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Legal Highs – I’ve tried a few of them, I cannot remember the name but they werent very strong.
Now I heard about these diablo-xxx which are red and apparently fucking powerful and I found them but they were for plants only and not for human consumption.
So keep trying till you find the right one.
Ask around too to see which ones are the best.
You know that they all say plant feeder on them don’t you?
I was not sure dude
But here they are:
DIABLO XXX – UK legal highs Party Pills Spice Herbal highs – Detailed item view
Eldordo, me misguided? i must be, i thought you knew everything!!!!! nuf said lol
here’s another minor point (or not so minor if you end up crossing swords with anyone in authority)…. and worth noting as it could save your money, livelihood or (in extreme cases) your liberty!
The term “legal / herbal highs” is merely a marketing ploy used by the people what sell these chemicals.
They are just drugs the authorities and regulators haven’t caught up with yet. As soon as they get popular (particularly if when abused they cause similar health problems to the other party drugs), the regulators will step in and make these drugs illegal too.
Unfortunately, despite the worlds leaders arguing and fighting wars over political ideologies, religion, resources, at present one thing they all agree about is that non medical/recreational drug use is criminal and anti-social!
There is currently a global consensus backed up by UN conventions and each sovereign nations laws that getting high in itself is a criminal activity, and considerable resources are expended worldwide to enforce these laws.
Although we may disagree with this, there is nothing we can do until such time that the world view changes.
Maybe one day banning drugs will be seen as ludicrous and unwanted as racism or sexism or any other form of discrimination – but that will depend on users being sensible and seems to be at least two generations away in the current climate.
And at street level if a cop busts you with two odd looking pills or a bag or powder in your pocket you will get arrested on suspicion anyway in most jurisdictions. Cops aren’t scientists, but they have the power to enforce the law and seize the substances so a proper scientist can see what they are.
Until then, I would suggest discussing “legal” highs with the same level of discretion as you would any current recreational substance. Its of course up to the sellers of these substances how open they are (due to different world laws) but the more people shout about them the more likely those in authority may start sticking their nose in and restricting their availability.
Totally agree, the chemicals are not legal but in the same sentence not illegal either. Obviously this depends on where you are from. I did say that analouges are illegal in the usa as are some other research chemicals are illegal in other countries. Basically research, and dont rely on just one source for making a decision.
Id aggree about the police, you would get arrested, but theres a difference between a class A and something unclassified if it gets as far as the courts. But an important point to remember if you are selling something as a class A, it doesnt matter what it is you ARE commiting an offence.
THE WORD IS LOOPHOLE
under the Medicines Act, all pharmaceutical chemicals not already under class A B or C are legal to possess but illegal to sell or use as a drug.
true, but in the UK (I cannot comment about the situation in other nations) this is more an issue for those marketing these substances than selling them.
in Britain a suspected class A user (even sometimes for the worse class A’s) is very often offered the “chance” of a Formal Caution if they admit to possession. This means as little as 2-6 hours in the cells, a considerable saving to the public purse as the substances don’t need expensive testing nor does the Court system have to be used, and the matter remains private between the Police and the individual.
If however they argue the case that these are “legal highs” they will be bailed whilst the substances are tested (with more uncertainty/stress) and may have to appear before the Magistrates Court, with every chance the case will be reported in the local press with their full name and home address being published (and from monitoring crime news I’ve noticed this seems to happen whether people are guilty or not).
As a Formal Caution is no big deal unless you want to go for a very high flying job or to travel to the USA (I’ve clocked up two yet have a management position in a company where by law they must have enhanced CRB disclosure), many people take this option rather than try to play the system, but for a small time user weighing up the risks against the rewards, this means they may as well just do the illegal drugs if they can get them!
yep, people have even been done for fraud for selling inert substances!
the whole thing about “plant food” is one of the loopholes, but these loopholes are quickly stopped up these days.
Usually its because people have been stupid and overdone the substances, felt ill and gone running to the NHS (who also enforce the Medicines Act!). And that was precisely the same way many years ago the current set of party drugs became illegal….
I work in a head shop. Do you?
funny i know a cleaner who works in a hospital, hes certainly not someone id want advice on medical matters. hehehehehe
Ive also been to some of those electrical retail superstores, some of the shop assistants you really wouldnt want their advice. raaa
Right im not interested in what you think about what ive written.I was writtting a post on what i feel i have learnt and to give maybe a little clarity for people who are confused. I’ll leave it up to readers of the post to go away and investigate what ive written, i beleive people should read from as many different sources and NOT to take one persons veiw on the subject which at best is a grey area.
1. the original noe dove was only made illegal in israel. no where else(already ILLEGAL IN USA)
2. Funny me and my wife were buying vast ammounts of pure mephedrone when it first became readily available. We are not addicted we dont have it anymore its too mongy, makes you twitch too much and made you fell yuk after a binge. Addictive no , moreish yes. But still it is something to be careful of as with all chemicals.
3 summer daze and lu doves have a very similar background feeling, the active mind , chattiness and a similar buzz to that we got from butylone, but of course the daze and lu dove arent just one chemical. But id like to open it up to anyone who has enough of both to give their veiw on it. I didnt say i knew thats what was in them but it was a similar feel.
Im sorry i trod on your toes as the on who knows all but im sure i wont be here long and you can get back to being the all knowing sage or should that be all knowing salvia, lol topical joke for those in the know. heheh
I know someone who has been to court for a sub coca, which was found in his flat when they busted a grow. The police marked it down as an illegal cathinone analogue and it was all part of his charge sheet.
Fair enough I know people who have had a very different experience to you from the Sub Cocas but I may be wrong. Its not impossible 😉
Sorry I forgot the Summer Daze but they are the same thing esentially just the SD is slightly weaker.
Anyway most of this comes from an inherent dislike for neorganics. They sell poorly labeled products without warning people they are in fact illegal, putting people and businesses at risk. Imagine what would happen to a head shop if it got discovered to have 500 capsules that could turn out to be class A. Its a bit of a fuckin dodgy one.
Sry about that, it was fun having a bit of a discussion. Why didnt the person you knew who got busted say it was plant food, thats what every one else says and especially if he was growing stuff too. hehehe
And everyones entittled to their opinions on things. To be honest we take our legals at home, they are perfect for that.
They analysed the capsules as he claimed they were legal, which turned out to not be the case.
Now I heard about these diablo-xxx which are red and apparently fucking powerful and I found them but they were for plants only and not for human consumption.
So keep trying till you find the right one.
Ask around too to see which ones are the best.
My friend said these diablos were pretty nice and energetic, sounded quite expensive for what they are but apparently only 1 is needed. They contain DMAA.
Hehe make sure you keep your plant well watered…
Hehe make sure you keep your plant well watered…
Theres more than just DMAA in them as its pretty mild on its own.
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