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Wow, a thread about nihilism on Party Vibe.
I have been a prescriber to the nihilist way of thinking for a long time, now. The way I see it, nothing has any real inherent value; if there is no afterlife, everything we do here in the present is pointless. The only reason we humans are alive, as I see it, is to procreate, just like every other species; survival of the fittest. I don’t think there is any real reason as to why we are sentient, only for the reason above.
I suppose most nihilists are hypocrites, though. With this system of beliefs, one would have to reject everything, including morals; something I would find very difficult to reject. The true nihilist would also kill him/herself; something I’m not particularly prepared to do.
Nihilism as a whole, however, does seem to make a lot more sense than some of the profound beliefs out there.
Any other nihilists here?
I see nihilism differently… i see it as the rejection of humanity as it stands now. When I read “Thus spoke Zarathustra” it’s about criticizing every flaw humans have. It’s all about being more than what we are now. It’s a difficult perspective to have as one has to be very detached. When Nietzsche talks about “Uber-Mensch”/ “Superman” it’s about being more than what we are now. That means being against war, greed, religion, intolerance. It’s about trying to achieve a status where we are all equal and being proud of our differences. The problem if you look at humans today is still the same thing : backstabbing when possible, discriminate through lack of understanding, befriend and then bully, etc. You try to help someone and then they tell you to f*** off…that’s the kind of attitude that I am personally against. And don’t tell me that it’s man’s nature because if we have managed to escape the realm of animals (thx to our conscience) then we should be able to go above this and find a new harmony where we all have the ability to respect each other. And that’s the next stage we need to reach…but that not before destroying those who want to prevent this : politicians/ariostocrats/CEO’s… ie anyone who is in power and who want to control us to keep a system where fear and consuming is supposedly all there is to humanity.
@globalloon 146344 wrote:
one of the things they tried to disprove was an experiment that observed particles of H2O as they froze
particles should freeze into a perfect shape / form
there was an experiment in the early 20th century where people were asked to say negative words (like “hate” “war” “rape”) to freezing water
the molecules froze in deformed structures
myth busters repeated the experiment but could only confirm the findings
we have powers to influence the physics of the universe in positive or negative ways, although we don’t understand how this works, scientifically / mentally speaking. only our spirit / soul can understand this
i believe in much more than science and logic. maybe evolution of the soul will one day be considered as ‘logical’ as development of scientific method
no waaaaay. i need a link to this.
they didn’t consider psychology science many years ago but they do now, so who knows.
but frankly i don’t believe in things like that because i can’t. i used to be really spiritual but now i just go by what i have evidence for.
@hat 442990 wrote:
no waaaaay. i need a link to this.
seconded
i’ve found a few things on the net but they’re all from ‘self-healing’ sights, not really scientific. it’s good that everybody is different and has different views but i think that science in the way forward and there’s that quote from that guy.. “almost everything that distinguishes the modern world from earlier centuries is attributable to science”, so if we start going believing in all these things then we’re kind of going backwards in time.
(and about the brain thing.. i read that we use almost all of our brains, but only ~3% of neurons can fire at one time? i’m not sure though because there are so many different answers :))
To me faith is just a human by-product, that was invented just to help fill answers we can’t understand. Today, and indeed thanks to science, we have the ability to start undertanding what is around us. This is partly what will help us overcome all this religious bulls**t that has made humanity so afraid of the truth : that we are just a fluke, a lucky by-product of conditions that has permitted to be what we are. Nothing more. Well that is what i believe anyway.. 🙂
There was also a reverse study done by an oriental fella called Dr. Emoto who would “put possative thoughts” into freezing water and the water would freeze in irregula shapes but still perfectly formed. There’s alot of sceptasism about it, but then something that doesn’t agree with what people allready belive is allways a bitter pill to swallow.
Hmmm… my honest opinion – nihilists have no faith in themselves, thus, no faith in anything else.
Mind you, a person that JUST relies on faith and NOTHING ELSE – isn’t exactly going to progress themselves or anybody else either.
@leveret 146343 wrote:
I tried to watch “What the bleep” on DVD recently, and thought it was the biggest pile of cods I’ve ever wasted time watching. I started making notes of some of the stupidest statements in it, intending to write about it on my weblog. By the time I’d got to three pages of scribble, about half an hour in, I decided the film was so loony that it wasn’t even worth watching, never mind writing about – so gave up and turned it off.
Basically its premise seems to be this:
Quantum mechanics says that quantum particles are affected by the act of observation;
Therefore you can affect quantum particles just by wishing they are going to do something;
Therefore you can change your life at the macroscopic scale just by wishing for things to happen;
but you don’t need to worry anyway cos God made the world and Jesus loves you.A lot of this is in the form of weasel words and run-on sentences – you do have to watch it with your ears open. But it’s basically a US evangelistic film disguised as science.
I liked that film, but I totally agree that some of it’s “just making things up”. I think there’s a good message in it, we can change anything in our own lives if we want to, but not so much on a physical level, at least not to the extent that’s made out in that film imo.
The guy’s on it who are trying to spark off the imagination are on the right track, the ones whop are proper mystics might of gotten too involved mby.
Some of the guys in that film discredited it after they saw the final cut.
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