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@p0ly 491082 wrote:

People always say this are the ones who happen to take MDMA often. Ain’t they ever heard of losing the magic. You don’t get loads of magical experiences from MDMA unless you spread them out and keep healthy enough.

Not denying the build up of a tolerance mate, and Im sure the more you take the faster that tolerance would build

BUT

A tolerance will gradually build over time with effects slowly declining or doses slowing increase to keep effects the same, not suddenly appear with great pills one month and crap ones the next

@General Lighting 490955 wrote:

a number of my Welsh friends speak Welsh as well as English but said its only used in the North and rural areas. One girl I knew normally spoke English but if she was on a bad comedown and PMT and the same time would often refuse to speak anything other than Welsh (whether or not anyone understood her, that way people left her alone).

I’ve noticed that penalties in the devolved countries (Wales and Scotland) are often thigher than in England, though England’s are now catching up. This seems a paradox as Scotland and Wales actually have more left wing elected governments and are tolerant with other issues (for instance more music events get licensed in these countries).

The reasons for this are complex, interlinked, unpleasant and there is no chance of a bright side any time soon. One reason is that when devolution came, both countries were subject to a lot of pressure from the English right wing “not to be soft on drugs or we will take away valuable investment and give it to Asia” (they did this anyway). There are darker reasons. its not even the politicians and media who are totally to blame. the UK is a democratic European nation and the adult public here are not all complete muppets.

it is other people just like us, who don’t take drugs, but choose to judge those who do and openly want to see them suffer, either as revenge and retribution for what has happened to folk they know either now or in the past. they know its not politiclaly correct to call for open retribution (even harsh Asian countries have wised up loads) but they still want to see it and call for it in the media and vote for politicians what take a hard line. Even at work and in “real life” a lot of younger people are shocked and some even slightly pissed off that a guy like me has a high paid ICT job and may be above them in the corporate ladder and isn’t in prison or mental hospital.

I’ve seen many anti drugs campaigners and enforcers hail the declining quality of some drugs as a victory in the war on drugs.

What pisses me off most is we have something which is worse than a harsh foreign nation’s politicians and authorities having the balls to say up front “drugs have high prison sentence and the death penalty” and put the resources into enforcing it, instead its a devious underhand system giving young people mixed messages, letting them do a bit of drugs (especially if they are middle class, live in a more affluent area but are not normally prepared to continue with drugs or any sort of dissent after their 20s)

but if they dare “have fun for too long” the system strikes hard, dragging them down to the gutter to suffer long term from contaminated drugs, long term health problems or even “lenient” penalties which sting people 10-20 years later when their records are checked for long term careers.

Now the harsh Asian nations are abandoning the death penalty in droves for more caring approaches (for instance the1log would have better treatement in a Malaysia rehab these days!) this malice should be seen for what it is, but too many folk outside our circles persist in it. Worse, its infecting the mindsets of previously tolerant nations, as I’ve noticed even the formerly 100% accurate Dutch drugs charities being ambiguous about how much contaminated stuff is around (in such a way that the message clearly given is the same prohibitionist one as England).

On the Welsh speaking thats true, the larger cities in the south where the majority of the population live are far more ‘anglicized’ and have very few Welsh speakers, and yes for these people it is mostly used to wind up English people lol

I havent noticed higher penalties in Wales & Scotland but then it’s not something I ever researched, but I would say that the perception of socialist ( left wing ) politicians being softer is completely false, dont want to get drawn into a political debate in this section but their core Socialists are more controlling and less about individual rights to self determination.

As for politicians and the media, drug user and dealers are an easy target, they hit us because they can get easy public wins with no opposition, blame us and we can say nothing….. why ? because most recreational drug users have a lot to lose, we have jobs, family mortgages, families, the only difference in we chose to use illegal drugs instead of the legal ones and cant defend ourselves in public without exposing our identities in self confession and losing everything we have. The only drug users that can make a public stand are the ones with nothing to lose, the ones that have gone to far, become addicted to the nastier drugs available and give us all a bad name.

The fact that normal people who dont hurt anyone, dont steal from anyone, work hard and pay their taxes can get higher prison sentences than real criminals who do hurt, steal & contribute nothing just because of their choice of recreational activity sickens me.

@Mezz 491238 wrote:

Not denying the build up of a tolerance mate, and Im sure the more you take the faster that tolerance would build

BUT

A tolerance will gradually build over time with effects slowly declining or doses slowing increase to keep effects the same, not suddenly appear with great pills one month and crap ones the next

+1. you’ll know if you’re getting good or dud stuff… its plainly obvious and you’ll know if its tolerance or not

@cocks17 491315 wrote:

Interesting! You think a break (6 months or so) and boosting seratonin with exercise could get close to that original level or you just never get back there after your brain adjusts?

No! You’ll get a better buzz the more rarely you do it, but it’ll never be anything like that 1st time man. It’s still brilliant whether you do it once a month or once a year, but you’ll never get close to that original feeling – but the memory of those few hours of unrivalled bliss & euphoria will live with me for the rest of my life!