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  • I really cant believe this….

    Whatever happened to personal responsibility ??

    – and taking such for our own choices – whether legal or not…..

    As adults it’s our choice what we put into our bodies –

    I personally think we need to live with the concequences if we know the risks (ie – who takes meth with out realising it may fuck you up ?)

    responces people?

    what do you guys think?

    Former meth addict sues dealer

    It’s about taking responsibility, she says

    Tessa Vanderhart, Staff

    The first time Sandy Bergen tried crystal meth, as a “vulnerable” 18-year-old, she became addicted.
    Three years later, Bergen is taking responsibility for her drug use by suing her former drug dealer.
    “I’ve taken responsibility, and now we’re turning it on him to take responsibility,” she said. “The justice system works very slowly, and this way I can have a voice in this. I can make him answer for his actions.”
    The resident of Biggar, Saskatchewan, and her family are involved in a lawsuit that will determine precisely who is responsible for Bergen’s overdose last spring.
    Bergen’s lawyer, Warren Smith of Busse Law firm, said that the civil case will substantiate that Sandy’s dealer was negligent, and sold the drugs with intent to inflict mental and physical harm.
    He compared the lawsuit to suing a toy company for negligence in manufacturing, or tobacco companies for intent to harm.
    In addition to recompensing the harms done to Bergen, Smith said that the case will also recoup social costs, such as the cost to the province of Saskatchewan for Bergen’s hospitalization.
    “There’s a reason why drugs are illegal: they’re illegal because they cause damage, damage that society already bears,” said Smith.
    Stuart Busse, of the same law firm, said that the lawsuit is based on the dealer’s actions being careless and for personal economic gain.
    Busse noted that Bergen is also suing the grandmother of the drug dealer, on the basis that she facilitated his actions.
    “This isn’t just where she went and bought drugs off the street — we’re a small town here, they went to school together,” said Busse. “He caught her in a vulnerable point . . . it isn’t just a voluntary purchase by her.”
    “They have all sorts of ways to manipulate you,” said Bergen. The most effective: addiction.
    “As an addict, I had a diminished capacity to make the right choice. I was a very sick person.”
    “Crystal meth makes your heart as hard as a rock,” she said.
    Before Bergen overdosed, she had been sober for two months, and had not taken meth for eight. In May 2004, she was due to testify in court, in regards to a sexual assault that she had been subjected to a year earlier. At this time, Bergen was again approached by the dealer who had first introduced her to the drug, and she finally gave in.
    “I knew it wouldn’t make anything better, but I decided to do it anyway,” she said. But almost immediately, she became violently ill.
    It felt like someone had “jabbed a pencil through my brain,” she said, and she began to vomit blood and turn blue.
    “It looked like I was dying — I actually was, but they didn’t know it at the time,” she said. She took the meth at 9 a.m., but didn’t make it to the hospital until 3 p.m.. Even then, it was hours before anyone realized that she was overdosing on crystal meth — she was too ashamed to tell the doctor, in case her father should find out.
    Finally, she collapsed. Bergen was in a coma for eleven days. Her body puffed up to three times its normal size, a lung collapsed, and 17 bags of IVs were put directly into her arteries, as her veins had all collapsed.
    “This drug just drags you down. I’m not supposed to be alive,” she said.
    The first time Bergen tried the drug, it was provided free of charge by Biggar’s only dealer; she was high for five days, ending up in Saskatoon. When she started to come down, and as she watched a mother high on methamphetamine while breastfeeding her child, she was horrified by how fast and how quickly she had sunk. Still, she said, she wanted more and very quickly became dependent on the drug.
    These are the experiences she shares to demonstrate the need for her to actively speak out and stop “enabling” the drug trade in her town.
    Although the family stands to lose money on the lawsuit — judgments are based on the resources of the parties involved — the family’s main concern is getting their message out.
    Bergen noted that the lawsuit may make it “uneconomical” for the defendant to continue to sell drugs in the town.
    Bergen’s parents are also involved in the lawsuit, suing both the drug dealer and his grandmother for the adverse reaction they had to their daughter’s overdose.
    Sandy’s father, Stan Bergen, said that his daughter was taken advantage of — and the dealer needs to be held accountable.
    “We have to hold these people accountable for what they’re doing, not just to my daughter, but to the community,” he said.
    “It’s not just about money: it’s about making these people responsible.”
    He called crystal meth “a blight on society,” noting that drugs are a huge problem in the northern and western parts of the country, on reserves in particular.
    “If you haven’t had anybody have a problem with it in your community, just wait.”
    While Health Canada does not have the data to reinforce or refute this, new measures to combat the production of crystal methamphetamine indicate that the government hopes to be more active in fighting the drug. Territorial governments, as well as the provincial governments of Manitoba and Saskatchewan, are making some cold medications, often used to prepare meth, available only over the counter.
    Due to the nature of the drug — crystal meth is very easy to prepare and uses household items like bleach and cold syrup — it is very difficult to determine how widely it is used. Carolyn Sexauer of Health Canada said that there is no indication that use is rising beyond the one per cent it is currently estimated at, but noted that the statistics available do not account for use among those who live on reserves or are homeless.
    Georgina Bergen, Sandy’s mother, noted that meth is a problem in all small towns — but in Biggar, things are improving.
    “The drugs in Biggar have dried up since we [launched] the lawsuit. It’s gotten a lot less safe to deal them here,” she said.
    Bergen said that Sandy never had very high self-esteem — “so I could see where she could fall victim to outside influences.”
    “I’ve seen her go from hell in a handbasket to somebody I can be proud of. I hate to say an overdose is a good thing, but in our case, it was.”

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    Unbelievable isnt it? :crazy:

    the worst part of it is I can’t see the meth heads taking that lying down

    although Canada is normally a quite chilled out country there are plenty of guns there (similar number to the USA apparently)

    when people in those sorts of areas (particularly rural areas) lose faith with the normal justice system they take matters into their own hands..

    personally i think this is silly, its like that guy who tried to sue ladbrookes for letting him bet too much it was his choice just like it was hers to buy meth, i don’t know about you but most things i did at that age were my choice and even though i fucked up quite alot i wouldnt blame ne1 else

    this is going to escalate into what could be a feud between two families lasting generations

    I hope the mounties or whatever their cops are out there are ready for the fallout

    I only found it online today but I think it may have happened around 2 – 3 years ago –

    she is now a youth worker and looks to be talking at addiction conferences etc –

    her web page (I’ve not read it by the way)

    http://www.methtoday.com/

    Yeah saw this a while ago… fecking stupid, notice how its in America where people sue each other for everything? :you_crazy

    starlaugh wrote:
    Yeah saw this a while ago… fecking stupid, notice how its in America where people sue each other for everything? :you_crazy

    yeh, I may sue my mum for giving birth to me :laugh_at: :laugh_at:

    Tank Girl wrote:
    yeh, I may sue my mum for giving birth to me :laugh_at: :laugh_at:

    that is a very good idea lol

    a work colleague said he saw this news report about metal theft

    some chap had thought he would steal a nice big bit of cable

    but it turned out to be energised to 33 000 volts :yakk:

    And now he doesn’t need to nick any cable to feed his habit, the NHS give him the morphine free for the burns…

    he claimed that he didn’t notice the warnings because he “couldn’t read and write”

    is this not clear enough? :you_crazy

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    I know of some one who was sitting on a hand rail
    (the type along side a wheelcahir ramp)

    fell backwards off it,

    didnt do any serious damage (maybe a bruised ego) and sued the local NHS trust where the ramp was situated,



    as there was no sign alerting them to the danger of sitting on the rail………:hopeless:

    the NHS trust settled out of court……..:you_crazy

    lunacy!!!!!

    Eh, it obviously sucks to wind up in the hospital from complications due to crystal myth but to claim that suing her drug dealer is ‘taking responsibility’ is ridiculous: its absolving herself of all responsibility for her freely made choices and shifting the blame onto someone else. I think articles only get away with talking like that because we have a culture that insists that its ‘irresponsible’ to take any kind of drugs, ever, (or for that matter, have casual sex, get drunk, stay out to late or otherwise have fun in any ways that make old people feel uncomfortable) which is patronizing. Suing someone over it (including the tobacco companies for that matter like they try in the states) is like a way of saying that people really are just children that need to be protected from themselves and aren’t responsible for what they do to themselves; it completely plays into cultural conservatives hands.

    @lorenetengoff 396820 wrote:

    Law and order are for our safety and security so they are supposed to be respected and followed.

    I’m gonna sue you for posting adverts on forums without permission of the website owner!

    @DaftFader 396822 wrote:

    I’m gonna sue you for posting adverts on forums without permission of the website owner!

    I’ve trashed it 😉

    @Tank Girl 396864 wrote:

    I’ve trashed it 😉

    :weee:

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