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I’m not dying or anything, and i didn’t have a heart attack like that other poor fella (hope you are ok friend) but i recently took some MDAI and am still feeling the effects, in an unpleasant way, 3 days later.
In summary, the after effects are frequent pulses, which come in groups of one to about 6 or so a few times every minute, with an accompanying dizzyness. It is constant, and will not be lessened with alcohol. It makes sleep difficult, both getting to sleep and staying asleep.
The ‘pulses’ feel like pressure of some kind in the head and face, or even pulses of electricity. They are mild but worrying, and come with a disconcerting feeling of sinking inside, especially in the face, behind the nose, cheekbones, and inside the skull. It is not painful. The heart is not beating faster, but seems to beat harder than usual, but could be my imagination. When i lie down to sleep, or relax in any way, I can almost hear the pulses when they come, and feel them more intensely, as a sort of tightening feeling in my face and head.
It won’t go away. It is now Sunday morning 11.25. I first took half a gram (dissolved in coffee, disgusting taste but great buzz half an hour later) on Thursday lunchtime, about midday. I then took another 0.35 of a gram in the same way, at lunchtime the next day, Friday. So 0.85 of a gram total over 24 hours. I had come down by friday night, or so i thought, because the main effects had worn off by about 9 that evening. But here I am 36 hours and 2 sleeps later with no lessening of after effects. They were there when I woke up, exactly the same as when I was trying to sleep 8 or more hours ago.
I am 5’10”, and 73 kilos, slim toned athletic. Frequent cyclist. 35 years old. I have done extacy and coke before and after effects have been spaced out for ex, and shitty for coke (im not a fan of coke but i like ex) but have never lasted this long, or been as sharp.
So, is it just me? Let me know, please. I promise I will follow up this thread with a conclusion in a couple of weeks, hopefully to tell you how long it took for the after effects to disappear. I won’t be taking MDAI again, even though i like it and have some left. I never post on here usually, it was just the first site that came up when I typed MDAI review into google, but I have read a few posts and you seem like thoughtful people who like getting high, like me in other words.
luv bryan
I know the post was long and negative, don’t like posting that sort of thing. But i’m still like it.
It’s now sunday evening at half 10. I took MDAI last at lunchtime on Friday. These symptoms have not changed since Saturday morning.
It doesn’t hurt. It is slightly paranoia – inducing but not too bad. It is constant, a few groups of pulses every minute. It seems to be stimulating if anything as I have been prone to doing things, rather than just watching tv. TV seems dumb all of a sudden, but it is ok in small doses.
I’m way more jumpy. Booze seems to enhance it rather than dull it. Need to be doing something, anything. Still want to talk to people, but doesn’t have to be immediately, like when on the drug itself.
There has been no reduction in intensity of after -effects after 48 hours. I hope I’m a one – off.
i often feel a bit funky, it is just what happens when you take drugs so i dont think much of it (but obviously u have to be careful and not ignore certain things) but i think you’ll be fine, probs just a bit paranoid a bit it like u say
stick around anyway geezer i like the cut of your jib!
Dodgy research chems man. Steer clear.
I had a rather unpleasant AMT experience the other week. I’ll stick to the mushies and K man.
Looks like i may have Brain Zaps, from reading on the internet, which are something to do with sudden comedowns from seretonin drugs like mdai or mdma. I have read that Tryptophan may help, you can buy it from health food shops. I’ll give it a go later today, because though I think they are lessening slightly, it is only slightly. It’s now Tuesday morning at half 4 and i’m getting brain zapped with a bit less intensity a few times a minute still, with accompanying brief dizzyness, and it’s the same whether I’m moving around or sitting or whatever. The zaps can last a week apparently, or even longer in some cases, but I haven’t read about anyone having them for life so hopefully I won’t be the first.
Thanks special_brew, might have a tin of that later ha ha although alcohol seems to if anything make the effect of the zaps more noticable. I’m not paranoid, it’s everyone else 🙂
Thanks Crispydelic, might give these dodgy legals a wide berth from now on, though they are still tempting. Interested in your AMT experience, I was thinking of trying that at some point.
Hi korno, it was a user on this site called Uposcao who had a heart attack, described in a post called “MDAI WARNING READ!”. I did read it, before trying MDAI, and then tried it anyway. So much for trying to help others Uposcao, but thanks for trying and once again hope you are ok 🙂
Allright, my mate just had a heart attack a few weeks ago, we don’t know what caused it but we do know he would sit by the door rubbing his hands together, waiting for the postman every Tuesday afternoon. He’s got addicted to trying such a wide variety of legal highs and so we figure it had deffo something to do with that.
It won’t be the same guy otherwise he would have made known to me that he’s on this site.
Hope you’re feeling better? It’s a gamble with your life using these bloomin legal highs, surely you know that you consumers of these are the guinee pigs?!
I got L-tryptophan once because i wanted to try and lift up my serotonin levels beings i burn them out with my heavy speed usage. When i took the trypto after about an hour in it made my body feel a bit uncomfortable and i could hardly focus it affected my vision like hefty bad and made everything blurry, i was trying to read a book and then suddenly i couldn’t, I hadn’t taken any other drugs or anything.
I’ve never suffered from actual voices in my head before (I’ve audio-tripped as most people have probably experienced) but that’s different. And I was getting voices with L-trypto
I dunno why this happened to me so just be aware of that if you go buy tryptophan.
Let us know how things go 🙂
So how are you feelingtoday, 3 days in?
@bryanWatford 554197 wrote:
Thanks Crispydelic, might give these dodgy legals a wide berth from now on, though they are still tempting. Interested in your AMT experience, I was thinking of trying that at some point.
I wouldn’t bother to be honest. All of the best RCs have been banned. The only reason I can think of that AMT isn’t is that once you do it, you don’t want to bother again.
The duration is WAY to long and the body load is tremendous.
Seriously, illegals are safer and better (see the irony there Government?).
I don’t know a single person that has done it again after doing it honestly bryan that’ stuff is notfuckingright . com!
what bryan has got are the same symptoms you would get from taking normal street stimulants (indeed at age 35 I would have been similar in physical fitness althougha bit shorter). it is possible the MDAI also contained MPA or another stimulant, things like this often get cross contaminated by accident.
the “legal” highs are just analogues of more illegal drugs and still have all (if not more) of the side effects and comedowns. The “best” ones got banned as they were making people more ill than the illegal ones.
You can stil get good stuff to keep you awake, or to make you sleep whilst at the same time leading a normal life (work/education), and I suspect the Govt know this well and are deliberately dragging their heels to almost create “stealth legalisation” without necessarily encouraging a new underground culture (don’t forget many politicians are our age). I reckon its what returned Royal Mail to profit and allowed the privatisation as their profit rise coincides with a decline in sending letters for mail and the “drugs by post” market
AMT has pretty patterns but is very rough on the stomach and has too long recovery time.
That said I am not sure if many of the chemicals themselves are that dodgy but their widespread and regular avaiability encourages binge use (or people think taking more makes the good effects of a “weaker” chemical stronger – it does not but just poisons you), whereas the higher cost and sporadic availability of controlled substances tended to make folk conserve their supplies a bit more.
if you will take these things, it is best to find one or two that agree with you and stick to them rather than combine odd combinations of stimulants and depressants, as that will eventually land you in the Emergency Department.
Hi korno, Chris, same really no change but it is lessening in intensity if anything. Just very slowly.
Thanks, I def won’t bother with AMT, that’s all i wanted to hear. The MDAI high was really good I enjoyed it, that’s what is most annoying, even though it wasn’t as good as MDMA. I have read people say they take MDAI regularly though, one in particular on a yankee forum, and he also got the brain zaps. I’m dumb enough to take it again if the zaps wear off this time.
I heard about L – 5 – Hydroxy Tryptophan from Wikipedia – it says that anecdotal evidence suggests that it can help with after effects from seretonin drugs. Didn’t know that speed could reduce seretonin, I’ll remember that, though never could get on with it. I took one at about 1, then just took another one for the hell of it about 4pm. Oops. Should have looked at this thread first. I guess I thought that since it comes from a health food shop (H&B) it won’t get me fucked. Let’s see what happens. nothing so far, and it’s been several hours.
I know what you mean about dodgy RCs and legals, but… just because something is illegal, doesn’t make it right…. Always wanted to say that, it sounds crazy.
I really want to stay legal, I’m the sort of twat who would get locked up for some silly mistake like looking a bit mashed and getting searched at exactly the wrong moment. I know it’s dodgy being a guneiee pig however you spell it, but it’s a calculated risk because I wouldn’t like prison, and I really want the MDMA effect, which i love. Hope your mate is ok now.
@General Lighting 554204 wrote:
if you will take these things, it is best to find one or two that agree with you and stick to them rather than combine odd combinations of stimulants and depressants, as that will eventually land you in the Emergency Department.
i agree with this part especially; mixing drugs isn’t a good idea, especially if you haven’t tried either of them. If you are on a drug, and want to do another one, especially if you have never tried it, take just a small amount if you really have to.
It will be nice when someone invents ” Risk Free Drug Taking” General Lighting, I’ll be there to sign up! Maybe the MDAI was a mixture, but the website had some good reviews, and i researched the effects, and I believe it was pure on this basis.
Do you know of these symptoms? I’d be very interested to hear. Street stims to me means coke or speed, or ex i suppose. Do you know of these symptoms associated with these drugs?
Yes all of the symptoms that you describe can also be attributed to “street” stims.
@Chrispydelic 554207 wrote:
Yes all of the symptoms that you describe can also be attributed to “street” stims.
So you think that these brain zaps, or pulses as i described them in the first post, can also be caused by coke or speed? Even when they last days afterwards?
What makes you think that? did you read it, experience it, or know someone who it happened to?
Well firstly, like some of the other more senior members on this board I have been taking recreational drugs since the late 1980s’. So I have been there on the scene through the beginnings of rave culture up until now, which gives me a wealth of practical experience.
Secondly, we now have the internet which has a wealth of information in terms of actions, interactions, experiences, symptoms and side effects. Erowid is particularly useful. (mods, please edit if I am not supposed to post links to there).
Yes, your so called “brain zaps”, serotonin syndrome Serotonin syndrome – Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia, tachycardia as well as a wealth of other unpleasant symptoms can be attributed to stims of every kind and in some cases may persist for days (if you are unlucky (or lucky depending on your point of view) maybe much longer)).
It’s good to be in the know about the things that you are putting into your body.
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