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April 7, 2008 at 11:47 pm

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JonnyQuest

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i wholeheartedly disagree nwith you glo, your plan is nice inall if the plan was to find the best way to let the kid get away with it
April 8, 2008 at 12:22 am

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globalloon

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JonnyQuest wrote:

i wholeheartedly disagree nwith you glo, your plan is nice inall if the plan was to find the best way to let the kid get away with it

you’re entitled to your opinion

all i’m saying is that I have 23 (sp) years experience of dealing with children and young people who are deemed ‘in need’ (under the definition of the Children’s Act) because they are either in social service care, or have an order against them by the youth crime prevention service

and in my experience, smacking this child would be a negative thing, for everyone involved

i’d be interested to hear more about how your plan would work though
April 8, 2008 at 2:01 am

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Torrent

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djprocess wrote:

If my younger brother was being a little prick and got a slap and i knew it was becasue my bro was being a cock i wouldnt really have an issue with it personally.
There is obviously a difference between giving someone a couple of digs to show them your not a soft touch to totally going psycho with a bat tho. Sounds like the kid in question needs a hefty clout round the ear or a bucket of piss thrown over him!

I’ve got to say I agree with you here, when I was young I used to be a bit of a shit, I never went round harassing people in thier own home but I did think I was the big man and used to give verbal abuse to blokes alot older and bigger than me thinking that they’d never hit me back. Eventually I learnt my lesson after they did hit me back, it took a few times for me to learn but I got there in the end. These days I’m the least abusive/violent person I know, infact I hate fighting and avoid situations that lead to it.

Anyway as it goes I’m not going to hit him, although I think maybe a dead leg or two might do him some good, then again it could just make things 10 times worse and result in a brick through the window or police involvement. Also going by what Globalloon has said I don’t think I’ll try restraining him either as I have a clean record and I wish to keep it that way, I guess what I’ll do is just leave it and see how things pan out. If I can find out where he lives by maybe having words with some of the other kids in the area then I’ll have words with his parents, otherwise I spose I’ll leave it to the police for now.

Anyway cheers to everyone for all your input, I should be offski :yawn: .
April 8, 2008 at 2:02 am

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Torrent

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Whoopsi, double post.
April 8, 2008 at 12:24 pm

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Joker78

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globalloon wrote:

it sounds to me like there’s a whole load of machismo shite being spoken here :you_crazy

apart from the fact that all the evidence from sociological & psychological studies as well as experiences in the penal system show that brutalising people makes the problem worse

children (and he is a child) respond well to clear, fair boundaries. when they don’t get that (particularly at home), they get messed up.

unless he is clinically psychopathic there’s no reason he wouldn’t respond to normal communication or a positive intervention

I don’t know why he’s chosen to kick your door, so just a few tips

if you hit him, you are likely to end up with a serious criminal charge and a lifelong record on the child offenders register. if you attempt a ‘citizen arrest’, be aware that you can only do so in self defence. self defence can also include a reasonable fear that the person you are arresting is going to inflict serious physical harm on someone else immediately unless you intervene. unless you are trained in restraining techniques specific to children, anything you do in a struggle has an increased chance of causing a grevious injury (i.e fracturing a bone) compared to an adult

if him kicking your door and giving your parents verbal is genuinely causing distress (and it sounds like it is) you should; keep a diary of every incident; ask neighbours if they have witnessed any incidents and if so, ask them to write down what they saw (just sticking to the facts, leave out any opinions about the kid); and keep ringing the police… dialling 999 because a kid kicked your door is unlikely to get any response, so call your local police call centre, find out who is your local beat and get them round to explain what has been happening, show them your diary of dates, any witnesses etc. chances are he’s “known” to local cops already, he may already have a youth crime prevention worker assigned to him. these trained professionals are far better to deal with him than you

taking matters into your own hands will just escalate the situation and place you a long way on the wrong side of the law.

basically, smacking anyone is the sure sign of a throwback, no matter how how wound up you get. take a deep breath. he’s just a fucked up little kid. don’t make matters a whole shade worse for yourself by acting on adrenalin. use your head

good luck and let us know how it goes :group_hug

Glo, you have presented the soundest advice on this thread. While giving the brat a beating might be tempting it is illegal to beat the the crap out of people and also not very nice. Chucking water on someone is also deemed as common assault. I would also venture that if you ignore him he will probably tire of his little campaign, get bored and go away of his own accord eventually.

If you could follow him back to his home address it may be worth talking to his parents about the problem.

As Glo suggests, keep a record of dates, witnesses etc and call the cops everytime it happens.

Good luck
April 8, 2008 at 12:44 pm

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process

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i do agree with glo on this (even tho it slightly contradictes my earlier posts:hopeless:), my dads been a social worker/social care manager for probably about the same time as glo was saying he’s been involved (dont mean to make you feel old:wink:) I know violence never solves anything. And i was a horrible little shit with loads of issues when i was a kid and my dad cause of his training helped me sort out my issues and stop being such a angry prick. i think i was feeling angry about my own issue with my neighbour when i wrote the advice about giving him a kicking.:crazy_diz
Ive got this on going issue where the bitch next to us always pretty much every evening she comes back from the pub and shouts abuse and bangs against the wall from when she gets home to when she goes to sleep. This has been going on since sept!:hopeless: we finally called the cops, environmental health etc just before christmas. Environmental health did sound recording, police took statements from me and my g/f. The woman got arrested and was on bail for a week. CPS didnt take the case tho. so all that hassle has been for nowt. Fucking pissed off to be honest esp after the constant calls to the cops even one 999 call from g/f cause she was that scared. Obviously taking shit into your own hands is only going to land you in more trouble, but the police are fucking shit, they were really nice and helpfull and understanding, but they couldnt do anything cause she is doing it in her own house.
Not really sure what my point is, i hope it works out for you tho.good luck

any advice people have got for me and where i can go from here would also be greatly appreciated. Sorry i dont want to hijak the thread. Maybe PM me if anyones got any ideas…

thanks
April 8, 2008 at 2:45 pm

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DaftFader

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yeah glo is right ..alltho beating the crap out of them is tempting probably wouldn’t solve the issue
April 8, 2008 at 3:23 pm

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GiantMidget

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DaftFader wrote:

yeah glo is right ..alltho beating the crap out of them is tempting probably wouldn’t solve the issue

Unless you blind him but thats a bit harsh. If we’re being silly now find out where he lives and leave him a flaming bag of poo. 😉
April 8, 2008 at 6:26 pm

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DaftFader

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DJCliffy wrote:

Unless you blind him but thats a bit harsh. If we’re being silly now find out where he lives and leave him a flaming bag of poo. 😉

lol :laugh_at:…ring on his doorbell and run off .. when he goes to stamp out the flaming bad he steps in poo haha … classic … what films that off again i forgot 😥
April 8, 2008 at 6:27 pm

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DaftFader

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DJCliffy wrote:

Unless you blind him but thats a bit harsh. If we’re being silly now find out where he lives and leave him a flaming bag of poo. 😉

lol :laugh_at:…ring on his doorbell and run off .. when he goes to stamp out the flaming bag he steps in poo haha … classic … what films that off again i forgot 😥
August 24, 2008 at 9:18 pm

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finbar

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DaftFader;208958 wrote:

lol :laugh_at:…ring on his doorbell and run off .. when he goes to stamp out the flaming bag he steps in poo haha … classic … what films that off again i forgot 😥

It’s off the simpsons, they do it to Principle Skinner!

Quote –“If matey were to smash that kid up then use of a balaclava is advisable. It’s more frightening and that way he won’t know who done it and everyone is a suspect. He’ll realise that someone he offended beat him but won’t know who. That should put him straight!”
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Someone I knew (complete twat) was coming home from a night on the piss one night and a group of blokes in balaclavas got out of a car and knocked the shit out of him with baseball bats. He had no idea who it was that he’d offended (he offends quite a lot of people) and, tbh, he still behaves in exactly the same way he did before.
August 25, 2008 at 10:29 am

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DaftFader

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finbar;232797 wrote:

It’s off the simpsons, they do it to Principle Skinner!

Quote –“If matey were to smash that kid up then use of a balaclava is advisable. It’s more frightening and that way he won’t know who done it and everyone is a suspect. He’ll realise that someone he offended beat him but won’t know who. That should put him straight!”
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Someone I knew (complete twat) was coming home from a night on the piss one night and a group of blokes in balaclavas got out of a car and knocked the shit out of him with baseball bats. He had no idea who it was that he’d offended (he offends quite a lot of people) and, tbh, he still behaves in exactly the same way he did before.

lol is your sig about dog siht by any chance? :yakk::laugh_at:
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