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those cleaning chemicals are also used to make IEDs, or incendiary devices, and cops are paranoid about these from every side of political spectrum or even burned out ravers or just lads trying to make them for fun (which seems to be one of the less pleasant hobby pastimes of blokes in some Northern European countries, it was a popular “hobby” here in England as well until angry men did it for serious reasons)

So there are traffic checks against these as well and dogs taught to sniff for these strong chemicals too – a risk you might escape the drugs check but the cops think WTF is that, which has carefully been painted and cleaned with strong solvents? a bomb?

surely if you are holding only a personal quantity for your own use penalties are lenient across the EU nowadays? Even in England if you are caught with as many as 10-20 pills cops say “naughty boy/girl” and give you a caution, and if you are planning something bigger not a good idea to discuss it on a forum older than Google where everything hits the search engines 10 seconds after you hit send. From the experience of my friends and monitoring what the cops and courts do there is a fine line between being judged as a “dumb/desparate criminal” and a “smart one”. Sometimes it is best to “play dumb” as if you put more effort into crime and it all goes titsup you are then in way more trouble (prison for instance as opposed to community service).

seriously though if you’ve got the engineering skills to make a container like that and what must be a fairly decent workshop and the brains to even consider this you might as well try and make a few euros by legitimate means. Even at the height of a economic depression these skills remain valuable – if you can’t or don’t want to get a “normal job” you can help fix peoples bicycles, cars, other gadgets. that should earn you enough to buy enough MDMA to keep you and your friends high and yet stay out of prison.

its not just dogs now but ion tracks and x-ray type machines, which are used even within countries, especially in areas near borders. A dog costs about €20 000 to train, gets tired and has a limited service life, once its over certain age its retired and normally either given away as a pet to the policeman who looked after it or if its a bad area to a animal shelter the other end of the country (for instance London sniffer dogs are often rehomed in the North or Scotland). In my area they use electronic devices which can be way more sensitive than a sniffer dog, and cops share good practice ideas across the North Sea same as ravers do.

There isn’t anything which wouldn’t be considered suspicious if it wasn’t part of the vehicle to start with.

The biggest irony is if your friends are dealers of middle or high level, the device could be discovered by cops looking for what they think is not drugs, but a IED put there by rivals to blow them up, especially on mainland Europe where this can be more common (in England our criminals are often too stupid to make decent bombs).

you may have misunderstood the purpose of this site. It is to give (usually) young drug users harm reduction advice, (which may also include minimising the risk of being arrested for small posession as it harms their career prospects), not to help commercial level dealers escape the due process of law in democratic countries. There are accepted political methods to challenge drugs control laws and some countries have done so with success but also with the consensus of their population. Others have abandoned harsh penalties including death penalty in faviour of a rehab based approach.

Outside of this, trafficking drugs remains crime, not activism or altruism, and this forum is not legally permitted to facilitate crime anywhere in the world. Even if you are a cool raver, someone else could use the methods to traffic heroin, or even explosives or poison! Anyway, cops across EU know all these tricks and hiding places, as this is where they often put surveillance equipment to track a drug dealers vehicle. They also work with the vehicle manufacturers and have more power as cops/and interior ministries buy many more cars than ravers and drug dealers do, and they like modified vehicles as well (they need to install the GPS kit, the speed/camera recorders where corrupt officers cannot tamper with it, TETRA radios and all other such things). There are whole companies across Europe what help cops and other security agencies hide things in vehicles – one in Wales (a UK country) is so well respected the Chinese buy their surveillance kit from there!

Although the movie character “Q” from James Bond is a bit of a exaggeration (like Bond himself), these sort of chaps do exist.

Really this should have been discussed somewhere else, much more privately, rather than then this prominent website as now the cops know what to look for (it is scanned by cops from UK and Europe every weekend!) – Europe is a small place and the people doing MDMA regular are a small subset of its population, committing what many others view to be crime. Also you may think you are making your friends “safe” but even if this works once or twice eventually they can get addicted to the money or the adrenalin of “beating the system”, one person gets greedy and the lot are caught.

Maybe your country has a different justice system (but if its sharper then they will be more aware of these tactics) but my friends used to deal MDMA, they didn’t do any of this complex stuff and got away with it for many years.

Eventually they did get caught, but as the stash wasn’t hidden away hard they were able to get rid of the bulk of it. That put someones charge down to the minor end of posession with intent to supply which got him probation (community service). the Court treated it as “desparate young people what couldf not get a job”. Had they used an elaborate scheme to hide the drugs, especially in this North Sea border area he would have been given 5-10 years prison. remember in England a lot of criminals “play dumb”, but we aren’t short of good drugs….