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  • problematic drug users yes, but the drug is not the problem, the person is. If their drug of choice didnt exist they’d almost certainly be fucking themselves up on the next best chemical. Most people use ket responsibly, but it’s always the statistical outliers who grab all the headlines.

    Anyway people shouldnt care if people want to fuck themselves up with drugs. The cost to the NHS is dwarfed by the money saved on pensions when people send themselves to an early grave through poor health caused by drug abuse.

    @Iacchus 346273 wrote:

    problematic drug users yes, but the drug is not the problem, the person is. If their drug of choice didnt exist they’d almost certainly be fucking themselves up on the next best chemical. Most people use ket responsibly, but it’s always the statistical outliers who grab all the headlines.

    Out of all the drugs I’ve seen become popular since 1991 K does seem to have created the most issues amongst the sort of people what aren’t really “junkies” such as my circles of friends in both London/SE England and East Anglia.

    even if comparatively few people suffer major medical issues it hasn’t improved a lot of my mates health or quality of life.

    the authorities have backed themselves into a corner with the classification though – because K is a useful legit medical drug its only been made class C (to stop the costs to the NHS and the veterinary profession spiralling) – which still means its more
    profitable and less risky to deal than MDMA or amfetamine.

    the whole K thing in SE and Eastern England is very recent and stems from the late 1990s when MDMA became increasingly poor quality, and people being greedy with amfetamine frightened themselves away from this substance.

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    Anyway people shouldnt care if people want to fuck themselves up with drugs. The cost to the NHS is dwarfed by the money saved on pensions when people send themselves to an early grave through poor health caused by drug abuse.

    This would be the case if problematic drug users (including the legal drugs) actually dropped dead quickly / or took massive overdoses. But in fact they don’t, they end up becoming regular users of expensive NHS treatment (both for physical and mental health issues) in their 20s and can end up being in this situation for 20/30 years, and some of them even end up claiming invalidity benefits etc…

    that is however a good argument though to legalise the lot including all the class A’s and have them as strong as possible. The greedy people (and/or those who are actually genuinely suicidal) would simply cull themselves out, the rest would learn to self regulate, and once someone is dead they present no further burden to society.

    @General Lighting 346283 wrote:

    that is however a good argument though to legalise the lot including all the class A’s and have them as strong as possible. The greedy people (and/or those who are actually genuinely suicidal) would simply cull themselves out, the rest would learn to self regulate, and once someone is dead they present no further burden to society.

    Survival of the fittest eh? 😉

    @DJCliffy 346290 wrote:

    Survival of the fittest eh? 😉

    its actually how a lot of the more “right on” European nations with various forms of decriminalisation work…many have less problem drug users than in the UK…

    heard the sickest ketamine story yesterday. some of my friends know these k heads from chesham who do gram lines and spit their k drip into a bucket, after doing this a few times they pour this ket spit into a pan, cook and sniff it again… lets just say my friends don’t like being around these people

    @p0ly 347281 wrote:

    heard the sickest ketamine story yesterday. some of my friends know these k heads from chesham who do gram lines and spit their k drip into a bucket, after doing this a few times they pour this ket spit into a pan, cook and sniff it again… lets just say my friends don’t like being around these people

    That’s fucking rough. A never ending source of K. :laugh_at: :yakk::yakk::yakk::yakk:

    anyone ever get kidney pain from k?

    @Iacchus 347351 wrote:

    anyone ever get kidney pain from k?

    yes, but only recently.. they ache alot. especially after ive been struggling alot to go for a piss…

    @smokeitup 347358 wrote:

    yes, but only recently.. they ache alot. especially after ive been struggling alot to go for a piss…

    know if it signifies permanent damage or just general soreness?

    @Iacchus 347363 wrote:

    know if it signifies permanent damage or just general soreness?

    im not sure if its permanant damage or not.. im yet to go to the doctors and see but i should imagine so.. a few kheads i know have recently come up with kidney aches and pains.. its a little worrying..

    After i last had Ket i got really bad kidney pains the next morning on the way home. Probably not the actualy ket that’s the problem though, Because most likely it’s cut with any mix of other chemicals, probably around 50% pure at best

    to help prevent/get rid off a stomach cramp caused by ketamine (k belly:yakk:) drink 1 pint of milk with a 5ml spoonfull of milk of magnesia mixed in it, (even if things get really bad this will get rid of any pain increase amount of magnesia if the 5ml does not settle it). other than that, try and avoid sniffin on an empty stomach ..

    if you begin to feel a discomfort in your stomach after sniffin k drink a hot cup of lemon tea to soothe. if you get one when your out somewear keep yourself warm and try and get hold of some milk asap! 😉

    im yet to come across a prevention for the bladder problems, although taking regular breaks from the stuff and drinking 2-3 litres of water every day defintly seems to help flush the toxins out of the bladder/kidneys which in turn stops any infections arising ..

    i need to not do ket for at least a month, been caining it recently…. all this over sleep recovery is shit

    @p0ly 348138 wrote:

    i need to not do ket for at least a month, been caining it recently…. all this over sleep recovery is shit

    Bad poly! :crazy_dru

    i know 🙁

    so i’m staying in tonight, gonna be a good boy….

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