.
As someone totally new to the scene I might not know much about it, but it cant be dying. Like him or not but DJs like Skrillex are breathing life into a new generation of electronic music. I scroll through youtube a lot ant there are so many great aspiring DJs out there. And with technology exploding like it is its only safe to assume the music born from tech will rise with it. WE ARE THE FUTURE!!!
having said that, the scene in my area is pretty dead, if it exists at all.
@AntiPariah40k 561654 wrote:
As someone totally new to the scene I might not know much about it, but it cant be dying. Like him or not but DJs like Skrillex are breathing life into a new generation of electronic music. I scroll through youtube a lot ant there are so many great aspiring DJs out there. And with technology exploding like it is its only safe to assume the music born from tech will rise with it. WE ARE THE FUTURE!!!
having said that, the scene in my area is pretty dead, if it exists at all.
With social networking its easier to find said scene in the first place. Its not down to chance of meeting the right ‘circles’ anymore. You can simply follow artists you like and through those pages find all the events that would cater to your taste.
Whats a good way to find local DJs?
I’d try places like soundcloud; just done a search on all the radio stations in your area (as community stations often have an EDM show) but 90% of them are religious/sports, the first college station is just a bit of NPR nowadays, and the website of the second came up in Japanese (!) and appears to be a blog for either a nursing home or nursing agency.
(I don’t understand Japanese, but curiously it makes more sense if I use Google Translate to translate it into Dutch). In any case there did not appear to be a radio station there. it supposedly transmits on a frequency of 90.5 MHz and is associated with Whitman College.
I’ve linked the list here anyway in case one of these stations might have changed its format and play some EDM…
Most ‘big’ Djs in america tour, so most of them will have gigs in your area at some point anyway.
Like general lighting said – soundcloud.
Alternatively, you could build your own mini rig! have your own ‘VIP’ parties lol just sick on some mixes you like the sound of and ‘hav’ it large!’ I’ve always wanted to make my own mini rig, one that’ll fit in the boot (trunk) of a car and just be hooked up to either I truck battery or a small cc generator, about 1.5-2.5 bhp which should provide sufficient power and have a good level of fuel economy provided the qaulity of petrol you us is greater than 75RON (hard to find in america, as petrol is fuckin shocking over there), so if you can find shell optimax use that, as it won’t coke up the piston head and block the manifold with ‘dead’ carbon.
Showing too much of my enginnering side here lol
I don’t think we are dying we getting huge in Pennsylvania mostly due Penn State but it is awesome now
Like quite a few people here, I don’t think it is at all – it’s just changed.
I think the issue – and this happens all the time – is that when something changes, some of the people who were already involved don’t like the changes that happen. This is especially the case for people who’ve stopped being involved and then try to get back into it, but find out it’s not the same anymore. Whether it’s a scene, a specific club night/rave/festival, a genre, or even something unrelated like an online game… those are the people who start the cries of “it’s dying!”
Change is inevitable though. So don’t listen to what people are saying and let it ruin your experiences. Yes, there was a different but related scene before, and those people got to live through it. Now we have what we have – this is your time, so go out and enjoy it. 🙂 And when thing inevitably start to change, try to be open minded and roll with it. I think sometimes people are too busy being nostalgic about the “good old days” to go out and create new ones. Or at the very least when it happens, don’t complain and ruin things for the new crowd. 😉
@Gylfi Sigurðsson 561641 wrote:
To be fair I can’t stand hard trance, its dull and monotonous with no real hammers or hooks, just ‘wump wump wump’ for 5-8 minutes.
When you say “hard trance,” what sort of hard trance do you mean? It’s a pretty varied genre.
I just ask because I can’t stay psy trance for almost the same reason – it goes ‘dugga dugga dugga’ endlessly. But I *love* loads of hard trance (and other hard trance-influenced hard dance) precisely because it’s much more varied and interesting.
A lot of old hard trance was often pretty damned repetitive though. :s I tried listening to some older stuff again recently and couldn’t believe how little I like it now.
Yes it is changing and I think it used to be better back when I was younger.
People are not as friendly as they used to be and since it got so popular I think the whole experience has become watered down, especially with the death of the payphone.
Feel free to be jaded my friend.
The rave scene for sure isn’t dead, but it has evolved, like most things. The evolution has brought the good and the bad, but seek out the music you love and there will be somebody, somewhere putting on great events with quality music, whatever it takes.
If you’re looking for a rave scene in London check out Oval Space, they always have an amazing calendar of musical talent, they keep the rave ethos, but they’ve cleaned it up around the edges. There’s also the Tesla Projekt for the more underground, secret rave scene. What I love about these guys is their professionalism, the amazing mix of people they attract, and their group of talented DJs whilst keeping the rawness of the 90s rave scene
…and for quality melodic techno you have to check out Warm Up! (Self promotion, apologies!) Our mission is to bring top quality techno DJs to London in underground, atmospheric venues. We got sick of mainstream house taking over every club in London and quickly became bored by the generic sounds in most London clubs these days. In August we have Microtrauma, from amazing German label Traum, as well as a Dutch artist Hubert Kirchner who is one to keep an eye on for the future, coming to Crucifix Lane in August. And we’re supporting Extrawelt in Brixton too! A few weeks back we brought humble artist Applescal over to play in Hackney and we’ve many more raves in the pipeline! Come test us out on 22nd Aug, tickets are on RA!
I hope you find your soul on the raving dance floor soon! It’s surely out there, London has so much to offer once you dive through the wave of house drowning the scene at present! Good luck!
I wouldn’t complain about an “excess” of “mainstream” house events or any EDM event, even in London; your events are interesting and house may well be “mainstream” in other venues but I suspect the real reason for this is because folk from other towns in the East of England are travelling to London for a weekend out more often.
The cost of drinks, taxis and anything else in East Anglia now isn’t different from London and socialising in the capital can be less hassle and stress than attending a similar event in your home town play music above 120bpm and the event/punters are way more likely to be monitored by cops. you might also bump into people from work etc whilst under the influence (hassle even for younger folk in small towns/villages where gossip travels quickly, not everyone works in a hedonist friendly hipster IT startup…)
So there are lots of young professional people who live in or near somewhere like Ipswich or Colchester (cheaper and safer for day to day life) but work and/or party in London, a “long weekend” doesn’t look suspicious. The costs of putting on an EDM event in these East Anglian towns are now as much as doing so in the capital or greater. Local Councils can afford to refuse these events, they get enough money from the mainstream daytime economy. The risks of negative incidents are also far greater (people combine binge drinking with party drugs and the results are unpleasant).
In Ipswich the only venue hosting large EDM events is yet again up for sale and numerous other “townie” venues have closed (in some cases I’m glad to see the back of those as they were a clear source of trouble and annoyance in the area). London Liverpool Street is only 1.5 hours away by train (although its way expensive considering the short distance). TBH if I still lived in or nearer London and had more spare time with I’d check out both your event and these “mainstream” house nights..
@Mr_Balls 562026 wrote:
People are not as friendly as they used to be and since it got so popular I think the whole experience has become watered down, especially with the death of the payphone.
welcome 🙂 – although I get what you say in the first bit (the “EDM boom” in the USA looks to me more like they are trying to make a a supersized version of what happened across Europe in the late 1990s, and commercialise it with modern technology, already tried here and it went tits up within a few years) the music is still likely to remain popular long after the big events stop happening.
I’m not 100% sure about the second bit though, as in British English a payphone is this…
not safe to use for passing unlicensed rave locations – British Telecom was once government run so the cops know exactly where all the payphones are (this one is next to a large football (soccer) stadium in the middle of town) and they can easily get intercept warrants if they think they are being used for illegal purposes, some got hidden cameras installed if they got used by hard drugs dealers, they are also clearly not big enough to hold a rave inside….
seems like it…
@rookieriot 562238 wrote:
seems like it…
perhaps AZ is a more affluent middle class part of the USA? The USA EDM scene is no different to that in modern day Europe but on a larger scale. The authorities (who have a lot of data from NSA/FBI as well as less sinister statistics gathering organisations (local Councils, healthcare providers etc) seem to very carefully pick areas which are economically deprived, have a high proportion of young college students and minorities and faith group based teaching hospitals nearby (so that those who OD at raves provide a training resource for the hospitals) – exactly the same happens here in the UK and other North European countries.
Its all done by working out the cost and benefit of permitting the event; somewhere like Detroit already has serious drugs and crime problems so allowing a rave doesn’t add to them all that much and the Councils can get some money back from venue hire etc.
TBH with California “nearby” I suspect the events are also there though I understand its several hours travelling time and the cost of doing so isn’t cheap; and out of state vehicles often get searched….
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