:laugh_at: haha thats a man with a love for his ket… or just sheer paranoia of sirens!
Nah thats just a dealer in a K hole lol
ive yet to see physical health impacts with my friends, but given time i’m sure it will come… but with my friends who use it regularly i can see strong impacts on their mind, those who are trying to cut back on how much they have are finding it very hard to do, and others have terrible paranoia, and the worst short-term memorys ever!
i still love the stuff though, just keep it to the weekend and know when to say no
I avoided it myself for many years or so then became an occasional user mostly “because all my mates did it”. Even then I prefer other experiences.
The problem though isn’t so much K but also the binge culture, and people constantly chasing “a new high”. When my mate first started regularly doing it it was about 6 years ago, and people started doing it because they had already got bad experiences off pills/amfet from caning too much, and initially K doesn’t have as much of a comedown.
I think when people are doing anything midweek its a bad sign, and although this sounds really “capitalist/mainstream” I feel the discipline of normal work (not necessarily working for a corporate, but some sort of work where you can’t get away with being trashed every day) is one of the things what holds you together during the week and makes the weekend worthwhile (and this comes from someone who was caning it every few days at one stage in his life!)
definatly, if i know i didnt have to get up everyday for work i’m pretty sure i’d get myself into a bit of a mess really, which is why its a very good thing for me to no longer be a student! i just live for the weekends, and spend monday to friday planning them!
i agree. if you don’t do anything productive, why should anyone care when you fart your liver out and fall down half dead?
by productive I don’t mean anything ‘corporate / capitalist’ either… you could be making earthenware cooking pots, painting or making music… as long as you work hard at it and follow your dreams, not let your life become a bad dream
I found this fairly recent article today (it is referenced in a Wikipedia article).
This is a link to a pressrel aimed at non-medical professionals. I have also attached the report (which is rather more complicated) for those who are interested or may understand more of it than I do..
http://www.hkmj.org/earlyrelease/0708ea1.HTM
Perhaps the Hong Kong medical professionals should contact their counterparts in Great Britain, as I am sure from what I am hearing (albeit only from my friends and acquaintances bemoaning various illnesses) that people are presenting with similar symptoms here as well…
Do you remember Justin Grayer who came on here asking for participants for a study he was doing on his thesis about ketamine use last summer?
I actually took part in this study as i fell into the group of people who have tried drugs excluding k…
I would be very interested to see his results if he is still about….
I believe Justin is still processing his data, with a view to public release at the end of this year (after his assesments etc)
my mate used to kain ketamine (TBH the nutter probably still does, ive moved on in friend group) and he ended up with ulcers all in his stomach and so did his mate who was bang on it to, he used to have to drink litres of water and then throw it all back up to de-acidify his stomach….. he looked a state sometimes….. wierd dude.
i said that a couple of years ago, but whenever i say that about anything it always goes out the window…
it was a kinda double negative – i probably will end up touchin it is what i meant, even tho not now
oh yeh sorry mate, my bad, didnt read it properly!
:weee: gonna take a while before i do anythin – have to take some time out after this weekend :groucho:
so would i be an addict if i work full time yet have a coupla lines in the eve? i dont smoke so to me i just use it like a stoner might smoke a joint of an eve…
only u can tell us if ur addicted, we cant tell u
The question is can you get through the evening without it?
Give it a try and find out – if you are addicted you cant get through a day without it as a general rule. If you get through the day but are twitchy and unsettled it may be time to take a long hard look at your relationship with ketamine – you are depending on it to be able to cope with life and thats an addiction in my book.
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