MDMA burn out!

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November 2, 2007 at 11:06 pm

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party on

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hi all

just wondered if anybody who posts here had ,had any problems with over use of mdma etc etc

personally ive done pills for about 15 years on and off and to be honest my short term memory is pathetic to say the least .i also have problems reading columns of numbers to .dunno if this is down to smoking weed daily or its down to eating to many pills over the years as allegedly serotonin in the brain is depleted pretty much every time you take a pill or whatever…

does anyone else suffer from anything similar or from other stuff like depression, insomnia, etc, etc,

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November 2, 2007 at 11:14 pm

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globalloon

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weed rags your memory badly
November 3, 2007 at 12:03 am

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MisterDuck

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i’d blame the weed mate, like glo says it fucks wit your memory.

mixmag did an article on the effects of long-term ecstasy use on your memory, and concluded that e users who smoked weed reported memory loss or poor memory, whereas those who had never been into it reported fine memory.
November 3, 2007 at 11:49 am

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GiantMidget

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I’d say the weed as well mate, I do quite a bit of mud and my memory is fine(ish!!) but haven’t smoked weed for about 5 years now.

When i did smoke i couldn’t remember anything and always was always depressed.

What sort of weed do you smoke? Because Skunk these days is choc a block full of nasty chemicals that proper fuck with your brain, I’d suggest taking a break for month or so and see how you feel after. Trust me mate you’ll feel shit at first but after a couple weeks you’ll feel a lot better!:love:
November 3, 2007 at 12:55 pm

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Cinimod

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boothy wrote:

mixmag did an article on the effects of long-term ecstasy use on your memory, and concluded that e users who smoked weed reported memory loss or poor memory, whereas those who had never been into it reported fine memory.

really? I thought that memory loss was a long term consequence of mdma, nm, lol, I’m glad that I thought wrong 😛
November 3, 2007 at 1:38 pm

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twelve10z

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“does anyone else suffer from anything similar or from other stuff like depression, insomnia, etc, etc, “

I used to suffer from bad comedowns crying myself to sleep etc i also suffered from panic attacks.

I haven’t done drugs / drink / smoke for 5 years now and i can happily say that i have had no adverse effects from mdma speed alchol etc etc etc.

Im usually the one near the front of the stack causing mischief with a smile on my face.

Only had insomnia with coke/speed/caffeine it just doesn’t let your brain stop whirring around.

Chamomile / Redbush Tea is good for helping sleep failing that the old classic of 4 cans of Tennants Super / Gold Label

I have just got back into the Club / Party Scene and have the same buzz as i did before :bounce_fl
November 5, 2007 at 12:31 pm

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General Lighting

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I think there is more at play than just the drugs quality

OK some pills may have been stronger “back in the day” but there was as many rip offs, snide pills and still some had dodgier substances in them

Even if todays pills may contain BZP and derivatives, MDMA crystal has taken over from them as higher quality product..

Weed does play a past as others have said, but I think also the reason people “burn out” quicker these days is also due to many other factors

prices have dropped, and people can afford to do a lot more in a night than in previous years, hence they get tolerance quicker

at the same time life itself is more stressful.

Even with the recessions, Thatcho/Major etc a raver in 1990-1991 didn’t have to worry quite as much about stuff whether their job would get outsourced to a foreign country or whether they would have to compete for work with loads of people – there were still “easy” jobs where you didn’t need so much qualifications – life was less pressurised then..

this sort of stuff IMO does make a difference particularly on the comedown when people are feeling anxious/insecure. Drugs only mask the problems of life and society, they don’t solve them…
November 5, 2007 at 2:55 pm

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sirstonealot

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Check out this site for some quality reading

http://www.dancesafe.org/slideshow/intro.html

Also you might find the attachment intresting

This paper is a good read if your really intrested you can register at the site in the link the the bottom and read the full report.

Journal of Psychopharmacology, Vol. 20, No. 2, 302-311 (2006)
DOI: 10.1177/0269881106059495

© 2006 British Association for Psychopharmacology

Cognitive function and mood in MDMA/THC users, THC users and non-drug using controls
C. T. J. Lamers

Experimental Psychopharmacology Unit, Department of Neurocognition, Brain and Behaviour Institute, Maastricht University, Maastricht, The Netherlands

A. Bechara
M. Rizzo

Division of Behavioral Neurology and Cognitive Neuroscience, Department of Neurology, The University of Iowa College of Medicine, Iowa City, IA, USA

J. G. Ramaekers

Experimental Psychopharmacology Unit, Department of Neurocognition, Brain and Behaviour Institute, Maastricht University, Maastricht, The Netherlands

Repeated ecstasy (MDMA) use is reported to impair cognition and cause increased feelings of depression and anxiety. Yet, many relevant studies have failed to control for use of drugs other than MDMA, especially marijuana (THC). To address these confounding effects we compared behavioural performance of 11 MDMA/THC users, 15 THC users and 15 non-drug users matched for age and intellect. We tested the hypothesis that reported feelings of depression and anxiety and cognitive impairment (memory, executive function and decision making) are more severe in MDMA/THC users than in THC users. MDMA/THC users reported more intense feelings of depression and anxiety than THC users and non-drug users. Memory function was impaired in both groups of drug users. MDMA/THC users showed slower psychomotor speed and less mental .exibility than non-drug users. THC users exhibited less mental .exibility and performed worse on the decision making task compared to non-drug users but these functions were similar to those in MDMA/THC users. It was concluded that MDMA use is associated with increased feelings of depression and anxiety compared to THC users and non-drug users. THC users were impaired in some cognitive abilities to the same degree as MDMA/THC users, suggesting that some cognitive impairment attributed to MDMA is more likely due to concurrent THC use.

http://jop.sagepub.com/cgi/content/abstract/20/2/302
November 6, 2007 at 11:10 am

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Motamba

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OK dude, you got mashed by too much shit by the sounds of it’

You need to gt some herbs bro’

Griffonia extract 5-htp is the cooky’

50mg 5-htp three times a day’

It puts the seretonin back’

You sound like you burnt out untold seretonin axions so the healing process is going to take a lot of time’

Mixing phenylthylamines with amphets and caffine causes this damage.

My advise would be don’t take crap pills’

Do some study and learn of what you are doing befor you do it’

Pills are shit’

mdma is alright is you know how to put back of what you have lost’

I work as a healer, with Herion addicts and all types of distressive syndromes caused by substance abuse’

These damn pills are extreemly destructive’

If you or you know of anyone that requires help and healing PM me’

Don’t take anti-ddepressants, there isn’t one on the market that can hit the right receptors for this kind of damamge’

Don’t take Prozac or any kind of pill’

Eat plenty of fresh greens n fruit’ drink plenty of clean water, get plenty of good exorcise’

You have everything within you so as to heal, but your problem is you don’t know of how to rechannel your energies’

Be well’

Take care’

Motamba’ nangona’:love:
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