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  • @tryptameanie 986915 wrote:

    I really have no idea why the China ban happened but looking at the compounds that were banned, I have a hard time believing that Chinese youth suddenly had a problem with some very exotic and designed compounds.

    The list wasn’t just picked out at random, and unusually for domestic Chinese legislation was published in English as well as Chinese. There were a load of cathinones amongst them as well as more obscure stuff.

    I was also seperately told by work colleagues from PH that Chinese dealers of NPS and party drugs were causing angst there especially in the middle class districts, and the “Gangnam style” phenomenon was subtly mocking the party lifestyle of kids in KR, added to which there was concern in MY and SG about NPS.

    Also what country do you think most of the spammers that used to infest here until around end 2015 mostly came from? 😉

    @General Lighting 986916 wrote:

    The list wasn’t just picked out at random, and unusually for domestic Chinese legislation was published in English as well as Chinese. There were a load of cathinones amongst them as well as more obscure stuff.

    I was also seperately told by work colleagues from PH that Chinese dealers of NPS and party drugs were causing angst there especially in the middle class districts, and the “Gangnam style” phenomenon was subtly mocking the party lifestyle of kids in KR, added to which there was concern in MY and SG about NPS.

    Also what country do you think most of the spammers that used to infest here until around end 2015 mostly came from? 😉

    I have to say I believe a lot of what was banned was down to international pressure (US…) but the list still seems very random and a mix of old and new, the cannabinoids were certainly new even if some compounds had been in the literature and banned for decades.

    I’m gonna guess the spammers were of Asian origin lol.

    indeed and the list is as much a selection of what was becoming popular in Hong Kong as well as the Asian countries surrounding China as well as in USA or Europe.

    Although PH, MY, SG and KR (even the Northern bit) are all sovereign nations their own right, not “satellite states” of CN they are all co-dependent on each other for trade especially in chemicals used for less controversial industrial purposes.

    My thoughts, especially with the cannabinoids, is they all went to the EU or US market with the majority going to the EU. Use of synthetic cannabinoids in Asian countries makes no sense to me and I’ve never read anything about it tbh. What the Chinese chemists produce tends to stay away from the Chinese market and I suspect that has something to do with said chemists not wanting to end up in a concentration camp or whatever the fuck they call them in Chimna, when they are suddenly blamed for the corruption of Chinas youth (what reason the Chinese government is so corrupt remains elusive….)

    Reports on Asian drug use tend to be confined to the Asian news sites such as the Malaysia Star, Rappler in PH, New Straits Times (MY and SG) etc – they are not the sort of thing those with a “Western” background and/or who does not take a closer interest in Asian news in general would immediately stumble across in comparison to somewhere like the Guardian, BBC News etc (your Google and other searches get tailored towards your geolocated IPs and/or what ethnicity these networks think you are, and they are smart enough to realise this isn’t merely related to buying the odd takeaway online).

    Although real cannabis might be available in some Asian countries it isn’t so easy to get hold of in urban areas or city states like Singapore; so there was some interest in synthetic forms. There is also quite a large party/hedonistic scene in Southern China, the authorities to some extent turn a blind eye to it provided the kids still turn up for their jobs in the electronics factories on Monday. It was only because some of them weren’t (same as in Europe 20 years ago) the moral panics started.

    The worst that happens to most of the NPS dealers (who are well educated, middle class and often fluent in European languages as much as Chinese) is that their factories are closed down, they are swiftly deported from whatever country they happen to be in (if its not CN) and their money is confiscated, they do not end up in gulags or get shot/hanged any more. Even in countries with death penalty they all get busted for literally miligrams below the “danger” amount so the charges are posession rather than supply. This has been going on for about 5 years now if not longer. The birth rate in many Asian countries (other than PH) is declining and thus the authorities simply cannot afford to be too harsh on their future generations.

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