Party Vibe

Oneboy .. did you even read that article you posted a link to??? …

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[h=3]Abstract[/h]A large number of cathinone derivatives have shown a wide range of bioactive properties, attracting great interest from communities associated with pharmaceutical research. Some of these derivatives have gained popularity as so-called recreational ‘legal highs’ due to their availability on the Internet and high street shops. A previous study described the qualitative analysis of 24 ‘legal high’ Energy-1 (NRG-1) and NRG-2 products obtained from 18 websites following the ban on mephedrone and derivatives in April 2010. The majority of these products contained a mixture of cathinones just carrying a new label. Here, three additional cathinone products have been detected; two from an NRG-1 sample and one from an NRG-3 sample. This report describes their identification. NRG-1 sample 1 consisted of a mixture of 4 cathinones namely 4-fluoromethcathinone (1), 1-(3,4-methylenedioxyphenyl)-2-(methylamino)pentan-1-one (pentylone, 2), 3,4-methylenedioxy-α-pyrrolidinobutyrophenone (MDPBP, 3) and 3,4-methylenedioxypyrovalerone (MDPV, 4). The sample labelled as NRG-3 (mislabelled with the chemical structure of mephedrone) consisted of a mixture of 4-methyl-α-pyrrolidinopropiophenone (MPPP, 5) and (2), whereas the remaining NRG-1 sample 2 (also mislabelled with the chemical structure of mephedrone) consisted of a mixture of (2) and (3). Qualitative analyses were carried out by GC-(EI/CI)-MS, NMR spectroscopy and confirmation by preparation of standards. The preparation of brominated precursors carrying the 3,4-methylenedioxyphenyl nucleus revealed extensive α,α-dibromination: the mass spectral and NMR data of these intermediates are also presented and discussed. Copyright © 2010 John Wiley & Sons, Ltd.”

I always keep the envelopes that come with my RC orders, so I actually have some good evidence.

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Either it’s a mighty big co-incidence that both batches had identical effects at identical dosages, this dealer is going to extraordinary lengths to appear to be 2 different dealers, or there actually is agreement about what NRG-3 is ‘supposed’ to be (with lots of supporting evidence).

Like I said, I spent 2 full days reading all the research papers I could find that had done tests on NRG-3 (I don’t give a toss about the other NRGs) and, like I already said, there were just two mixtures found:

1. 4-methyl-α-pyrrolidinopropiophenone (Analysis of NRG []legal highs’ in the UK: identification and formation of novel cathinones – Brandt – 2010 – Drug Testing and Analysis – Wiley Online Library)
2. BZP and 3-TFMPP (http://eprints.lincoln.ac.uk/3956/2/…ed_Version.pdf)

So, this is the evidence. I’m not sure what the agenda is, but statements that are not backed by evidence are simply worthless misinformation.

Consider this statement: “Ivory Wave” was widely known to contain MDPV. If you were sold “Ivory Wave” that didn’t contain MDPV, you would probably be disappointed and not use that dealer again.

Now consider this: “NRG-3” was widely known to contain X. If you were sold “NRG-3” that didn’t contain X, you would probably be disappointed and not use that dealer again.

So, it’s not yet widely known what NRG-3 contains. Largely because any sensible discussion, using the principles of reason and evidence, is largely impossible in the face of outspoken people who push their agendas, without reason or evidence.

Meantime, because this is the #1 Google hit if you search for “NRG-3 Experience” I hope that some other people who have evidence (experiences, links to research papers about NRG-3 I might’ve missed etc.) might come forward and help us build a better picture.

Otherwise, we might as well close down these forums except for people who own their own mass spectrometers because the argument “you could be taking anything” holds true for any drug you order over the internet: prescription, branded, named by ingredient or sold only by bizarre brand name.

oneboywonder nrg-3 is a pile of crap mixed up and sold without a chemical name. other products are sold with a chemical name, generally look the same and give the same effects. also you can test them and they’ll come back most probably what it is.

NRG-3 is a noobs drug.

oneboywonder why are you trying to convince people on this board that it is actually a single drug? What is the chemical name of Nrg3? The chemical name for ecstasy is (3,4-Methylenedioxymethamphetamine). Your telling us its a single drug then quoting 2 mixtures that you found? With 2 different fucking chemicals.I dont even know why I care, you can keep your NRG3/NRG231343, and I can keep my good, real drugs.

@oneboywonder 451067 wrote:

TheLostOne: “The chemical name for ecstasy is (3,4-Methylenedioxymethamphetamine)”

Actually, there is a huge amount of evidence showing that the pills sold as Ecstasy rarely contain MDMA. Some have got MDEA or MDA in them, where the chemist has screwed up. Some of them are just fakes, with no psychoactive chemicals. Some of them contain Amphetamine, BZP and a whole host of other chemicals.

Well I was just stating that ecstasy is a nick name for a specific chemical(Unlike NRG3). There being adulterants sold as ecstasy has nothing to do with it. Thats like saying ketamine is not really as specific drug because someone was sold fake ketamine.

why is NRG 3 not sold by and chemical producing companies, or reliable vendors? Do the baggies it come in have a structure or name on?

Also don’t buy pills, get MDMA crystals generaly much better quality.

@oneboywonder 451089 wrote:

Once I find out what my 2 reliable dealers are actually selling, I will certainly purchase by chemical name(s) instead of this stupid “NRG-3” misnomer.

What’s sold by internet dealers or written on packets is irrelevant for any drug, unless you’re purchasing from a national or multinational lab with a reputation to protect, shareholders, corporate governance and the likelihood that they would be out of business if they sold crap.

I wish I could get hold of MDMA crystal – it’s been a long-held ambition of mine to acquire some… hypothetically if I was the law-breaking type.

You do realise that some supliers don’t mix/make MRG products themselves … some buy it from other suplyers.