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  • Just being nosey, as I cant help you in the slightest,
    but what made you decide to do this ? (why Ketamine?)
    and do you have to go through an ethics commity? as I’m guessing K is usually obtained illegally

    i would take part but i too live in scotland :groucho: :groucho: :groucho:

    so not much use to you either…

    :bounce_fl:bounce_fl:bounce_fl:bounce_fl:bounce_fl

    what kind of assurances of confidentiality can you offer to those who take part?

    ie will you record their names, addresses etc or how will you identify them in the project?
    [think this may be a part of the caution being shown WRT participation]

    [ hey guys- if i am wrong could you all shed some light on why you are not willing to take part? just so Justin knows what the sticking point is:wink:]

    General Lighting wrote:
    TBH I think this is understandable. Despite your assurances a lot of people will be cagey or frightened not so much of the authorities but by the fact that the results or the experience may not be what they want to hear (i.e it is showing them that the use of drugs may actually be adversely affecting their lives).

    People walk away from bad news and potentially unpleasant experiences a lot of the time.

    I am sure the test is done by fairly friendly and ethical people; and is not a competitive exam or something that could get you in trouble but even I would find it a bit intimidating and I am by no means a regular K user. That said if I still lived in London I would probably do the test.

    I think your research is a very good idea but I can also see why people are resistant. many would think whatever results you find they will still be spun and used to justify prohibition and the nanny state
    .
    I take it you have tried the obvious places to put up flyers asking for test subjects like student union bars, drop in centres etc or even around facilities of the UCL teaching hospital?

    Yes, I guess you’re right – perhaps people are a bit suspicious about it all.

    There is an information sheet and consent form which tells you more about the study, that it is confidential, that you can ask me questions (and I’ll do my best to answer them!), and that you can change your mind at any point and I will not ask you why, or pressure you to continue.

    If someone takes part they will spend most of their time alternating between computer based tasks (which generally ask you to respond to words on the screen) and questionnaires (which are asking you about your personal experiences). There is also a drug history, so that we can match people with similar levels of drug use. And a urine sample so we objectively test for any recent drug use – one reason for this is to make sure that people who are in the non-ketamine drug group don’t have any traces of ketamine in their system. There is nothing in the study that is meant to be stressful, and nothing that is harmful.

    When we have finished you won’t receive any results related to you specifically. When I have finished collecting all of the data it will be analysed together, so that the findings refer to the groups of people, not to a particular individual. (All data is anonymous, so there is no way that anyone can find out that a particular person has taken part in the study from reading a paper about it). Once my thesis has been completed it is likely I will be writing up the results for publication- again, all data is anonymous. I will then be in a position to post some information about the results on the websites that have allowed me to discuss the project.

    The study is being funded by the Sub-Department of Clinical Health Psychology, UCL; the UCL Graduate School, and the University of London – the conclusions drawn will not be influenced by, or representative of these funding bodies. I know that 15 pounds (money, not weight! My keyboard is from Australia which is why I can’t use the pound sign!) isn’t much, but unfortunately funding is limited. When people have taken part in previous studies and been paid more, it is likely that they were much larger studies which were being run over a longer period of time, have more staff and had been able to apply for more funding. Believe it or not, being able to pay 15 pounds is a lot more than other people on my course – I did well getting funding!!!

    I hope this goes some way in reassuring people – however, ask me any questions and I’ll try and answer them…

    Thanks,

    Justin

    Tank Girl wrote:
    Just being nosey, as I cant help you in the slightest,
    but what made you decide to do this ? (why Ketamine?)
    and do you have to go through an ethics commity? as I’m guessing K is usually obtained illegally

    Yes, this study has been approved by the UCL Research Ethics Committee.

    Why ketamine? Because people use drugs and it is worth knowing what the effects might be. There is quite a bit of research on the effects of a single does of ketamine, but there isn’t much research on the effects of longer term use…

    raj wrote:
    :bounce_fl:bounce_fl:bounce_fl:bounce_fl:bounce_fl

    what kind of assurances of confidentiality can you offer to those who take part?

    ie will you record their names, addresses etc or how will you identify them in the project?
    [think this may be a part of the caution being shown WRT participation]

    [ hey guys- if i am wrong could you all shed some light on why you are not willing to take part? just so Justin knows what the sticking point is:wink:]

    Hello!

    When people decide to take part they will be asked to read the information sheet and sign the consent form. On the consent form they will be asked to write their name and signature. On this form I will also write their participant code. This sheet is the only way that a name can be linked to data, and it will be locked away in an office at UCL and will be kept separately to all other questionnaires. We have to keep the consent form confidential to abide by ethical regulations. In the database you will only be identified by the participant code. Below is a passage from the information sheet:

    “CONFIDENTIALITY

    Any information collected about you will be held in accordance with the 1998 Data Protection Act. All the information that is collected about you during the course of the research will be kept strictly confidential. Your results will have your name and any other details about you removed first so that you cannot be recognized from them.”

    To receive payment from me you have to sign a form giving your name and address. This form is passed to finances so that I can get reimbursed. This form gives the name of the study but does not indicate whether someone has taken part as a user of drugs or a non-drug user (we are recruiting both) and therefore does not implicate someone as a user of drugs. Your name and address will not be taken from this form and used for any purpose.

    Please feel free to ask me any questions…

    Thanks,

    Justin

    raj wrote:
    i would take part but i too live in scotland :groucho: :groucho: :groucho:

    so not much use to you either…

    :bounce_fl:bounce_fl:bounce_fl:bounce_fl:bounce_fl

    what kind of assurances of confidentiality can you offer to those who take part?

    ie will you record their names, addresses etc or how will you identify them in the project?
    [think this may be a part of the caution being shown WRT participation]

    [ hey guys- if i am wrong could you all shed some light on why you are not willing to take part? just so Justin knows what the sticking point is:wink:]

    TBHWY raj I’ll most PROBABLY be using K on a regular basis in India. I PM’d Justin to say I’d be willing to blog my experiences on K. But because of the reason it’d be a LDR, then I’d be no use to Justin. I’ve done some research on Ket and it actually suppress’s opiate withdrawl’s. So I’ll be only using it on a purely medicinal basis.:groucho:
    One of the physical side fx I encountered on Ket last season in Goa was to suddenley (temporarily) find myself with a speech impediment. Obviously under the effects of Ket one finds it difficult to put two words together anyway but this was a side effect that come on after regular use of Ket. Found myself with a stammer and unable to pronounce my R’s. Had to tell people it was because of regular Ket usage and not a natural occurring problem. It disappreared within several days.
    Where’s me 15 quid Justinraaa raaa raaa
    :love: :love: :love:
    :bounce_fl :bounce_fl :bounce_fl :bounce_fl :bounce_fl :bounce_fl

    Agent Subby wrote:
    TBHWY raj I’ll most PROBABLY be using K on a regular basis in India. I PM’d Justin to say I’d be willing to blog my experiences on K. But because of the reason it’d be a LDR, then I’d be no use to Justin. I’ve done some research on Ket and it actually suppress’s opiate withdrawl’s. So I’ll be only using it on a purely medicinal basis.:groucho:
    One of the physical side fx I encountered on Ket last season in Goa was to suddenley (temporarily) find myself with a speech impediment. Obviously under the effects of Ket one finds it difficult to put two words together anyway but this was a side effect that come on after regular use of Ket. Found myself with a stammer and unable to pronounce my R’s. Had to tell people it was because of regular Ket usage and not a natural occurring problem. It disappreared within several days.
    Where’s me 15 quid Justinraaa raaa raaa
    :love: :love: :love:
    :bounce_fl :bounce_fl :bounce_fl :bounce_fl :bounce_fl :bounce_fl

    Good effort, but i’m afraid that doesn’t get you the money! I hope that your trip to Goa goes well.

    Justin

    Thanks Justin.
    Tickets arrived this morning.
    *Agent Subby grinning like a Chesire Cat*
    BTW not even 15pence for that inadequate piece?raaa raaa :groucho:

    Hi,

    I’m still looking for people to take part in my study on the impact of ketamine on mental processing and personal experiences (more info below). If anyone is interested please PM me.

    Best Wishes,

    Justin

    Justin Grayer wrote:
    Hi,

    I’m doing my Doctorate in Clinical Psychology at University College London (UCL), and my thesis is investigating the effects of ketamine on mental processing and personal experiences. I have been given permission by the administrators of ‘partyvibe’ to post messages to see if any one would like to take part in the study. Before I continue, I would like to apologise in advance for any offence that may be caused by using your forum in this way. I also want to emphasise that this study is not being run by drug/pharmaceutical companies.

    I am looking for people to participate who fall into either of these two groups:

    1. Ketamine users (as well as other drugs) who use ketamine at least twice/month, for at least 1yr
    2. Other drug users (EXcluding ketamine use) using drugs at least twice/month, for at least 1yr

    The study takes about 1.5 – 2 hours, and comprises computer based tasks, as well as some pen and paper questionnaires, a drug history and a urine sample. (Participants will not be given drugs at the time of testing.) Your confidentiality will be assured.

    In exchange for your time you will be paid £15.

    Ideally, the study will take place at University College London (off Tottenham Court Road). However, if necessary I can meet people elsewhere. Testing can take place at pretty much anytime – week days and evenings, and weekends.

    If you are interested and would like to know more please let me know, either on this forum or through a private message.

    Thank you for reading.

    Justin Grayer
    Trainee Clinical Psychologist
    Sub department of Clinical Health Psychology, UCL,
    1-19 Torrington Place, London, WC1E 6BT

    Hi Everyone,

    I’m still desperately in need of people who use ketamine about twice a month, and have done for at least one year. Please can you let me know if you are interested – thank you!

    Justin

    Justin Grayer wrote:
    Hi,

    I’m doing my Doctorate in Clinical Psychology at University College London (UCL), and my thesis is investigating the effects of ketamine on mental processing and personal experiences. I have been given permission by the administrators of ‘partyvibe’ to post messages to see if any one would like to take part in the study. Before I continue, I would like to apologise in advance for any offence that may be caused by using your forum in this way. I also want to emphasise that this study is not being run by drug/pharmaceutical companies.

    I am looking for people to participate who fall into either of these two groups:

    1. Ketamine users (as well as other drugs) who use ketamine at least twice/month, for at least 1yr
    2. Other drug users (EXcluding ketamine use) using drugs at least twice/month, for at least 1yr

    The study takes about 1.5 – 2 hours, and comprises computer based tasks, as well as some pen and paper questionnaires, a drug history and a urine sample. (Participants will not be given drugs at the time of testing.) Your confidentiality will be assured.

    In exchange for your time you will be paid £15.

    Ideally, the study will take place at University College London (off Tottenham Court Road). However, if necessary I can meet people elsewhere. Testing can take place at pretty much anytime – week days and evenings, and weekends.

    If you are interested and would like to know more please let me know, either on this forum or through a private message.

    Thank you for reading.

    Justin Grayer
    Trainee Clinical Psychologist
    Sub department of Clinical Health Psychology, UCL,
    1-19 Torrington Place, London, WC1E 6BT

    Sorry I can’t be of any help now. But I’ll contact you in a year if still required. That’s if I’m not a permanent resident on Planet Ket.:groucho: :groucho:

    Agent Subby wrote:
    Sorry I can’t be of any help now. But I’ll contact you in a year if still required. That’s if I’m not a permanent resident on Planet Ket.:groucho: :groucho:

    Thank you!!!

    !15 anymore for anymore! just enuf for another gram lol….:bounce_fl

    lilmissmentalist wrote:
    !15 anymore for anymore! just enuf for another gram lol….:bounce_fl

    Exactly, it’s not a completely rubbish amount!

    Hi,

    Just to let you know that I am still looking for people to take part, so if you are interested, please PM me.

    Thank you,

    Justin

    Justin Grayer wrote:
    Hi,

    I’m doing my Doctorate in Clinical Psychology at University College London (UCL), and my thesis is investigating the effects of ketamine on mental processing and personal experiences. I have been given permission by the administrators of ‘partyvibe’ to post messages to see if any one would like to take part in the study. Before I continue, I would like to apologise in advance for any offence that may be caused by using your forum in this way. I also want to emphasise that this study is not being run by drug/pharmaceutical companies.

    I am looking for people to participate who fall into either of these two groups:

    1. Ketamine users (as well as other drugs) who use ketamine at least twice/month, for at least 1yr
    2. Other drug users (EXcluding ketamine use) using drugs at least twice/month, for at least 1yr

    The study takes about 1.5 – 2 hours, and comprises computer based tasks, as well as some pen and paper questionnaires, a drug history and a urine sample. (Participants will not be given drugs at the time of testing.) Your confidentiality will be assured.

    In exchange for your time you will be paid £15.

    Ideally, the study will take place at University College London (off Tottenham Court Road). However, if necessary I can meet people elsewhere. Testing can take place at pretty much anytime – week days and evenings, and weekends.

    If you are interested and would like to know more please let me know, either on this forum or through a private message.

    Thank you for reading.

    Justin Grayer
    Trainee Clinical Psychologist
    Sub department of Clinical Health Psychology, UCL,
    1-19 Torrington Place, London, WC1E 6BT

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