How is dressing up as Hitler “really sick”? It’s in now way condoning any of his actions, but he’s an instantly recognisable figure that can be easily taken the piss out of and therefore ideal for a fancy-dress scenario.
I agree, I think in this day and age by taking the piss out of someone like hitler shows how much of a joke he was. 😉
I think KKK outfits are worse. :crazy_diz
if he dressed up as a nazi as a pisstake on him self and his families german origins fair enough.
Also although dressing up as hitler may not be everyones cup of tea, my mate went to a fancy dress party dressed up as a peodephile and his g/f as a little girl. He had bottle bottom glasses, peodo wig, peodo claw, mac and a bag of sweets, she was in school uniform :you_crazy :laugh_at:and i found that quite funny. so i suppose you could dress up as hitler and have a laugh… maybe
but i still think calling someone an aussie is pretty far removed from calling someone a paki. No australian has been bullied or persecuted to the level of any asian person esp using those words to belittle them.
and Hype… this,
“i am just saing that not calling a black board a black board and calling it a chalk board for the sake of political correctnes”
is obviously stupid. but its not racist to say black board same as its not racist to refer to a group of people as a group of black lads or a group of asian lads etc… but saying that group of ragheads or whatever is imo racist.
Also although dressing up as hitler may not be everyones cup of tea, my mate went to a fancy dress party dressed up as a peodephile and his g/f as a little girl. He had bottle bottom glasses, peodo wig, peodo claw, mac and a bag of sweets, she was in school uniform :you_crazy :laugh_at:and i found that quite funny. so i suppose you could dress up as hitler and have a laugh… maybe
but i still think calling someone an aussie is pretty far removed from calling someone a paki. No australian has been bullied or persecuted to the level of any asian person esp using those words to belittle them.
and Hype… this,
“i am just saing that not calling a black board a black board and calling it a chalk board for the sake of political correctnes”
is obviously stupid. but its not racist to say black board same as its not racist to refer to a group of people as a group of black lads or a group of asian lads etc… but saying that group of ragheads or whatever is imo racist.
Oh I definitely agree on the derogatory racist terms front. The word “paki” is disgusting (as is any racial slur). Obviously the Prince was out of order to use it.
However to me that’s different to dressing up as Hitler. I don’t find it offensive or particularly funny, it’s literally just a costume that is popular because it’s an instantly recognisable figure… I’d imagine the paedophile scenario potentially more offensive to some people, although I wouldn’t be offended at that either.
I personally take an affront to anybody wearing the NAZI iniform in any of it’s guises. Members of my family were killed fighting against the 3rd Reich. As I am sure many of yours were.
Here is a short extract of the outcomes of the Frank family when dicovered by Nazi’s.
Before going into hiding
For her thirteenth birthday on June 12, 1942, Anne received a book she had shown her father in a shop window a few days earlier. Although it was an autograph book, bound with red-and-green plaid cloth and with a small lock on the front, Anne decided she would use it as a diary, and began writing in it almost immediately. While many of her early entries relate the mundane aspects of her life, she also discusses some of the changes that had taken place in the Netherlands since the German occupation. In her entry dated June 20, 1942, she lists many of the restrictions that had been placed upon the lives of the Dutch Jewish population, and also notes her sorrow at the death of her grandmother earlier in the year. Anne dreamed about becoming an actress. She loved watching movies, but the Dutch Jews were forbidden access to movie theaters beginning January 8, 1941.
In July 1942, Margot Frank received a call-up notice from the Zentralstelle für jüdische Auswanderung (Central Office for Jewish Emigration) ordering her to report for relocation to a work camp. Anne was told by her father that the family would go into hiding in rooms above and behind the company’s premises on the Prinsengracht, a street along one of Amsterdam’s canals, where some of Otto Frank’s most trusted employees would help them. The call-up notice forced them to relocate several weeks earlier than had been anticipated.
Deportation and death
On September 3,the group was deported on what would be the last transport from Westerbork to the Auschwitz concentration camp, and arrived after a three-day journey. In the chaos that marked the unloading of the trains, the men were forcibly separated from the women and children, and Otto Frank was wrenched from his family. Of the 1,019 passengers, 549—including all children younger than fifteen—were sent directly to the gas chambers. Anne had turned fifteen three months earlier and was one of the youngest people to be spared from her transport. She was soon made aware that most people were gassed upon arrival, and never learned that the entire group from the Achterhuis had survived this selection. She reasoned that her father, in his mid-fifties and not particularly robust, had been killed immediately after they were separated.
With the other females not selected for immediate death, Anne was forced to strip naked to be disinfected, had her head shaved and was tattooed with an identifying number on her arm. By day, the women were used as slave labor and Anne was forced to haul rocks and dig rolls of sod; by night, they were crammed into overcrowded barracks. Witnesses later testified that Anne became withdrawn and tearful when she saw children being led to the gas chambers, though other witnesses reported that more often she displayed strength and courage, and that her gregarious and confident nature allowed her to obtain extra bread rations for Edith, Margot and herself. Disease was rampant and before long, Anne’s skin became badly infected by scabies. She and Margot were moved into an infirmary, which was in a state of constant darkness, and infested with rats and mice. Edith Frank stopped eating, saving every morsel of food for her daughters and passing her rations to them, through a hole she made at the bottom of the infirmary wall.
Memorial for Margot and Anne Frank at the former Bergen-Belsen site, along with floral and pictorial tributes
On October 28, selections began for women to be relocated to Bergen-Belsen. More than 8,000 women, including Anne and Margot Frank and Auguste van Pels, were transported, but Edith Frank was left behind and later died from starvation.Tents were erected at Bergen-Belsen to accommodate the influx of prisoners, and as the population rose, the death toll due to disease increased rapidly. Anne was briefly reunited with two friends, Hanneli Goslar and Nanette Blitz, who were confined in another section of the camp. Goslar and Blitz both survived the war and later discussed the brief conversations that they had conducted with Anne through a fence. Blitz described her as bald, emaciated and shivering and Goslar noted that Auguste van Pels was with Anne and Margot Frank, and was caring for Margot, who was severely ill. Neither of them saw Margot as she was too weak to leave her bunk. Anne told both Blitz and Goslar that she believed her parents were dead, and for that reason did not wish to live any longer. Goslar later estimated that their meetings had taken place in late January or early February, 1945.
In March 1945, a typhusepidemic spread through the camp and killed approximately 17,000 prisoners. Witnesses later testified that Margot fell from her bunk in her weakened state and was killed by the shock, and that a few days later Anne died. They stated that this occurred a few weeks before the camp was liberated by British troops on April 15, 1945, although the exact dates were not recorded. After liberation, the camp was burned in an effort to prevent further spread of disease, and Anne and Margot were buried in a mass grave, the exact whereabouts of which is unknown.
After the war, it was estimated that of the 107,000 Jews deported from the Netherlands between 1942 and 1944, only 5,000 survived. It was also estimated that up to 30,000 Jews remained in the Netherlands, with many people aided by the Dutch underground. Approximately two-thirds of these people survived the war.
Otto Frank survived his internment in Auschwitz. After the war ended, he returned to Amsterdam where he was sheltered by Jan and Miep Gies, as he attempted to locate his family. He learned of the death of his wife, Edith, in Auschwitz, but he remained hopeful that his daughters had survived. After several weeks, he discovered that Margot and Anne also had died. He attempted to determine the fates of his daughters’ friends, and learned that many had been murdered. Susanne Ledermann, often mentioned in Anne’s diary, had been gassed along with her parents, though her sister, Barbara, a close friend of Margot, had survived. Several of the Frank sisters’ school friends had survived, as had the extended families of both Otto and Edith Frank, as they had fled Germany during the mid 1930s, with individual family members settling in Switzerland, the United Kingdom and the United States.
Estimates for total deaths attributed to WW2 vary from from 50 to 70 MILLIONS including around 47MILLION deaths of civilians.
At the time, only a few short decades ago, nobody thought this was very funny. It is still one of the most tragic occurances in our own recent history. I do not laugh now and never will. Why not? Because it is so sick as to be almost beyond belief, but sadly very very true.
I have a great sense of humour, but nothing concerning the Nazis, the rise of the Third Reich and the uniforms of terror, death and destruction they used are the least bit amusing IMO. See if you can get a laugh from a concentration camp survivor with a Nazi Uniform.
If Harry during light hearted banter called his mate a Paki is deplorable then strutting about in Nazi costumes is 1000 times more insulting to anyone who ever thinks just once in their life of the men that died to free the world of the Third Riech.
My mate asked me to go to a Nazis and Nuns fancy dress party, I shot him twice with a Glock 21 and buried his corpse under my patio.
Please ask you mate to go as Kieth Harris and Orville the Duck or one of the Three Musketeers next time.
Rant over
Mate I am familiar with the Anne Frank story thanks.
I personally don’t find it offensive, neither did anyone there. That doesn’t mean we’re all a bunch of Neo-Nazi’s or some shit, because we’re actually the opposite, as I have said.
Is that all he said to get all that tabloid bullshit.
Man he is in the army, you know a team. They take the piss out of him he takes the piss out of them. Simple.
Leave him alone and let him do his job.
And your telling people on the internet haha is this a joke?:you_crazy
Also although dressing up as hitler may not be everyones cup of tea, my mate went to a fancy dress party dressed up as a peodephile and his g/f as a little girl. He had bottle bottom glasses, peodo wig, peodo claw, mac and a bag of sweets, she was in school uniform :you_crazy :laugh_at:and i found that quite funny. so i suppose you could dress up as hitler and have a laugh… maybe
but i still think calling someone an aussie is pretty far removed from calling someone a paki. No australian has been bullied or persecuted to the level of any asian person esp using those words to belittle them.
and Hype… this,
“i am just saing that not calling a black board a black board and calling it a chalk board for the sake of political correctnes”
is obviously stupid. but its not racist to say black board same as its not racist to refer to a group of people as a group of black lads or a group of asian lads etc… but saying that group of ragheads or whatever is imo racist.
yeah tbh the rag head comment was rasist imo .. as it wasn’t a joke to a friend about either one of there ethnicity .. it was a sterio type directed at a whole group of people he didn’t know. the point i was making about the “rag head comment was a bit off point .. i was just tring to point out how the people sending the army out to kill afgans ect. are fine with killing them but won’t tollerate people name calling .. seems like a stupid way of looknig at things imo.
Here is a short extract of the outcomes of the Frank family when dicovered by Nazi’s.
Before going into hiding
For her thirteenth birthday on June 12, 1942, Anne received a book she had shown her father in a shop window a few days earlier. Although it was an autograph book, bound with red-and-green plaid cloth and with a small lock on the front, Anne decided she would use it as a diary, and began writing in it almost immediately. While many of her early entries relate the mundane aspects of her life, she also discusses some of the changes that had taken place in the Netherlands since the German occupation. In her entry dated June 20, 1942, she lists many of the restrictions that had been placed upon the lives of the Dutch Jewish population, and also notes her sorrow at the death of her grandmother earlier in the year. Anne dreamed about becoming an actress. She loved watching movies, but the Dutch Jews were forbidden access to movie theaters beginning January 8, 1941.
In July 1942, Margot Frank received a call-up notice from the Zentralstelle für jüdische Auswanderung (Central Office for Jewish Emigration) ordering her to report for relocation to a work camp. Anne was told by her father that the family would go into hiding in rooms above and behind the company’s premises on the Prinsengracht, a street along one of Amsterdam’s canals, where some of Otto Frank’s most trusted employees would help them. The call-up notice forced them to relocate several weeks earlier than had been anticipated.
Deportation and death
On September 3,the group was deported on what would be the last transport from Westerbork to the Auschwitz concentration camp, and arrived after a three-day journey. In the chaos that marked the unloading of the trains, the men were forcibly separated from the women and children, and Otto Frank was wrenched from his family. Of the 1,019 passengers, 549—including all children younger than fifteen—were sent directly to the gas chambers. Anne had turned fifteen three months earlier and was one of the youngest people to be spared from her transport. She was soon made aware that most people were gassed upon arrival, and never learned that the entire group from the Achterhuis had survived this selection. She reasoned that her father, in his mid-fifties and not particularly robust, had been killed immediately after they were separated.
With the other females not selected for immediate death, Anne was forced to strip naked to be disinfected, had her head shaved and was tattooed with an identifying number on her arm. By day, the women were used as slave labor and Anne was forced to haul rocks and dig rolls of sod; by night, they were crammed into overcrowded barracks. Witnesses later testified that Anne became withdrawn and tearful when she saw children being led to the gas chambers, though other witnesses reported that more often she displayed strength and courage, and that her gregarious and confident nature allowed her to obtain extra bread rations for Edith, Margot and herself. Disease was rampant and before long, Anne’s skin became badly infected by scabies. She and Margot were moved into an infirmary, which was in a state of constant darkness, and infested with rats and mice. Edith Frank stopped eating, saving every morsel of food for her daughters and passing her rations to them, through a hole she made at the bottom of the infirmary wall.
Memorial for Margot and Anne Frank at the former Bergen-Belsen site, along with floral and pictorial tributes
On October 28, selections began for women to be relocated to Bergen-Belsen. More than 8,000 women, including Anne and Margot Frank and Auguste van Pels, were transported, but Edith Frank was left behind and later died from starvation.Tents were erected at Bergen-Belsen to accommodate the influx of prisoners, and as the population rose, the death toll due to disease increased rapidly. Anne was briefly reunited with two friends, Hanneli Goslar and Nanette Blitz, who were confined in another section of the camp. Goslar and Blitz both survived the war and later discussed the brief conversations that they had conducted with Anne through a fence. Blitz described her as bald, emaciated and shivering and Goslar noted that Auguste van Pels was with Anne and Margot Frank, and was caring for Margot, who was severely ill. Neither of them saw Margot as she was too weak to leave her bunk. Anne told both Blitz and Goslar that she believed her parents were dead, and for that reason did not wish to live any longer. Goslar later estimated that their meetings had taken place in late January or early February, 1945.
In March 1945, a typhusepidemic spread through the camp and killed approximately 17,000 prisoners. Witnesses later testified that Margot fell from her bunk in her weakened state and was killed by the shock, and that a few days later Anne died. They stated that this occurred a few weeks before the camp was liberated by British troops on April 15, 1945, although the exact dates were not recorded. After liberation, the camp was burned in an effort to prevent further spread of disease, and Anne and Margot were buried in a mass grave, the exact whereabouts of which is unknown.
After the war, it was estimated that of the 107,000 Jews deported from the Netherlands between 1942 and 1944, only 5,000 survived. It was also estimated that up to 30,000 Jews remained in the Netherlands, with many people aided by the Dutch underground. Approximately two-thirds of these people survived the war.
Otto Frank survived his internment in Auschwitz. After the war ended, he returned to Amsterdam where he was sheltered by Jan and Miep Gies, as he attempted to locate his family. He learned of the death of his wife, Edith, in Auschwitz, but he remained hopeful that his daughters had survived. After several weeks, he discovered that Margot and Anne also had died. He attempted to determine the fates of his daughters’ friends, and learned that many had been murdered. Susanne Ledermann, often mentioned in Anne’s diary, had been gassed along with her parents, though her sister, Barbara, a close friend of Margot, had survived. Several of the Frank sisters’ school friends had survived, as had the extended families of both Otto and Edith Frank, as they had fled Germany during the mid 1930s, with individual family members settling in Switzerland, the United Kingdom and the United States.
Estimates for total deaths attributed to WW2 vary from from 50 to 70 MILLIONS including around 47MILLION deaths of civilians.
At the time, only a few short decades ago, nobody thought this was very funny. It is still one of the most tragic occurances in our own recent history. I do not laugh now and never will. Why not? Because it is so sick as to be almost beyond belief, but sadly very very true.
I have a great sense of humour, but nothing concerning the Nazis, the rise of the Third Reich and the uniforms of terror, death and destruction they used are the least bit amusing IMO. See if you can get a laugh from a concentration camp survivor with a Nazi Uniform.
If Harry during light hearted banter called his mate a Paki is deplorable then strutting about in Nazi costumes is 1000 times more insulting to anyone who ever thinks just once in their life of the men that died to free the world of the Third Riech.
My mate asked me to go to a Nazis and Nuns fancy dress party, I shot him twice with a Glock 21 and buried his corpse under my patio.
Please ask you mate to go as Kieth Harris and Orville the Duck or one of the Three Musketeers next time.
Rant over
my family is jewish and i am half jewish … i don’t find it offensive in the sligtest … hittler existed and that is history .. by some one wearing a hitler costume it’s not like he is saing hittler was in the right or any thing .. probably the opposit … he was just taking the piss out of his own origins … it’s not like he him self is killing thousands of innocent people .. that was hittler him self .. and as i say thats allready happened and not much we can do about it .. might as well just except the fact and move on :group_hug
Did you use lime?
lol its funny some random asian boy called rakim added me on msn and the name he uses 90% of the time is ‘Little Paki Rudeboy’.
ffs saying paki does not make you think you are superior to someone cos of where your born or parents were born.
ffs saying paki does not make you think you are superior to someone cos of where your born or parents were born.
i was pretty sure we’d already covered this mate.
http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Paki
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well Rakim refers to himself as a paki, i dont care what wiki says you can take offence to fucking anything. look at the game ‘littlebigplanet’ that came out the other month, they had to change every copy of the game cos some faggot little muslim kid got offended by a couple of words in 1 of the songs in the game (you really should check out what offended him aswell, almost as pathetic as being called a paki)
there are two much wider issues – the first being that Harry was acting as a Crown Servant (in HM Forces) at the time – easily identifiable in uniform and with his unit. In that sort of job (whether in HM forces or the Home Civil Service) your own or your colleagues standards personal views or values about banter don’t mean shit – you are expected to follow the rules, especially as you enforce them, either by regulations or direct force..
Where I once worked in the Civil Service, if two Pakistani lads had referred to themselves as Pakis in the office they would have got in trouble had anyone (including a white person) complained!
Even swearing in the office was frowned upon if there were many older people or ladies etc around, you would only do it if in a group of younger staff.
it may seem old fashioned or political correctness but that is what is expected of Crown Servants when on duty…
but theres another issue is of loyalty and trust – there was a time when it simply wasn’t acceptable in this country to pass on private details of Forces movements and actions to the media, (especially during an active conflict) nor for the media to report it in such a way what could cause greater community tension..
if in World War II some titled toff posted to Africa had written back to his mum saying “Gadzooks! My unit is full of wogs!” it wouldnt’ have been leaked by the War Ministry and ended up on the front page of the Manchester Guardian, and even if the editors had been told of such a letter they wouldn’t have published it..
It seems to have been overlooked that the media have also endangered the Asian soldier, who will now become a greater target for insurgents of Al-quaeda etc whilst before he would have been “just another soldier…”
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