FYI:
Ketamine is mostly processed via the gall Bladder, stomach cramps are a result of the bile duck dilating and becoming inflamed, not swallowing the drip will have no effect, even injected K will pass through this route, cramps are a BAD sign and you should give it a rest if you can (get help if you can’t)
There is now no denying the evidence that ketamine is damaging to the bladder and urinary system (sometimes including the kidneys) however breaks between use do seem to allow the bladder time to recover its protective lining, cronic or daily use is NOT advised as research shows this will lead to bladder damage.
if you are using daily you will very probably develop helath problems, if you carry on using they will get worse.
look after yourself and take regular breaks:group_hug
@cliffchuff 362953 wrote:
FYI:
not swallowing the drip will have no effect
in my experience it makes all the difference (i’m coming from years of experience)
if u dont swallow the drip then theres nothing to go through the gall bladder. the powder goes into your blood stream via das conk
@CozMik 363117 wrote:
in my experience it makes all the difference (i’m coming from years of experience)
if u dont swallow the drip then theres nothing to go through the gall bladder. the powder goes into your blood stream via das conk
the gallbladder passes into the stomach not the other way round, ketamine passes into the gallbladder from the blood stream as the gallbladder process certian types of chemicals from the bloodstream.
the gallbladder releases chemicals into the stomach to break down fats, ketamine is passed with these chemicals through the bile duck causing the bile duckt to become inflamed
any experience you have to the contrary is simply coincidental (other than that when you take ketamine it goes through the gaulbladder causing the bile duct to inflame)
ketamine has absolutely no effect on the stomach, I got this first hand from specialists at UCL Hospital at a conference on ketamine with leading specialists from various fields (Including urologists and anesthetists)
sorry dude you are wrong.
actually about 40% of all insuffated material pass3es into the stomach and hence into the blood stream, this is why blood analysis shows two disticnt peaks when people sniff drugs (the first from materale that passes into the blood through the blood vessels in the nose the second through the drug that passes into the blood via the stomach) so by spitting the drip you are actually taking less of the drug (or wasting 40%) so spitting is actually a way to reduce your drug intake 🙂
its not very economical though and you might be better sniffing half the amount and not spitting for the same effect…
@cliffchuff 363300 wrote:
the gallbladder passes into the stomach not the other way round, ketamine passes into the gallbladder from the blood stream as the gallbladder process certian types of chemicals from the bloodstream.
the gallbladder releases chemicals into the stomach to break down fats, ketamine is passed with these chemicals through the bile duck causing the bile duckt to become inflamed
any experience you have to the contrary is simply coincidental (other than that when you take ketamine it goes through the gaulbladder causing the bile duct to inflame)
ketamine has absolutely no effect on the stomach, I got this first hand from specialists at UCL Hospital at a conference on ketamine with leading specialists from various fields (Including urologists and anesthetists)
sorry dude you are wrong.
it must jus be coincidence that the only time me and other people i know have gotton stomach cramps is when theyve swallowed the drip then lol.
anover example. john lilly used to inject ketamine 24/7, he never once suffered from a stomach cramp. your theory is bogus im afraid. dont believe everything your doc tells you.
@CozMik 363357 wrote:
it must jus be coincidence that the only time me and other people i know have gotton stomach cramps is when theyve swallowed the drip then lol.
anover example. john lilly used to inject ketamine 24/7, he never once suffered from a stomach cramp. your theory is bogus im afraid. dont believe everything your doc tells you.
thinking your personal subjective experiences are more valid than the latest scientific research…fail. It wasn’t his doc, it was a medical conference covering the latest research into Ketamine was it not? Unless he is mistaken about what he was told, but he seems to know the score.
If your injecting 24/7 your probably not going to experience many pain sensations? one mans personal experience is really not how science works? I could go on.
Evidence based scientific research ftw, old wives tails fail!
point gladly taken. i will continue to spit out my drip though.
@CozMik 363389 wrote:
point gladly taken. i will continue to spit out my drip though.
cant hurt, I know lots of people who do swear by it *shrugs* If only they would do more bloody research and make the results more wildly known it could help all the people who indulge in such things.
most people i know that sniff k spit there drip out, its far too coincidental that the ones who dont are the ones who now suffer from not only stomach cramps but pissing pains n all. from what research ive done/evidence ive seen. id say it makes alot of sense to spit the drip out!
@CozMik 363392 wrote:
most people i know that sniff k spit there drip out, its far too coincidental that the ones who dont are the ones who now suffer from not only stomach cramps but pissing pains n all. from what research ive done/evidence ive seen. id say it makes alot of sense to spit the drip out!
perhaps it does make a difference if there are enough people you know to compare with, but it could be for example that those who spit out the drip are more worried about damage and use less where as those who don’t use more and are more reckless?
*shrugs* Glad I dont go near the stuff anymore seen it do too much damage, even to people who spit.
ive totally got gastroesophageal inflammation from swallowing too much drip, confirmed by a doctor. Swallowing a large amount of any salt will agitate the digestive tract same goes for ketamine.
he now would like to know if you could mix the crystals with some water and then leave it out to dry slowly overnight. will this work?
thanks spike
@Spike! 363604 wrote:
he now would like to know if you could mix the crystals with some water and then leave it out to dry slowly overnight. will this work?
thanks spike
yes this will work..
why doesnt he just cook it slowly over a low heat?
@Tek Offensive 362213 wrote:
mix with water, only enought to dissolve, and then boil off the water in a small clean pan. do it slowly and be careful not to dry it out too much and burn it
The method I have seen most often,
Put crystal K in small clean pan, add boiling water from kettle until K has dissolved and then place on a hob until the water has evaporated.
I have never experienced it burning but have heard of it happening so it must be possible…
I know of someone who uses a pan that is pretty small and when they cook a 1/4 in it and its almost done you hear a loud pop sound a a huge biscuit of K comes out lol
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