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  • What does coke and MDMA do to you in the long term run? I am particularly talking about very occasional use or one time use.

    Do they premenantly give you brain damage?

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    obviously not good for your brain but its more of a value judgement of how much risk you’re willing to take with your cognative function, i doubt anyone is gonna come along and tell you they are totally benign or that they are taking ice cream scoops out of your grey matter.

    it’d be cool to know your status with the drugs atm i.e. current/former/never used

    I only know of one partial study of a long term MDMA user who had reliably taken 10 pills or more per day. He seemed to have severe memory loss and big problems with cognitive function. The study was only partial as the man stopped attending.

    While I know of no evidence that infrequent use does any damage that doesn’t mean it doesn’t do anything bad.

    Here’s what Shulgin said on the matter.

    MDMA & Brain Holes | Ask Dr. Shulgin Online

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      how long did she sniff coke, du u have an info on the meaning “long term” in years??? this photo is extreme, i had sniff coke 5 years long intensely between 20 and 25 an stopped it cuz my noise was blooding and burning at the end.

      Also i was receiving the staff pure and even fresh and i think there was a bit acid used to transform from the pasta to the cocain left, like maybe chloro acid or acetone (i don’t know exactly, but each time we had to put under a lamp cuz the coke was a tiny wet to evaporate the coke to dry it completly. But we weren’t able to wait that’s was dry and it seems sniffing it as long it wasn’t completly dry was the cause of this burning in the noise.

      i passed after that to freebase, and even 20 years later , my noise is always cold even in summer. For the MDMA, Ionly heard once it is bad for the stomack. would be interest for mor specific info if u have

      She used for years, used to be a soap star that quickly became an addict.

      I have only ever tried weed and booze (a bit).

      When I say long term I mean weeks, years and lifetime.

      Then the answer is potentially yes but it seems to take an extreme amount but no changes in the brain have been noted.

      No way will a one off cause damage, unless you take too much, and even then that would be a temporary thing, unless you overdose. Taking mdma too often causes serotonin syndrome, memory problems, brain zaps, anxiety and paranoia. And coke, well it’s just one hell of a addictive drug, but in the long run abusing coke won’t fuck your head up nowhere near as much as mdma abuse. General rule of thumb to taking mdma to minimize long term side effects is taking it once a month, but personally I do it just a few times a year. I know a fair few e-tards and trust me, it’s an amazing drug but is nasty when taking it too often.

      I do not think either can cause permanent brain damage, although excessive use does cause mental health problems such as impulsive (and even aggressive) behaviour especially on comedowns and/or when drugs are short in supply due to arrests/busts of dealers. This causes a vicious circle as crime goes up and more folk get arrested, which even legalisation/tolerance can’t immediately solve as the mental health problems could still remain and they affect others than the patient.

      When I was taking all those more regularly and much more besides around 2002; me and a mate had to build a router / firewall for a shared house out of a old PC, as the cable company just gave you a modem and putting the raw internet into a network is about as wise as drinking a great glass from the WC bowl.

      We had to use parts we that had been tatted/hoarded since late 1990s, it ran on Linux which was only just invented and it was based around a particularly complex distro (not like todays easy Debian or Centos etc). I had last used Unix in 1992, when I had also been doing a lot of MDMA; and had stopped learning about it after being put out of University for hacking; yet just about remembered how to make it work.

      Unfortunately my friend later ended his life by accident because of a bad decision he made when on drugs (for his families sake I won’t explain this further as doing so will make it easy to identify him) and the way I behaved then I was lucky not to end up in prison at least once, I came close enough on occasions.

      the usage patterns john420 recommends are about right; especially if any of you have anglo-saxon society (in UK or USA) to contend with.

      Must be going back to the days when Linus wrote the kernel for GNU no?

      @Requiem 598551 wrote:

      Must be going back to the days when Linus wrote the kernel for GNU no?

      only a few years after, although this software could actually have been a BSD-based kernel (which looks like Linux and works similarly but is different licensing) or even a bizzare combination of bits of both which had been hand picked and coded in C. it was written in some other small North European country [possibly Denmark or Norway, with the Germans contributing to it] where they also had the same cable network and a more developed culture of young people living in shared/communal houses and/or visiting them.

      The base motherboard was something like a 486 that would otherwise gone into a drawer of ”junk components” as no one wanted such an ancient machine for running GUI operating systems (better components were used for 3 other communal PCs in that downstairs room, and a cable and switch put upstairs for the long term residents)

      the house became well known as a good place to get defective computers fixed; and was the base for organising a lot of warehouse parties, it was also right in the middle of the town where Microsoft, Oracle and many other smaller tech companies were based, so their younger employees would often divert various bits of equipment to contribute to the network – a bit like the mainland European ”hackerspace”. At that time neither myself nor my friend could then get legitimate jobs using any of our knowledge as we didn’t have university degrees (even many of the people in the tech compaines were in the same situation, being put on to call centre work) which was some factor in us doing yet more drugs and getting into more trouble.

      where do these daft ideas of brain damage come from?

      Republicans.

      @Digital Buddha 598590 wrote:

      where do these daft ideas of brain damage come from?

      a flawed US experiment from the 1990s/early2000s where some monkeys and apes were given doses of a substance which was supposed to be MDMA, but in fact turned out to be methamfetamine.

      what was even worse is that the species used are classed on UN red list as endangered and are not supposed to be used any more for these unpleasant experiments.

      TBH the only drug users I am aware of with brain damage have got it from either getting into fights on comedowns and being knocked on the head, or crashing vehicles due to DUI. Both of which are not a direct consequence of drug use and are avoidable.

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