really though its being vulnerable on K that makes parties attractive to cunts/theives and stopped some party organisers from self policing.
[hedfuk excepted]
waves to hedfuk possy
So your blaming the drugs people have chosen to do since the dawn of time for ruining a free party,ever stopped to think that if your holding a goodun”cunts/thieves” ,wouldnt be there to start off with :weee:
personally ive been to a few free 1s and no bother what so ever bar my mukker fallin asleep on “k” and runnin the battery down on his car fukin rite offit.and after playin for about 100-300 pissed up students last week then soz mate ive gotta disagree,it aint the drugs its the wankers that cant afford them :bigsmile: :bounce_ci
people have been using ketamine since the dawn of time have they?
what are you on about?
My K experience put me off people for quite some time. I was spiKed with K while at a festival. I think that i was given a large dose in a drink, all i recall is one moment i was having a good time slightly drunk and then it hit me i couldn’t move i didn’t reconize my own son and all i wanted to do was go to bed, Which was a long walk away.
I have had K before a couple of times so i knew what it was but i didn’t like it nor the fact that i was spiKed. K heads think that it is funny to do this to some one. I think because of the nature of the drug and the effect it has, users of K can get very disconnected from thier body/feelings and come desensitised to the world around them.
I have been taking k for over 4 yrs now ant as bad as i used to be clamed down quite alot ! I have to say i can neva remeber once get moody on k i get silly n make ppl laff (not always good for me tho!) and all the ppl i know who have been raving for yrs take it n neva get like that….I think its the attuide of all these dicks wanting to come n jack ppl n spoil the fun and i think k has got a bad name because of these ppl. I mean cum on look at the world ppl r like that wen they r just sober ant they now !!!!!Bring on the summer parties !!!!!!!!!
I used to be on K but I’m off it now, I must say I did enjoy the experience, and the things I felt while I was taking it. On the other hand; I also feel much betternow I’m off it, I have more money I go to more raves and meet alot of new people… To be honest if you offered it me I doubt I’ll say no but that’s me, no willpower
SCANDAL ON EMMERDALE AS ZOE THE LESBIAN SCHIZOPHRENIC VET INJECTS THE LOCAL LOTHARIO BAD BOY (WITH WHOM SHE HAS A CHILD) WITH 2 DOSES OF HORSE TRANQUILISERS AKA KETAMINE HE IS KNOW IN CRITICAL CONDITION – HE WOKE UP VOMITED NOW HAS PNEUMONIA – COULD BE BRAIN DAMAGED – – IS THIS POSSIBLE IN REALITY? HAVE TAKEN K QUITE A NUMBER OF TIMES – BUT NEVER O/D’D OBVIOUSLY QUITE A FEW YEARS BACK NOW THOUGH WONDER WHAT SORT OF K LAND HE IS IN? :good_evil
I am not a doctor, but this scenario seems extremely unlikely. Ketamine is indicated (prescribed) in hospital emergency departments because it is relatively safe.
I’ve only recently read the consultation documents about ketamine becoming class C and don’t recall any mention of adverse effects of this nature.
However the drugs coverage on ITV1 is deliberately skewed to the anti side.
Under the Ofcom code of practice which regulates TV programmes, producers must not show drugs in a positive manner or action can be taken against them or the broadcaster.
Worse still for ITV there are lobby groups which will record programmes they don’t like and then whinge to the companies which advertise inbetween those programmes, threatening to withdraw their custom.
In the current media climate of downsizing, if you want to keep your job you do what those in charge tell you to. That’s why we end up with this inaccurate rubbish perpetually shown on TV…
A more accurate story line would be the guy picking up a zoonose (disease transferred from animals) as she had re-used a dirty needle from the sharps bin…
I am not a user of da k but u could call me a visuall user, id gone 2 a rave with a friend and she ad been doin k for a while. i never known her on it only e’s, and the change i noticed in her 2 how she is on pills woz great. even though she said she woz enjoyin it, i woz doubtin that. she had lost that glow in her face she usually had when we were on the same level and the same drug! seein it as an outsider K and pills dont go together so there is goin to b a divide in the rave scene. wott d’ya tink?
I think you’re right mate. Not that anybody looks particularly great after a night raving!
It’s not quite so widely used in Europe tho, just seems to be English people who are partial to horse tranquilisers.
I’ve tried it and I don’t really see the attraction. Although you don’t really get a shit hangover like on beans.
People on K don’t smile, communicate or dance; people on xtc smile, chat and dance…and to me that’s what parties are all about!
Depends how much you do really. The whole idea is not to get ‘tranquilised’ isn’t it? My sister loves it, and we smiled, communicated and danced our way through the UK Teknival!!
But yeah, most people just get completely fucked off it and K-hole which is probably one of the most boring sounding drug experiences I can think of.
Reading this reminded me of the time when I got attacked whilst on k. I was just standing at the bar at a rave (in an old cinema at elephant and castle-this was way back now..), and I felt the sensation of warmth on me bonce…Turned around and there was this bod pouring coffee over me head!! What followed was a bit like a laurel and hardy flick! In an attempt to get me own back (this bod just stood there grinning at me) I flung me cup of coffe at him…but he was now behind someone else…so they got it in the face instead! Now this guy was pissed and started getting aggro meanwhile that other troublemaker was cracking up…at some point..(it all started to get a bit blurred around this point)…I felt a sort of “cushion” like sensation across me face….I was dazzled for a second…then I just burst out laughing and walked away between many a bemused face!! Me moral to this tale kids is that anger confronted with humour can often stop a stupid incident getting nasty for everyone! Its funny as muck looking back now…but if I hadn’t been on k…this incident probably would have ended differently…but then maybe it wouldn’t have happened at all…I was just another easy target!
I still think its a lot to do with individuals personality and a change in the vibe at raves rather than drugs alone…
I know people who do K and are always laughing and smiling….
but there are also incidents of people being pilled up and having a proper fight (there are even people in my city who take pills before going on a townie binge drinking bout and then look for people to fight!). On the drugs forum about a year ago I relayed a story about a lad who was on pills encountered some scrote who had given his little sister hassle, the (pilled up) lad just went straight up to the other guy and stabbed him to death in the middle of the street!
IMO K isn’t an ideal party substance – but it is here to stay as a result of prohibition and the binge/polydrug culture where people do more and more of anything. It can be taken in quantity without immediate major health problems (although they eventually do catch up with users); and as it is not yet classified the risk (if you get caught by authorities) against reward for users and dealers is far better than “real” illegal substances.
Raves have changed, and particularly in cities [not just London, look at the manchester board for instance] the original vibe has been contaminated by negative influences from wider society. In many places the scenes a bit more agressive and competitive these days and people are less friendly.
A few years ago no one would have dreamed of throwing hot liquids at one another at a rave, whether they were on drugs or not.
the trick is to find the right parties, and the right people – that way it may not matter what drugs you do; or even if you do them at all!
I used to be a hardcore raver in the Bristol South west area (Big up noise pollution crew!!!) where there is and has been a HUUUUGE K scnene for quite some time. I used to take a lot of the stuff myself (as did everyone i now) and where I’m from K is a rugualry used and accepted drug. However, when i go to London sometimes the reaction to K I get is different than in Bristol, maybe this is because there isnt a big K scene in that area. I want to defend K, I dont take the stuff anymore and wudnt advise anyone to start heavily using it as it does like all drugs fuck u up in the end if abused. However, whilst some people rudely refer to it as ‘horse tranquilizer’ which isnt untrue as it used in vetenary medicine id also like to point out that its being used more increasingly in human medicine particualry peadiatrics and treament for minor burns. anyway the poiint i want to make is that in my expereince, i agree that K isnt always the best suited drug for raves but a little tip from an old raver is this…..a little bit of K and some pills or MDMA…..absolutely fucking beautiful! the two are a mtach made in heaven, dont overdo the K or u’ll go into a hole. Take a pill and help yoursenf to little lines of K here and there, and trust me the music never sounded so great! Rave on…..dont kill the fun just yet x
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