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  • I’ve had a couple of lines of K in my time. I really don’t think a party is the time or place for it. More like on a big comfy sofa at the end of a good night out.

    Even so, it’s a bit shabby as communication goes out the window. And communication is what separates us from our simian cousins, after all.

    GL, I have to agree with your thoughts on angry and paranoid people, especially in London.

    A couple of years ago I spent some time in Chile, Bolivia and Argentina. Even in major cities such as Buenos Aires, during the total collapse of the economy, people were very friendly, helpful and hospitable. Asking for directions often lead to guided walks, long interesting conversations and even invitations to family meals!

    When I got back to England I was a bit lost in central London, trying to find my way back to a mate’s place. I asked numerous people for directions. People looked through or past me, pushed past me and ignored me. In the end I decided to do a little social experiment.

    I asked 10 people for directions to Fulham High Road (I was about half a mile away). 7 people ignored me completely. 2 were really helpful, but spoke almost no English. 1 tried to sell me crack.

    This really blew my mind. What a bunch of miserable pricks English people can be.

    sorry this post has nothing to do with K or parties.

    Ive never really seen the appeal of doing K at a party and personally dont think its a “party drug”. Maybe if your in your own home with your mates and you fancy indulging then fine, but rolling around on the floor dribbling or looking zombiefied isnt gonna give off such a good vibe as smiley people avin it on say MDMA / E.

    small amounts of K along with other substances can be OK; but I don’t like doing it in large quantity unless I am really with people I trust as it can warp your mind a bit and make you paranoid even if you don’t go down a k-hole.

    Being an ex-Londoner I get very paranoid and mistrustful of people easily anyway so I have to watch what I take so it doesn’t get worse.

    What Globaloon says about London is spot on – I did laugh but at the same time it saddens me that our countrys capital city is like that.

    Tonight a load of m8s are going up there but ICBA – I started my raving days in London and I’ve seen too much of the citys darkside in my life to be able to fully enjoy myself there. Reading is slightly better but rapidly going downhill 🙁 – but thankfully there is something which makes it often a “safe haven” for parties.

    At some London parties a lot of people actually fight the “loved-up” feelings of E/MDMA to avoid being mugged or harrased!

    There is a really nasty “violence/weapons” culture at street level in London – its not even minor crime done out of necessity/lack of opportunity that the old cockneys used to do (like the caricatures of South Londoners in only fools and horses which are actually quite spot on if you know the area!) but this violence for violence’s sake imported from USA gang culture which leads to peopel getting killed for fuck all 🙁

    Originally posted by SdZ
    … such a good vibe as smiley people avin it on say MDMA / E.

    that’s what I’m talking ’bout 😎

    Originally posted by globalloon
    that’s what I’m talking ’bout 😎

    I think location and crowds have a lot to do with it though – far more so than the substances consumed.

    You can have those smiley happy vibes on the ridgeway or at a Reading warehouse party and also the ones globaloon has been part of to even if there is bare ketamine everywhere – for instance at one Reading party warehouse this year I have briliant memories of the k-heads larking around on a loading bay trolley (I even have some video footage of this which I will get round to editing one day 🙂 )

    But London is different. If you don’t keep your guard up there you become a victim. That’s not to say that London parties are all darkness – I did go to a couple in the early part of this year and net some really sound people but there’s really this feeling in London that you have to look over your shoulder. TBH if I still lived there I would still go to them… Some Londoners claim it isn’t that bad but what is really happening is that you are getting desensitised to the hate and violence…

    Genralisation is not good. I take ketamin often at parties. and ys i am the smiliest guy around even on it and you willalways see me chattin to stranegers of all sorts alll the time. There may be times when i might need to sit down well in the corner, for a bit. not violent or agressive at all. is that wrong.

    ok i seen some real wanky behavior from ket heads.

    like throwing someones bag on the fire!?!

    my first warehouse party was a ket loaded attitude heavy mental battleground.

    me an me mates didnt go anywhere alone that night
    the lads even walked the lasses to the loo. stuck solidly together whilst dancing… we all bonded really well, it was a wicked night. that was what kept it all good, in the end.

    there was a more sorted contingent there, (like the ones that told me its a bit gung ho on the attitude round ere luv.. watch yaself.)
    to which i say cheers mate. 😀 One of the boys was almost punched whilst dancing!

    I wandered round on philosopers stone truffles squeaking the words “dirty donkey dust” in me best faery voice. I was truely titted. but i definately had to “shield” myself against the agressive vibe.

    some peeps can do ket and not be shitty. one of these is a mate of mine, and hes funny as fuck. Mr unregistered above me, goes and chills out somewhere. Thats kewl.. but peeps doing ket who get harsh should look at the setting in which they choose to do it and thier tolerance to it.

    Originally posted by PixieO’Fubar
    ok i seen some real wanky behavior from ket heads.

    like throwing someones bag on the fire!?!

    hmm (assuming its a girl) sounds more like sexual tension/hate which is becoming common at parties these days..

    A lad gets turned down or a girl is jealous of the other girls boyfriend/that she is more popular than them (or they are just jealous “someone is having a better time than them”) so the hateful person decides to destroy their property – drugs are just used as an excuse when the hate was always in their minds

    if you cuold check the attackers school records you’d probably find they have done stuff like this (bullying) from an early age

    but you are right that people who start getting harsh on any drugs should sort themselves out – either that or their friends should stop providing them with partylines, lifts etc. If they want to behave like scum they can do so away from our parties..

    hi there im just new to the forum but this is the 1st topic that i noticed. I take kk quite alot and i agree it not for clubs it always better to take when ur in good company at a after party. anyway just thought id let people hear my opinion.

    Originally posted by General Lighting
    drugs are just used as an excuse when the hate was always in their minds

    Damn right, 2 many arseholes out there who act like wankers and then claim “00oooh I was fuct”
    Worst part is all their friends R always so amused by them, or apear 2 B anyway

    Originally posted by Unregistered
    Damn right, 2 many arseholes out there who act like wankers and then claim “00oooh I was fuct”
    Worst part is all their friends R always so amused by them, or apear 2 B anyway

    unfortunately way too true. have fun, but drugs arent an excuse to act like complete scum to everyone around.

    I’m beginning to wonder if K is actually the only thing keeping the scene alive?

    The agression, hate and violence from the streets is being carried right through to the raves now not our fault maybe but still our problem

    Its maybe only the drugs which prevent it exploding in bloodshed in same way it does every weekend at conventional pubs and clubs.. pills no longer guarantee someone will be fluffy and happy, amphet and coke make an angry person angrier and more dangerous – at least K’s emotion numbing (yet slightly euphoric in small doses) effect keeps people from fighting – I’ve known situations where ppl would have fought amongst themselves but the fact they were on K and at a party stopped it..

    I cannot imagine people sucessfully having a ruck on K 😀

    Kicking off on ket has got to be harder than swimming through jam. No fun, hard work and leaves you covered in jam. Perhaps

    As a new taker of K i find this so hard to comprehend. I have taken K Several times now. Mostly by itself, but with other stuff as well. And no matter what i dont think i could get aggresive. Even if i wanted to, would there be a point???? I personally don’t think so. Admittedley a club sometimes, depending on amount taken is not a place for ket. Especially taken on pills. Unless u can handle the surrealness ahead in the club. Ketamine, when your in the surreal state affects you greatley depending on music and lights. I have shared halucinations with friends. we have all been in the same room, but in our heads different places. This is such an immense feeling with little control over what you see or feel. Being like this could be a very scary situation depending on the music and surroundings. My advice, take small amounts in a club maybe closer to the end of the night when you are coming down. Go home and carry on with the K till early hours. Get some decent mood lights that react with the music and get something chilled out on like cafe ibiza for example. Then hopefully u will be in an altered surreal state. HIGHly reccommended!

    IF U CAN MOVE WHILST ON IT U HAVEN’T DONE ENUFF, VIOLENCE?! PEOPLE SHOULD BE MORE WORRIED ABOUT THE SCUMMY ROCKIES.

    Violence on k?? I find it hard enuf to work out which foot goes down when whilst walking on k!
    I have to say I only started doing k last year and I wont be doing it again.
    It never really appealed to me, but after one crazy night out some mates got the k out and I thought I’d give it a go. I mean, you gotta try these things to know if you dont like it, right?
    I tried it a few more times throughout 2004. some at parties, some after.
    Mostly it was rubbish, in fact the only good time I really had on k involved me and my bird being in bed for 10 hours, if you catch my drift 😉
    In its defence, I havent met a violent k head to date, in fact if I could choose what sort of person would try and start on me, I’d probably choose a k head, cos at least I could just flick them on the forehead and they’d just fall over!

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