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  • Well, look… you want to help. That much is clear p0ly. Question is, can you help? Are you a qualified (or just experienced) drugs therapist? I doubt it.

    Sometimes the best cure is a good kick in the behind, saying “Enough! you are just a walking habit that lies to feed itself!”.

    Your choices are your own… we do all need love, we die without love, hope etc. But this guy is a black hole – he’s just going to suck you dry and your friend too. In my opinion, but I’ve seen this sort of thing happen (fuck, it’s HAPPENED to me). You got to know your own limitations, put your own line in the sand.

    If he won’t help himself, you can’t help him. You are not his mother (and I suspect that is the root of his addiction).

    @Pat McDonald 477769 wrote:

    Well, look… you want to help. That much is clear p0ly. Question is, can you help? Are you a qualified (or just experienced) drugs therapist? I doubt it.

    Sometimes the best cure is a good kick in the behind, saying “Enough! you are just a walking habit that lies to feed itself!”.

    Your choices are your own… we do all need love, we die without love, hope etc. But this guy is a black hole – he’s just going to suck you dry and your friend too. In my opinion, but I’ve seen this sort of thing happen (fuck, it’s HAPPENED to me). You got to know your own limitations, put your own line in the sand.

    If he won’t help himself, you can’t help him. You are not his mother (and I suspect that is the root of his addiction).

    Did you not read my posts? lol i said he cannot be helped he can only help himself.

    He lies to everyone!! i mean i’ve watched him bang up heroin loads of times then bang on to all the people who don’t like him doing it saying he’s been off it for months and i’ve seen him say that same stuff all day everyday to people while he’s off his tits on heroin.

    if i did try and help him i’d just be another person on the list to bare face lie too. fuck that.

    But have you pointed out to him WHY he’s addicated? Getting him to admit that might be a start – he is using the lies as a smokescreen to hide his own pain. It was a just an idea, it might actually help him to help himself – and you to give you a boost that you are TRYING to help him help himself.

    Ya dig? <- TERRIBLE joke attempt

    @Pat McDonald 477775 wrote:

    But have you pointed out to him WHY he’s addicated? Getting him to admit that might be a start – he is using the lies as a smokescreen to hide his own pain. It was a just an idea, it might actually help him to help himself – and you to give you a boost that you are TRYING to help him help himself.

    Ya dig? <- TERRIBLE joke attempt

    I do not have a scooby fucking DOO why he is addicted… probably cos he’s a selfish bastard and selfish bastards do not want to listen to me who takes these drugs also to tell them they cannot do it.

    I’ve seen people try to help him all the time and all he does is throw it back in their face by lying to them for money and buying heroin then injecting it in their house against their will when they have tiny kids in the house.

    Well, probably one day he’ll get Fentanyl rather than smack, won’t notice, and will cease being a problem to you. You can then cheer; “Thank you God! Another Arsehole Down!”.

    Or you could try to point out the basic problem and then keep a safe distance. Probably more pro-active.

    @Pat McDonald 477783 wrote:

    Well, probably one day he’ll get Fentanyl rather than smack, won’t notice, and will cease being a problem to you. You can then cheer; “Thank you God! Another Arsehole Down!”.

    Or you could try to point out the basic problem and then keep a safe distance. Probably more pro-active.

    Yeah i’d really cheer thank god that someone i know died of an opiate overdose. People do not inject Fentanyl as it usually comes in patches so highly doubtful that’d ever happen and i tell a lot of my friends that they shouldn’t be Alcoholics and drink everyday but do you think that helps? no

    Did you know someone who lived in their flat died 3 months ago from Alcoholism and drug abuse? no you didn’t, did he learn? No. Would me saying don’t inject heroin and sniff k all day help? no it wouldn’t. he’s made his choice and whatever you say to him lies will come out his mouth and just disrespect you that he thinks you’re that stupid to believe him.

    Well, try this then. Every time he asks for money, hit him with a club.

    Eventually he’ll stop asking for money and will ask you why you are hitting him.

    Tough love approach – can work.

    Darling, I’ve lived on a council estate for 12 years. Death from substance abuse is pretty common here. Not enough love and happiness to go round – and rather than organise some, people just live for cheap buzzes. Sad, but true.

    @Pat McDonald 477790 wrote:

    Well, try this then. Every time he asks for money, hit him with a club.

    Eventually he’ll stop asking for money and will ask you why you are hitting him.

    Tough love approach – can work.

    Darling, I’ve lived on a council estate for 12 years. Death from substance abuse is pretty common here. Not enough love and happiness to go round – and rather than organise some, people just live for cheap buzzes. Sad, but true.

    Yeah good idea, let’s physically abuse someone who already is known for punching people while at work in there new decent job? Stupid.

    Ok so people in your estate died of drug use ‘darling’, what’s your point? the fact is it was a close mate who lived in the same house as him and he watched him die doing the same thing as him, you’d think that’d be a wake up call over me saying ‘DON’T DO IT’ then hitting him with a club.

    Well, it’s an idea. Whether it works or not I don’t know. “Oooh! Physical violence! Evil evil evil evil”.

    Darling, you get out of life what you put in. No more, no less. But I’ll let you live it and find out the hard way – too many people have bullshitted you in the past for you to take my word, here and now.

    Hope it turns out for the best. “Grief is the price we pay for love”.

    @Pat McDonald 477796 wrote:

    Well, it’s an idea. Whether it works or not I don’t know. “Oooh! Physical violence! Evil evil evil evil”.

    Darling, you get out of life what you put in. No more, no less. But I’ll let you live it and find out the hard way – too many people have bullshitted you in the past for you to take my word, here and now.

    Hope it turns out for the best. “Grief is the price we pay for love”.

    You do not know the guy so sadly your advice is not needed.

    And you honestly think your advice is good promoting violence… *face palm*

    I don’t have a problem with violence as long as it’s two people consenting to it.

    FIGHT!!!!!!!!

    @Keyser Söze 477802 wrote:

    FIGHT!!!!!!!!

    I don’t advocate clubbing people.

    @p0ly 477798 wrote:

    You do not know the guy so sadly your advice is not needed.

    And you honestly think your advice is good promoting violence… *face palm*

    I don’t have a problem with violence as long as it’s two people consenting to it.

    Far as I can see, sucker is asking for a good slap at the very least. Anyway, that’s just one therapy method. Quite frankly I don’t think you’ll do anything at all, you’re just an attention whore that thinks the whole universe was created for their own personal amusement.

    I’m out of this thread – like trying to use a kleenex on an oil spill.

    @Pat McDonald 477808 wrote:

    Far as I can see, sucker is asking for a good slap at the very least. Anyway, that’s just one therapy method. Quite frankly I don’t think you’ll do anything at all, you’re just an attention whore that thinks the whole universe was created for their own personal amusement.

    I’m out of this thread – like trying to use a kleenex on an oil spill.

    I never personally attacked you, says a lot old man.

    @Pat McDonald 477808 wrote:

    Far as I can see, sucker is asking for a good slap at the very least. Anyway, that’s just one therapy method. .

    This is one therapy method I’ve never heard of, unless your referring to Jezza kyle lets ryle them up method – that quite frankly doesnt work at all and make a whole heap of trouble

    this guy will decide for himself (as P0ly says) IF and WHEN he wants to stop and take a pause – and from the sounds of this thread he tried – but the reality is an opiate addiction life cycle (statistically) is around 12 years – so his friends / girlfriend may be in for a long wait,

    he prob wont decide to change until he hits ‘rock bottom’ and has lost all he holds dear – which is in therapy terms the time where change is sought…..

    he may find NA helpful, alot of younger lads are getting in to the rooms, and just because he’s had a wealthy supportive family, non of us can judge his experience – addiction can hit anyy one for all sorts of reasons no matter what class, race or sex (etc) unless we can read his mind we don’t know whats gone on or what he has experienced – and I can say this from a slight point of authority having listened to people in a similar situations stories over the years..

    the only advise I can suggest to P0ly is to keep yourself safe from it all

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