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that iz good advise…i have been addicted 2 H & ms contin since i waz 16, i em now 24 & feel like im never going 2 be able 2 give it up, i cant handle the withdrawels, ive tried the methadone program, subi’z everything..so 2 ne1 whoz given it up…u r amazing!!
Just a hypothetical question; If you got your H pure and from nhs, would you be able to live with your addiction, get a job(or some thing to do more than being an addict) and live a life?
@SRM86 435974 wrote:
that iz good advise…i have been addicted 2 H & ms contin since i waz 16, i em now 24 & feel like im never going 2 be able 2 give it up, i cant handle the withdrawels, ive tried the methadone program, subi’z everything..so 2 ne1 whoz given it up…u r amazing!!
What happened when you tried the methadone route (maybe your dose wasn’t high enough???) it worked wonders for me and gave me my whole quality of life back after my first dose because I to am the same and cannot handle the physical withdrawals that comes from heroin.
@!sinner69! 435976 wrote:
Just a hypothetical question; If you got your H pure and from nhs, would you be able live with your addiction, get a job(or some thing to do more than being an addict) and live a life?
They NHS do in very rare situations when all methadone therapy etc etc fails countless amounts of time prescribe a pure form of heroin under supervised environments to addicts and yes you would be able to hold down a job and live your life as heroin does not destroy the body as such it is the impurities and dirty injecting practices where the dangers of heroin use mainly come from although you may be quite limited to what jobs you can actually do as heroin can make me feel quite sleepy/tired even if you have a tolerance to opiates.
Ok, the reason I ask is personal not that I am an addict because I aint, opiats do not work on me. But in my garden window I have the ashes of my friend, an old addict, she died a month ago. She was one of the first in denmark to be ‘treated’ with methadone since the beginning of the 70’s and her biggest regret in life was to start that. She was not heroin addict but a morphinist. The long term use of methadone is not good it eats your body slowly to pieces, and you need to take more and more drugs against the side effects.She was convinced that if she had been able to get morphine her life quality would have been quite different and improved. So as for short period of time methadone could help addicts of missery, but I ask my self why not give the the real del and learn how to live that instead? And her lesson to the ones that absolutly ‘must’ try the opiat way was; try morphine before H. Its easier to handle but as addictive, never forget that. If this is right I cant tell cause as I said those drugs do not work on me.
You might wonder why I keep her ashes in my window, hmm, I am waiting for a friend to come home to DK so we can deal with it.
My late friend was a sailor, radio-officer and sailed under the vietnam war en route on saigon for two years, she had her leaves in manilla and bangkok that is where she got hooked. I promised her as a last will to spread her ashes out on sea. So my friend, her son if he wants to, they did not have much contact, and me will take her ashes up to Norway where we will sail far out on the sea and spread her ashes.
@!sinner69! 435987 wrote:
Ok, the reason I ask is personal not that I am an addict because I aint, opiats do not work on me. But in my garden window I have the ashes of my friend, an old addict, she died a month ago. She was one of the first in denmark to be ‘treated’ with methadone since the beginning of the 70’s and her biggest regret in life was to start that. She was not heroin addict but a morphinist. The long term use of methadone is not good it eats your body slowly to pieces, and you need to take more and more drugs against the side effects.She was convinced that if she had been able to get morphine her life quality would have been quite different and improved. So as for short period of time methadone could help addicts of missery, but I ask my self why not give the the real del and learn how to live that instead? And her lesson to the ones that absolutly ‘must’ try the opiat way was; try morphine before H. Its easier to handle but as addictive, never forget that. If this is right I cant tell cause as I said those drugs do not work on me.
You might wonder why I keep her ashes in my window, hmm, I am waiting for a friend to come home to DK so we can deal with it.
My late friend was a sailor, radio-officer and sailed under the vietnam war en route on saigon for two years, she had her leaves in manilla and bangkok that is where she got hooked. I promised her as a last will to spread her ashes out on sea. So my friend, her son if he wants to, they did not have much contact, and me will take her ashes up to Norway where we will sail far out on the sea and spread her ashes.
Hi I am ever so sorry to hear about your friends death but I must point out the methadone, morphine and all other opiates do not destroy the body in any way whatsoever this is scientifically proven the reason why addict’s die when using these substances is solely down to the life’s they lead for example poor nutrition, lack of exercise, mixing of different drugs/chemicals.
After reading your post I was shocked when you said methadone slowly ate her body to pieces and after a little research found that it doesn’t and its other factors that would of caused your friends demise. I don’t know if you know what these are or if there is something your friend wasn’t telling you but thousands of people in the UK alone take methadone each and everyday and none report death or the body being slowly destroyed solely by the use of methadone or other opiates.
Also from what I have seen 99% of people who react well to methadone treatment do not need to take more and more drugs as there are very few side effects to methadone and if there was your friend probably should of been switched to another opiate substitute for instance subutex/suboxone the only reason some one would take more and more drugs after being stabilized on methadone would be to chase a high your never going to get as at doses of 80mg or more methadone acts as a blocker and other opiates are unable to bind to the necessary receptors.
I’m not trying to be horrible in this post whatsoever but I have to point out the facts about methadone as it does not eat away at the body opiates are widely known to do virtually no damage to the body whatsoever the risks comes from the points mentioned above and unpure/cut street drugs along with overdose and addiction which in turn leads to the low quality lifestyle. Addiction is a vicious circle
@Jordan Elderkin 435977 wrote:
What happened when you tried the methadone route (maybe your dose wasn’t high enough???) it worked wonders for me and gave me my whole quality of life back after my first dose because I to am the same and cannot handle the physical withdrawals that comes from heroin.
The methadone did stop the withdrawels 4 sure, but having 2 pick up everyday just didnt work 4 me…i em so ova using im just totally lost at what 2 do..
@MrAHC 232646 wrote:
i’m back on it again, havin shit wi me bird so i’m bang at it again….
Why not take a read of my blog believe me your not alone in this addiction I have some of the very same issues Heroin Addiction Blog
@SugarMagnolia8 232643 wrote:
When I was 16 I met a handsome studly stud who was funny as all hell and could charm the devil. I instantly fell in love and from the day we met we were together every day. Before we officially started dating, he confessed a few things to me… one of them being he was an addict. Heroin of course. mmm…
Some friends of mine got concerned that he was just using me.. He didn’t have a car and couldn’t really keep a job. I was always driving around and paying for things. I wanted to give him everything i could….
A few months into our relationship ( as I was falling deeper and deeper in love…) He borrowed my car and didn’t bring it back when he was supposed to…. I had to call the cops on my own boyfriend (not something i expected to do at 16…) but it turned out he didn’t bring it back because he was in fact arrested for shoplifting . there i was the next day in my high school US history class when I get a phone call telling me he was in county jail. I’ve never felt so much pain in my entire life.
After he got out of jail he went to rehab for a pretty long time and recently got out. We’re not dating but… we’ve been in contact. I’ve learned that No matter how much you love a person, if that person is an addict, things are going to be rougher than rough. The lack of trust, fear of relapse…. not to mention paranoia about getting in the way of his recovery. At times I’ve just felt like nothing will ever trump his addiction. Even now that he’s been clean for a while… the drug doesn’t control him anymore but the addiction itself always will somehow. It’s like I’ve never been fully confident that he loves me at all… especially not as much as i love him.
Everyone that cares about me is constantly telling me how he’s no good and he’ll never stay clean. It just hurts to know people have such little faith in others… but then I wonder am I the foolish one for having TOO much faith? I can’t have anything BUT faith in him. I’m completely in love with him and want to see him happy. I know he can be so much because he already is. I just feel like this love I have, for an addict, is not only love but like a disease. A curse even.
None…none of this really has to do with anything…i was just reading everyone elses posts and crying….and figured writing SOMETHING myself might make me feel better…:you_crazy
I feel for you I really do but if this person you love really has beaten hi addiction why not take thing very low and see if you can rebuild things between the both of you.
Don’t get me wrong it is a long hard path rebuilding broken trust etc but I always keep the saying “If its meant to be then it will happen no matter what close to my heart”
I wish you all the best of luck with the future between the both of you
@ellie 232703 wrote:
sorry to hear it mr AHC… pick yourself up and try again ??? :group_hug
@MrAHC 232646 wrote:
i’m back on it again, havin shit wi me bird so i’m bang at it again….
Great advice here at PartyVibe were all here to help mate 🙂
methadone slowly but surely does kill u frm the inside out. it rots ur teeth, ur liver, kidney..fuck man it is seriously really bad 4 u. ask ne1 whoz been on it 4 a year if that & they’ll tell u the same.
@SRM86 435992 wrote:
The methadone did stop the withdrawels 4 sure, but having 2 pick up everyday just didnt work 4 me…i em so ova using im just totally lost at what 2 do..
Have you tried the suboxone route not 100% sure but I’ve heard you get more take homes once you’ve built a level of trust up then you do while on a methadone program.
Can I ask are you currently using if so what and how much???
If not how are you dealing with physical withdrawals & cravings?
@SRM86 435996 wrote:
methadone slowly but surely does kill u frm the inside out. it rots ur teeth, ur liver, kidney..fuck man it is seriously really bad 4 u. ask ne1 whoz been on it 4 a year if that & they’ll tell u the same.
I’m sorry I have to disagree with you on this one as I’ve found some information which you might find interesting about the long term use of methadone and its effects on the teeth body etc I have done alot of research into these statements about the dangers of short/long term use of methadone and my findings are it is very safe and pretty much not damaging whatsoever the same as OTC products such as paracetamol/codeine tablets will destroy mainly the liver not from the opiate (codeine) it contains but from the paracetamol itself hence the reason why opiates of all kinds are one of the safest and most widely used drugs all across the world.
Myth: Long-term use of methadone damages the liver, the thyroid gland and the memory.
Reality: Long-term use of methadone is safe. It will not damage your internal organs, and when you are on the correct dose, it will not interfere with your thinking. If you have a medical condition such as hepatitis or cirrhosis of the liver, methadone maintenance treatment can improve your access to medical treatment, and help you to manage the illness.
Myth: Methadone rots your teeth and bones.
Reality: This is a common myth, and although it’s not true, the reasons behind the myth deserve some consideration.
One of the side-effects of methadone, like many medications, is that it gives you a dry mouth. This can make your teeth more prone to the production of plaque, which is a major cause of gum disease and tooth decay. To protect your teeth, follow the dental routine recommended for everyone: brush and floss every day, rinse your mouth with mouthwash, go to the dentist at least twice a year, and cut sugar from your diet. Drinking plenty of water can also help to relieve dry mouth.
If you’re on methadone, and you feel like your bones are rotting, it’s probably because you’re on too low a dose. Bone ache, which may feel like bone “rot,” is a symptom of methadone withdrawal. When your dose is adjusted correctly you should not experience any aching or other symptoms of withdrawal.
those problems started after she had been on it for 25 years…thats along time, but you are right what she have been caning/injecting before she was put on M might have caused the latter problem but anyway why cant you be able to choose? as you say the damage of medicine quality morph or H is second to non to the body. Our other friend on here didnt get the good out M of as you do, people are different and should be treated individual.
…but you are the expert on this subject so I wont argue on this but only point out that i think That people should be able to go with the drug of their choice and not what everybody else think or want you to take when you are addicted. For me the goal must be to make people able to live a full filled live despite their addiction.
ive tried both. the reason i stopped the methadone is becos it is just as bad,it literally rots u frm the inside, i have friends who r on it n have been 4 yearz..their teeth r completly rotton, itz discusting. but in saying that atleast their not out scoring everyday n sticking a needle up their armz. the way i c it iz the H is just az bad az methadone so i’d rather use H or morf. i wish so bad i didnt have 2 use at all but until i have the strength 2 go cold turkey i really have no choice. Fucked up aint it
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