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December 2, 2015 at 6:51 am

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CurlyWhirly67

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Hi. I have never taken drugs and my only vice is alcohol so I am asking this on the forum because I don’t know the facts.
A few weeks ago my girlfriend tried out meow meow, she did this after getting pissed out of her head (I wasn’t with her, I was in work).

She ended up having a threesome with a boy and another girl, I found out myself, she didn’t own up to it because she didn’t want to split up with me.

We did nearly split up because of it but I believed her when she said that she didn’t know what she was doing but I have read on the internet that meow meow can ‘sober you up’ because it is so much stronger than alcohol.

Has any forum member had any experience of taking meth after being pissed and if so does it sober you up or does it not make any difference !?

I appreciate any feedback.

p.s. I just wanted to say hi to everyone as I am new here :t15198:
December 2, 2015 at 6:53 am

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CurlyWhirly67

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By the way she snorted it. She said she will never touch it again but I don’t know whether to believe her.

I don’t trust her now this is why I would like to know whether she did it on purpose or really didn’t know what she was doing.

p.s. apparently it makes you very horny is this true ?
December 2, 2015 at 10:19 pm

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Digital Buddha

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Meow Meow as in mephedrone or meth?? You mention both.

Stimulants usually will sober you up when you’re trashed, as far as the making you horny part thats subjective and specific to the individual.

I’m sorry but I’m not much of a proponent of “I didn’t know what I was doing” or “the drugs made me do it”; if you want to bite on that excuse hook line and sinker that’s your prerogative. Personally there are very few drugs that I’d buy that excuse from and meph/meth isn’t one of them, trashed or not they make you more aware of what the situation is around you.

The last bit about her never doing it again, plenty of people say they’ll never do something and then do it or say they’ll never do it again and then do it again and again.

Good luck with your broad.
December 2, 2015 at 10:41 pm

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CurlyWhirly67

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Thanks for replying. I didn’t know that mephedrone was different to meth ?

I think it was mephedrone as that is another name for meow meow.

The thing is the following morning she was out of it (I didn’t know what had happened at the time) and I found her flat in a hell of a mess and she had lost her keys, she also lost her mobile phone and that was never found.

I only found out about it as the boys girlfriend knocked on her door and wanted to know why he had given her my girlfriends keys !

I am wondering if it is because the effects of the drug wore off i.e. the stimulant effect and the alcohol effect then came into being ?
December 3, 2015 at 2:50 am

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Digital Buddha

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The story sounds quite a bit more believable with the trashed pad, missing phone and keys. The few times I did meph it did make me feel sexed up but I never drank with it so I don’t know from experience about that combination. After the stimulant high goes you would probably be in a a weird state, still awake but not buzzing from the meph but still with alcohol in her system. As far as it goes I doubt she intended to have a threesome with other folks but now that is that so the relationship is probably never going to have the same element of trust. I’m not a fucking therapist, all I can speak to is the drug and even then only so much.
December 3, 2015 at 3:02 am

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Garoldeep Singh

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Well, as someone who has done some truly despicable things on drugs, meph (or ‘meow meow, if your a daily mail reader) is something that has never once ‘sobered me up’ in the slightest, it has made me do things I would hang myself over, such as have sex with one of my best mates girl then lie stone faced to him, on the phone STILL IN THE ACT, and think ‘sod it’ I’ll just keep going……it’s a soul destroying substance, and a dangerous one at that; the amount of people I know who’s lives have been ruined by it is unreal, all the females, have had there children taken from them, others are in prison and some have fled the country.

Be careful with that stuff dude, 4-MMC is a motherfucker of a thing, well, its not 4MMC anymore but some other sort of cathinone……
December 29, 2015 at 12:47 pm

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General Lighting

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Cathinones have this nasty downside where they can encourage impulsive/sketchy behaviour even during the high and then soon after there is this really paranoid comedown/crash. Although that can also happen with MDMA and other amfetamine type stimulants the cathinones start getting rough comparatively quickly into use.

@Gylfì Guðbjörnsson 974653 wrote:

it’s a soul destroying substance, and a dangerous one at that; the amount of people I know who’s lives have been ruined by it is unreal, all the females, have had there children taken from them, others are in prison and some have fled the country.

Be careful with that stuff dude, 4-MMC is a motherfucker of a thing, well, its not 4MMC anymore but some other sort of cathinone……

I remember stuff like this also happening even with the other party drugs although on a slower timescale; I dread to think how it must affect the viewpoints of those in power like politicians / TVP especially those who are my age now and may have seen two generations fuck up.

Mind you it could explain why people actually vote Conservative especially if the whole of SE England is on a bad comedown.
December 29, 2015 at 5:35 pm

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Digital Buddha

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If people do enough dumb shit or are self destructive because of a new substance then it is pretty easy for conservative elements to fire up the old antidrug rhetoric and convince more moderate folks that voting for them is the best solution and no-tolerance is the way to go. It is pretty easy for us to be relativists about the harm caused by a drug and shift blame to the user(s) for being a twat as much as on the chemical, but for those who don’t/didn’t imbibe hard substances in their youth then they only see it from their perspective that the drug is causing the problem and thus can’t see the logic behind education and harm reduction because then the drug’s ‘win’, if that makes sense. Sad state of affairs, there are plenty of drugs that are inherently destructive, MDMA isn’t one of them yet from the way you tell it a whole generation in the U.K. was a casualty from its overuse, and essentially the same things happened with K and Cathiones. These societal fuckups are societies fault due to escapism and hedonism not the fault of a molecule that is psychoactive due to its particular arrangement of carbons, hydrogens, oxygens ect.

Lots of folks trying to treat the symptoms not the disease.
December 29, 2015 at 6:10 pm

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General Lighting

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@Digital Buddha 975715 wrote:

. Sad state of affairs, there are plenty of drugs that are inherently destructive, MDMA isn’t one of them yet from the way you tell it a whole generation in the U.K. was a casualty from its overuse, and essentially the same things happened with K and Cathiones. These societal fuckups are societies fault due to escapism and hedonism not the fault of a molecule that is psychoactive due to its particular arrangement of carbons, hydrogens, oxygens ect.

Lots of folks trying to treat the symptoms not the disease.

exactly what I saw happen – during the height of my partying days I also had to relocate from SE England to the East Coast due to a job offer. I’d already turned down a chance to do sound and light at European tekno festivals as I suspected it wasn’t a long term income source; from what I heard the folk who did do this had fun for a few years but paid a heavy price from addictions/health problems added to trouble with the law which follows you about if you are in the EU.

TBH I expect if I had “followed my dreams” I would not be alive today (or locked up in some kind of institution).

I ended up having to move about 200km away away from all my family and live alone for much of the time (although my mum moved in with me for a bit when she wasn’t staying in Malaysia) – this of course involved trying to make a whole new bunch of friends – not that easy when you are in your mid 30s! I just saw the same mistakes made by everyone in my new location (and not just by young people either).

I don’t blame drugs entirely for them as I’ve noticed similar dysfunctional behaviour (when trying to help out at places like voluntary groups) from people who don’t take drugs at all and rarely drink, there is a wider lack of genuine trust, friendship and empathy in Britain today. It probably stems from Thatcho’s time and the feeling that “there is no such thing as society” which shows how ingrained it is.
December 29, 2015 at 6:28 pm

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Digital Buddha

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I guess the saying that dosage determines if something is a medicine or a poison is pretty apt; all the people I started college with who kept things reasonable and sensible with the party drugs are a. still alive and b. have better life prospects moving forward.

Follow your dreams, until they become a nightmare.. Certainly glad your still kicking around above ground, I suspect had I stayed heavily involved in the ‘scene’ as it is in America for longer than I did then I’d have to pay the piper at some point similar as to how you describe with following your dreams as sound and light guy being unsustainable.

Eventually in Western culture we need to examine why our mental health is screwed up sans drugs, you could take all the legal and illegal substances away and have no alcohol and still a fair number of folks would still be in mental agony. Trust does seem to be a good place to start, nobody trust anybody, and ironically party drugs can enhance trust to an extent but are stigmatized. I’m only familiar with how it goes in America but as far as it is the problem seems to be about the same in the U.K. in that life is unbearable for some that are sensitized to it and that makes it less bearable for the rest who aren’t as sensitized and cyclically it continues.
January 4, 2016 at 12:19 pm

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mhead

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Hello, I’ve recently bought some “meph” but it’s turned up in big chunky crystals. Like I’ve never seen “meph” look like this before.
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