Party Vibe

+1 raaa

I don’t think all of the early 90s was that much better – although people were “friendlier” it was false due to the effects of MDMA etc and when this wore off all the racial and gender tensions came back.

people forget that Castle Morton pissed off the rest of society so much the cops clamped down big time afterwards, and that Fantazia was organised for money and didn’t always deliver on its promises. Also there were a lot more real nasty gangsters closer to the raves due to the money to be made on pills…

the better times of raves came much more recently IMO from 1997-2001; when Tony Blair slacked off on drugs enforcement to get the youth vote and because he was too busy with millenium domes etc and the economy was booming so normal people didn’t care as much about raves.

also you can’t turn back the clock with regard to increased Police surveillance, and the backlash caused by badly organised illegal raves, particularly our area. People have actually had their farms/livelihoods trashed and the public purse has had to spend a lot on cleaning up Thetford Forest over the years.

This is why opening up to society is going to be difficult – why should people like farmers etc forgive and forget what happened when their land was invaded?

to be fair most 30 somethings here would jump at the chance to attend a well organised party where it wouldn’t be full of people spooned out on ketamine and not helping clear up

That said I have been to parties as recently as early 2007 when I thought I was back in my youth again (it was my birthday weekend, I so nearly told those girls from Thetford I was 23 rather than 35 :laugh_at:)

but by the time me and my mates got back to Ipswich we heard online that some ket-head had fallen from the big haystack and the Ambulance had to be deployed – none of which needed to happen. because the incident was so far out. the Police and to be fair many of the ravers had to carry the stretcher like they do in third world foreign countries!

This situation was repeated a fair few times at other parties that year, as well as loads of people getting ill from K and other drugs. By the Summer the cops (and NHS) had had enough and East Anglia was on zero tolerance.

The ball is in the younger crews’ court to see if they can salvage anything out of this…

there is a slim chance that a crew of younger people (16-21 or so) without significant drug problems or involvement in crime would be able to put on decent events, but they would have to overdeliver on any promises they made to wider society, make some compromises such as using TENS/getting permission to party places, and also stay together and as friends during all the boring/stressful bits (this being the most difficult)

are you planning on staying in EA as you reach your late teens/20s or going up to University in another area? (this is something to consider as a lot of crews are split due to this happening amongst their people)