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Count yourself lucky that legal highs still exist in your country. We have a set of all encompassing laws which shuts down the loop hole you guys are currently exploiting. Irrespective of the molecular structure, if it resembles a class drug, even if it is only the intention of the effects, it’s instantly classed. This even catches pro drugs
They are considering that here.
Yeah way to go Australia! Screw it for the rest of the world
i think its always been illegal to be intoxicated in a public place in England for centuries going back to common law; its just that the substances in use change over the years..
Different places have their own laws on that ib the UK GL but yeah if you’re way to pissed to walk or being abusive you will ve arrested fior drunk and disorderly.
@Tryptameanie 591325 wrote:
Different places have their own laws on that ib the UK GL but yeah if you’re way to pissed to walk or being abusive you will ve arrested fior drunk and disorderly.
I used to have various books about laws like this and there were all sorts of penalties depending which parish you ended up in.
The one thing that makes “catch all” laws difficult for the UK is we do still have an active well respected chemical industry – often in small random places in the North with the companies owned by Singapore Chinese; as our chemists tend to be older; and not as reckless as 20 year old Chinese kids who would divert half the stuff to making hard drugs or worse, even ISIL etc if the money was right; or just “brow up entire prace to matchstick”. The boffins make all sorts of random stuff; its often things like paint or normal pharmaceuticals we take for granted.
It is bad enough with some of the regulations and paperwork regarding normal chemicals used in the electronics industry and general maintenance work.
passing “catch all” laws would mean even more stuff needs licenses, inspections, secure storage, paperwork etc and thus pushes up the cost of work not just for the pharm industry but every industry using chemicals. I suspect this is also why blended NPS remain tolerated as regulating them more could mean that companies who make things like drain cleaner incur extra costs to their businesses and the current UK governments are wary of creating a backlash by doing that.
We could potentially end up inna situation whith amazing capalites like being rhe 1st cure for something, that can’t ever easily be looked at because of a stupid law banning it’s possession/manufacture etc with GOV licenses n good luck getting them already.
So drinking tea, coffee and energy drink is out, as is cigarettes, cigars, pipes and snuff…….Air should be made illegal, it’s far worse for you than drugs, come to think of it, life is the worst for your health….LETS BAN LIFE TO SAVE PEOPLE!
@Tryptameanie 591331 wrote:
We could potentially end up inna situation whith amazing capalites like being rhe 1st cure for something, that can’t ever easily be looked at because of a stupid law banning it’s possession/manufacture etc with GOV licenses n good luck getting them already.
whilst we don’t want to go back to pre NHS days where the poor basically got these OTC to self medicate and often to painlessly end their lives at relatively early ages when they felt it no longer worth living (and this could be in their 30s and 40s) its bad enough already; lots of effective preparations against hay fever / allergies are removed due to diversion risk (amfetamines are also an effective treatment against the summer nastions) and poor old granny ladies have to sometimes have reduced doses of their heroin and benzos (which they often genuinely need for chronic pain and anxisety) if thera pharmacy/prescribing error due to the regulations (everythng has to be sent via analogue fax machine and one local pharmacy shares a single fax, voice phone and broadband circuit – or a new doc is worried about being audited for loose prescription….
Unreal isn’t it. If they are asking for prescribing numbers then surely they must correspond to the number of patients requiring said meds so why don’t those figures add up and we have a problem?
Do NHS bosses only get hired if their analytical skills are as good as Greorge Osbornes?
What a stupid ban. Who openly abuses legal highs? I’ve never seen it happen… I see NOS dealers in central LDN but that’s not even a legal high, inhaling NOS is misusing a product. Maybe in Lincoln there’s a culture of kids using legal highs openly, now they’ll just do it discreetly, not really fussed to be honest.
Even if the UK as a poster said in here followed AUS law and banned all legal substances and RCs from Etizolam to Kratom it’d make no odds to me. I’d be a little bit let down as Kratom is a good thing to buy locally as it’s a great substance to use to detox from Opiates. I’m guessing 99% of the RCs in this country are not produced in the UK, because I’ve never seen a UK vendor sell anything cheap unlike China for example, these chemicals are actually not expensive especially when bought in Kilos from Asian countries. I know the prices because I’ve been quoted how much things like Methylone, Mephedrone, 2C-I cost from legit labs in China and it’s not much in comparison to how much they go for here. It’s just are you willing to pay the penalty for importation of a kilo of a class A drug, you could spend a long time in prison.
@p0lski 591404 wrote:
What a stupid ban. Who openly abuses legal highs?.
Chavs, after they get back from heremy kyle.
@Tryptameanie 591388 wrote:
Unreal isn’t it. If they are asking for prescribing numbers then surely they must correspond to the number of patients requiring said meds so why don’t those figures add up and we have a problem?
Do NHS bosses only get hired if their analytical skills are as good as Greorge Osbornes?
the figures do usually add up; its just that the information isn’t always transmitted as quickly as it should be and not all GP surgeries in the area are fully computerised.
when the NHS and private healthcare organisations trusted their staff more; diversion of benzos and other similar stuff was so rife it was affecting patient safety as the staff were working under the influence of them. worst one was a charge nurse in a SE England ED injecting ketamine whilst doing his rounds.
it came to a head when harold shipman got addicted to diverted class A’s and then decided to randomly kill a proportion of his patients and there was more recently another young NHS recruit who started “experimenting” on elderly patients.
@General Lighting 591500 wrote:
the figures do usually add up; its just that the information isn’t always transmitted as quickly as it should be and not all GP surgeries in the area are fully computerised.
when the NHS and private healthcare organisations trusted their staff more; diversion of benzos and other similar stuff was so rife it was affecting patient safety as the staff were working under the influence of them. worst one was a charge nurse in a SE England ED injecting ketamine whilst doing his rounds.
it came to a head when harold shipman got addicted to diverted class A’s and then decided to randomly kill a proportion of his patients and there was more recently another young NHS recruit who started “experimenting” on elderly patients.
Gonna send you a PM GL if that;s OK?
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