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    Decided to cut to the chase and just format my HDD and try out Kubuntu as it should be.

    Installation went fine. Booted fine but then I just get a blank screen with a cursor and nothing else. Tried 3 times and still the same result.

    Any ideas Linux heads? Did I install the wrong one? I used the AMD64 version. I guessed this was the version I should use as I have an 64 bit AMD cpu.

    I’m happy to just to start again and bung XP back on, but I’d like to get this Kubuntu working if I can, just to see what it’s like.

    I’ve made some massive progress. I decided to try booting in to Kubuntu using the Live CD.

    Now I get a blank blue screen with a cursor!

    I tried it in safe graphics mode and got the same result. I’m beginning to think I should give this up as a bad idea.

    Did it ask you to do anything before the blank screen? or just go to blank immediately?

    Any Ubuntu heads out there able to help?

    Sounds to me like there’s a problem with the driver for your Graphics adapter…Does your computer have ‘onboard’ graphics? if so which chipset? Also if you have a proper graphics card which make is it? If it’s ATI then they are very poorly supported as far as I know…

    I can probably help if you have an nVidia card as this happens to me every time I install my ‘distro’ (SuSE),,,

    Whenever I install Linux with my graphics card I get a weird fuzzy blue screen…What I do is:

    A:) Press ctrl+alt+F1 to switch to the text mode console

    B:) Log in as root and switch to runlevel 3 (this stops the graphical interface) by typing ‘init 3

    (you might need to tap return to get your prompt back)

    C:)Then I get the nVidia drivers…you can do this by downloading them on another computer and putting them on disk, or using a command like ‘wget‘ to download them directly from the nVidia website…

    D:)Once the nVidia executable is on my drive I simply run it…I need to have the Kernel source code installed so that the installer can build the drivers, but I understand that this is not always the case….If you dont have the Kernel source installed you will need to install it now…

    E:) Finally stick the system back into full graphical mode by typing ‘init 5‘ And your graphics should be working fine…

    Like I said before Linux is definately not without it’s issues in terms of hardware support (add ATi cards to my list!)…Other problems arise when trying to help another user who uses a different ‘distro’. Quite often each distro takes a radically different approach to building up a working system, so my year or so of solidly using SuSE for my everyday computing may be worthless when it comes to helping an ‘Ubuntu’ or ‘Debian’ or ‘Fedora Core’ user

    It’s not just the filesystem layouts that vary between distros, but also the package management systems…SuSE and Fedora use .RPM files; Debian and Ubuntu use .DEB files…Both systems can seem very very confusing to new users who have been pampered by the simple ‘double click on installer.exe’ type software installation found on WIndows…

    Remember that ‘Linux’ itself is just the ‘kernel’ – the foundation that the rest of these very disparate systems sit precariously on top of…It’s certainly not a fully working operating system in itself. That’s why I’d recommend using a Live CD for your chosen distro (heck, try a few!) before making the install, then maybe you can figure out the learning curve on potential sticking points, like getting on the net and problems with your graphics….

    As for x86 vs. x86_64 – I’ve ran the 64 bit version of SuSE for about 8 months now, and it’s caused way more problems that it’s solved…The only reason that I haven’t switched back to 32 bit is because I’ve got the 64 bit install CD’s lying around and I’m always too lazy to download the 32 bit ones again… 😉

    Raj: It just goes straight to blank screen.

    Arawan: Thanks for the lengthy reply mate!

    I don’t have onboard graphics and my card is an Nvidia 7800GT.

    The problem is that although the keyboard has power and functions before the blank screen it stops functioning when I get to the blank screen with cursor. There is still power running to it but I cannot open up a terminal or command line using Shift-Alt-F1

    After doing a bit of digging I’ve found two possible culprits.

    1: My keyboard and mouse are both USB and I’ve seen one forum mention that Ubuntu sometimes has issues with USB devices. Unfortunately I don’t have any PS/2 mice or keyboards here to test.

    2: I’ve also seen it mentioned that Linux has issues with some Sata drive chipsets. I only use SATA and don’t have IDE drives.

    So something is making the system hang (although I can still move the cursor around) and the keyboard is not functioning. Until I can sort that then I can go no further.

    I might just go back to XP as all this might be above my head.

    I’m going to split this thread as it’s going a little bit off topic.

    Hmmm…I’ve never had trouble with SATA or USB – they’ve worked out the box for me every time…are you totally sure the system is just hanging completely….if the mouse is still able to move that would suggest that the system is still responsive to some degree

    like I say it’s CTRL+ALT+F1 to switch vt’s (and should be on every UNIX type sytem afaik)

    Arawn wrote:
    Hmmm…I’ve never had trouble with SATA or USB – they’ve worked out the box for me every time…are you totally sure the system is just hanging completely….if the mouse is still able to move that would suggest that the system is still responsive to some degree

    like I say it’s CTRL+ALT+F1 to switch vt’s (and should be on every UNIX type sytem afaik)

    Sorry, I meant ctrl+alt+f1. I’ve tried ctrl+alt+backspace to step back too but no joy.

    I’m not 100% sure the system is hanging but there is no response from the keyboard. Caps & Num lock do not light up etc. I left the screen for 3 or 4 minutes to see if anything happened but there seems to be no life at all. The CD stops reading and there is no HDD activity.

    bah, nae luck…wish I could be of more help…

    It’s ok. I appreciate the effort.

    Do you think it’s worth trying some of the other systems? Or am I likely to run in to the same problem. I’ve already downloaded 3 versions of kubuntu/ubuntu so I don’t want to go too mad as I do have a download cap.

    It does sound to me like your gfx card is causing the main amount of bother although I could be wrong…Ubuntu and SuSE are open-source puritans and this is pretty much the reason why you don’t find proper nVidia drivers and proprietory video and sound codecs in their defualt install…I do have one or two live CD suggestions:

    One live CD to try is Sabayon Linux…It’s a Gentoo based live CD that I recall that working with my nVidia 6800 chip-based card without any configuration…There seems to be quite an enthusiastic group of developers and users behind the project already. At the boot menu type ‘sabayon xgl‘ to start it up with a full Beryl/Xgl desktop (dodgy screenshot below).

    Linux Mint
    is one I haven’t tried, but I like the sound of it…It’s a tweaked version of Ubuntu and they are going for a more refined desktop feel and aren’t shy of including those vital non-open-source drivers+codecs…

    Read http://www.distrowatch.org every once in a while and see if anything on there takes your fancy as well – they keep track of where pretty much every Linux distro, (and *BSD) is at development wise.

    sabayon.png

    Niiice 8)

    Im very tempted to install it just to play with the XGL / Beryl fancyness 🙂

    Right i have Linux Mint on the download and as i have 2 hard rives in my PC, I wanted to make it duel boot so i can have a play and see what i think of Linux Mint. Well i want to keep XP running on the computer so i don’t get stuck with the compatibility problems i am bound to encounter.

    Is there anything i have to do to make sure i get both the booting options? I don’t want to fuck up my computer like i did when i went and installed Vista a while ago.

    Never used Linux Mint and its noticeably different to the old copy of Ubuntu I used. This should help you more than my ramblings could….

    http://linuxgazette.net/136/lazar.html

    Cheers,

    I think i kind of understand it, hopefully i don’t balls it up…

    Any problems give us a shout. I have a spare HDD so I might just give it a shot myself as something to do.

    Can get up to some uber geekery again.

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