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  • DontBeliveTheHype!;248163 wrote:
    . ket may be worce than or better than some drugs .. but not the same as all of them … this is the point i am making … as i say .. if you do loads of ket .. your gonna have problems … same goes with any thing … if you work out too much .. eventualy you will become musclebound and you movement will be restricted .. you eat too much you become fat … you do too much ket you bladder gets shredded …. it’s all relative.

    true, but it just seems that without the guidance from the nanny state, the NHS or even paranoia of getting busted by the feds, too many people overdo any recreational drugs they can obtain.

    I do have a lot of family connections with the NHS (how else do you think a IT/telecoms engineer who fixes machines and not people knows all this medical stuff :wink:? ) and I’ve been researching the history of recreational drug use in Britain over the last 100 years.

    the harsh facts are that people have been given over the years the chance to self regulate and have repeatedly fucked up. This is with every drug from alcohol to amfetamines, MDMA, ket and coke/heroin. Some of the illegal drugs were even once legal until recreational users brought things on top. You could get amfetamines and even some opiates at British pharmacies legally well until the 1970s.

    10 years ago just after this site started I thought we were nearly reaching a time of enlightenment, and that in the next generation we would see a total change and the decriminalisation of drugs at least across the EU nations.

    Sadly after seeing what happened when cannabis got decriminalised and what happened with ket (and as I have mentioned on a number of ocassions I was once a regular if not a compulsive user myself) I think we are now at least two generations away from this. (our one hope is surprisingly China, as the actions of youths in this nation can make an impact across the world).

    General Lighting;248220 wrote:
    true, but it just seems that without the guidance from the nanny state, the NHS or even paranoia of getting busted by the feds, too many people overdo any recreational drugs they can obtain.

    I do have a lot of family connections with the NHS (how else do you think a IT/telecoms engineer who fixes machines and not people knows all this medical stuff :wink:? ) and I’ve been researching the history of recreational drug use in Britain over the last 100 years.

    the harsh facts are that people have been given over the years the chance to self regulate and have repeatedly fucked up. This is with every drug from alcohol to amfetamines, MDMA, ket and coke/heroin. Some of the illegal drugs were even once legal until recreational users brought things on top. You could get amfetamines and even some opiates at British pharmacies legally well until the 1970s.

    10 years ago just after this site started I thought we were nearly reaching a time of enlightenment, and that in the next generation we would see a total change and the decriminalisation of drugs at least across the EU nations.

    Sadly after seeing what happened when cannabis got decriminalised and what happened with ket (and as I have mentioned on a number of ocassions I was once a regular if not a compulsive user myself) I think we are now at least two generations away from this. (our one hope is surprisingly China, as the actions of youths in this nation can make an impact across the world).

    see this is the problem .. it’s more about the effects of drugs when over used that are bad … and as you say people have a tendancy to get carried away with them selves and be greedy … imo this sais more about people than drugs .. alltho i can’t argue that some drugs aren’t addictive as they blatently are .. i can argue that people need to be alot stronger willed. i also belive that if the wourld wasn’t so fucked up for many people then the need for them to cain drugs in there mind wouldn’t be as great .. and self regulation would be alot easyer

    DontBeliveTheHype!;248225 wrote:
    see this is the problem .. it’s more about the effects of drugs when over used that are bad … and as you say people have a tendancy to get carried away with them selves and be greedy … imo this sais more about people than drugs .. alltho i can’t argue that some drugs aren’t addictive as they blatently are .. i can argue that people need to be alot stronger willed. i also belive that if the wourld wasn’t so fucked up for many people then the need for them to cain drugs in there mind wouldn’t be as great .. and self regulation would be alot easyer

    yeah thats the main thing. I wish I understood enough Chinese to read whatever the equivalent of PV is out there (or that those citizens of China who occasionally post here would use their English skills to join our community rather than just spam stuff!) as they seem to be self-regulating a lot better than some Western nations!

    Their govt, contrary to every other SE / Eastern Asian nation is actually becoming more lenient – given where many of the K addicts mentioned in this thread are from this is a significant development.

    General Lighting;248255 wrote:
    yeah thats the main thing. I wish I understood enough Chinese to read whatever the equivalent of PV is out there (or that those citizens of China who occasionally post here would use their English skills to join our community rather than just spam stuff!) as they seem to be self-regulating a lot better than some Western nations!

    Their govt, contrary to every other SE / Eastern Asian nation is actually becoming more lenient – given where many of the K addicts mentioned in this thread are from this is a significant development.

    and the thing is with drugs atm is if you have a seriose problem the help structure isn’t there .. or if it is then people don’t wish to seak it out as much as they would if they didn’t have the fear of getting arrested and locked up for admiting they have done drugs .. even if the people wouldn’t get arrested for it (as people dont generaly get arrested for seeking help) people still have hang ups about talking to people in a position to help them about there drug problems as it is still seen as a seriously bad thing to be on drugs and still carries a prisson centance.

    most of my friends are k head (its sad but true) im also in a relationship with a k head and i can tell you 100% crystal K will fuck up your nose and give you k cramps in ze’marnin! << but this is only if you are a heavy user and on, like elretardo said 3g+ a day. But if your not a wrongun and can buy a gram on a fri night and still have a couple lines left sunday night then sniffing uncooked ket shouldnt be a problem.
    I dunno why uncooked ket is so bad for the body but maybe it is because the manufacture of it has left nasy(er) chemicals. Ive always thought uncooked ket tastes a lil different to cooked. abit sweeter and sharper if u know what i mean.
    So my advice is COOK IT! For best results, on a plate over a pan of boiling water. On a very low heat. Ive found cooking it slower makes for better ket. I got half litre last week and was feeling really inpatient (didnt wanna sniff uncooked but really wanted a line) so i zapped it in the microwave. Hated it. Ruined my ket. Wasnt half as strong imo. And u have to scrape it off 2 plates which can be abit annoying. It makes the ket really chalky and lumpy too. Not a fan.

    smokeitup;248667 wrote:
    most of my friends are k head (its sad but true) im also in a relationship with a k head and i can tell you 100% crystal K will fuck up your nose and give you k cramps in ze’marnin! << but this is only if you are a heavy user and on, like elretardo said 3g+ a day. But if your not a wrongun and can buy a gram on a fri night and still have a couple lines left sunday night then sniffing uncooked ket shouldnt be a problem.
    I dunno why uncooked ket is so bad for the body but maybe it is because the manufacture of it has left nasy(er) chemicals. Ive always thought uncooked ket tastes a lil different to cooked. abit sweeter and sharper if u know what i mean.
    So my advice is COOK IT! For best results, on a plate over a pan of boiling water. On a very low heat. Ive found cooking it slower makes for better ket. I got half litre last week and was feeling really inpatient (didnt wanna sniff uncooked but really wanted a line) so i zapped it in the microwave. Hated it. Ruined my ket. Wasnt half as strong imo. And u have to scrape it off 2 plates which can be abit annoying. It makes the ket really chalky and lumpy too. Not a fan.

    i totaly agree with impatiance(SP) thing. usually i jus wanna ave a line asap so i crush the crystals up to a powder, but when i DO make the effort and cook it up properly, fuck its much better.

    Cosmic_Energy;248669 wrote:
    i totaly agree with impatiance(SP) thing. usually i jus wanna ave a line asap so i crush the crystals up to a powder, but when i DO make the effort and cook it up properly, fuck its much better.

    a CD case with a piece of paper over the ket and run a card over it as hard as possible. that’ll do the trick!

    am gonna have a cheeseburger becasue im hungry

    Does ketamine go a funny colour when you burn/overcook it?

    Cosmic_Energy;248850 wrote:
    Does ketamine go a funny colour when you burn/overcook it?

    No it mutants and sucks your soul out through your japs eye. :weee: (Sorry mate feeling a bit silly tonight)

    Seriously tho when SWIM cooked it (Ok it was me) we left it in the oven for ages and it did go a bit blackish. Still tho did it anyway lol! Sometimes depends on the vessel that you cook it in as well. Someone i don’t know used to cook K in a really dirty pan and it would always come out really dark and looked f*cking rank, got ya mashed though! 😉

    Cosmic_Energy;248850 wrote:
    Does ketamine go a funny colour when you burn/overcook it?

    yes .. and also best to put it in some thing stainless steal if your heating it as coatings on certain metals react with the liqued k and make it go brown and smell like metal.. or even evaporate (with all the good bits in).. witch really pissed me off when i found that one out lol 😥

    best most effective way to cook it is in a bain marie (oo la la!)

    Get a saucspan of boiling water almost to the top, and a glass plate that fits on top. pour on the K and wait… and wait.. and wait.. and check it.. and wait.. and wait… and check it again…. and poke it a bit… and wait… and wait… and poke it.. and wait… and its ready!

    The other method, which would give the strongest is to air dry it. put it on a plate and point a fan at it and then wait x1000,000!:yawn:

    djprocess;248884 wrote:
    best most effective way to cook it is in a bain marie (oo la la!)

    Get a saucspan of boiling water almost to the top, and a glass plate that fits on top. pour on the K and wait… and wait.. and wait.. and check it.. and wait.. and wait… and check it again…. and poke it a bit… and wait… and wait… and poke it.. and wait… and its ready!

    i used to use that method but ur right it takes fekking ages:laugh_at:
    then i discovered the microwave. doesnt make the K quite as ‘nice’ as the cooking over boiling water method. but its a hell of alot quicker. and just as strong IMO. i dont know if i buy the whole “the more time it takes to cook up your ketamine the stronger it will be” stuff.

    i swear all crystal k does is fuck your nose up and doesnt get you as fucked.

    There’s such an underground feeling about it, it’s like taboo to so many people and they get really unnerved when ya mention so if ya have a problem with it no-one wants to hear it and if they do ya know there just looking down on ya. Dooschbags…

    Government lets it happen so freely but isn’t there to pick up its own pieces…

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