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Cj is new here so please go easy. CJ would like to start by saying how annoyed he is as he spent 40 minutes writing a detailed reply to this thread. However, cj forgot to click the remember me button when he registered and he was not logged in, thus his post was deleted causing cj much frustration, however cj has decided to write it again as he feels you deserve to hear cj’s experience of NRG3. Also, it is cj’s birthday and he and friends are already a little wonky from our research, so he apologises in advance for any mistakes, but cj isnt going to spend as long writing this one as he did the last.
2 days ago cj acquired some NRG3 to test with some loyal researchers in preparation of cj’s BIG birthday bash tomorrow, (Note, today is a small, close friends only kinda thing) cj has been sceptical of RCs since the conterversial banning for the UK’s favourite RC 4-MMC (meow meow) however cj, with the help of various threads; including but not limited to this one decided to try it. CJ got hold of some from a very reliable source (cannot state do to forum rules) So, cj started by dabbing a small amount on his tongue to test for an allergic reaction; (this is recommended with all RCs) nothing, good to go.
Cj and his researchers started small-ish (20mg) although no immediate effects, after a few minutes cj noticed he did feel different so he and his researchers decided to upscale to larger doses (50mg) shorty after cj’s hands became clammy, he felt good, it was nice, cj liked, a short duration passed; no more than 5 minutes of complete silence while cj and his researchers came to grips with its effects, we liked 🙂 cj and co redosed once again (50mg) and very suddenly things began to change, cj felt warm, like he was being comforted by a close friend, but not the kind of euphoria one gets from mandy.
Cj felt the need to listen to drum n bass as cj is a bit of a DnB junkie, so without hesitation, Pendulum-Hold your Colour (if you havent listened to this album, stop reading right now and youtube it, better yet, show love n buy the album, sorry if that was against the rules, marketing n all) was blaring out of cj’s home cinema system and cj and his researchers were loving life, chatting absolute wocka (bullshit) but fully understanding one another, empathy and a nice buzz, half hour passed and cj and his researchers wanted to seriously test this RC so we good give a good, honest review (was always cj’s intention to write this review) so rather large doses (100mg) started being being crafted on cj’s new glass table. Cj fell in love with this stuff, it was nice, a nice, yet mellow buzz (cj knows this is a contradiction but is sure fellow researchers will understand what he means) cj was dancing, laughing and feeling good, at this point things became a little reckless, which cj must add is rather out of character for him.
Cj’s friend, alcohol got involved ( Note, THIS WAS SILLY AS CJ WAS TRYING A NEW AND UNKNOWN SUNBSTANCE, HE DOES NOT IN ANY WAY RECOMMOMEND THIS!!!!) and things became a bit messy, in a good was (if thats possible) CJ remembers feeling very good, the constant mellow buzz was really nice and didnt make cj feel like his heart was gunna explode out of his chest, like some other sunstances. Cj danced and danced and danced untill CJ felt the need to go out on the town (NOT A WISE MOVE, IF IT’S YOUR FIRST TIME ON SOMETHING I KNOW) so he and his researchers redosed for the journey, wanting these effects to last we upscaled once again, to probably about 150-200mg, these were ridiculous lines and this was NOT sensible in anyway, 1g went just doing these lines alone, there were 5 researchers including myself. From this point on CJ’s memory is a bit all over the place, he believes it to be from the alcohol, not the NRG, as it usually happens when cj drinks too much.
But he does remember having a great night and meeting new people and ending up back at a friends house 😉 IMPORTANT NOTE!!! Cock rot is still a problem with this stuff just as it was with meow……. Cj can usually overcome this problem with a bit of help, but not that night, the combination of brewers droop and cock rot was too much for cj, morale of the story, dont expect any action if you have taken a substancial amount of this RC. But was an amazing night, cj doesnt like to think that drugs make a night good, however he feels that it made a big impact of his night 🙂 Summary. A good product, believe it to be pure (from cjs source anyway) nice buzz, nice empathy, slight euphoria (again, nothing compared to mandy, so dont buy this if your looking for a full on euphoric buzz, MDMA is what your looking for…..good luck) all in all a good RC that cj likes and believes there is room in the market for this, oh and comedown isnt all that bad, if you can handle a mandy come down this will be easy. HOWEVER, there are downs as always, it is unknown exactly what is in it, which is a problem (if anyone knows, please let cj know) and after a while cj constantly felt the need to drink water, this worried cj slightly at first as cj knows drinking too much water too quickly can interfere with his salt balance and cause problems (similar to MDMA) but cj took the usual ecstasy precautions, sipping water, forcing himself to urinate every now and again, TBH cj is just being anal now and trying to get across every little detail, which is pointless.
JUST, PLEASE BE CAREFUL when taking this substance, especially if you are new or new ish to substance and RCs, cj thinks mixing with other substance would not be a good idea. This RC is different from others so take the time to get used the effects before you start going for massive lines (CJ knows that once again this is a contradiction, as cj did big lines, but cj is relatively experienced with substance, especially RCs, therefore may have had some tolerance to it) Thank you for reading Cjs review, if you would like to know more, please do not hesitate to contact cj and he will give you an email address so you can contact him. Cj knows that this review ended up being rather extensive, but by this point cj is pretty far gone, not gunna lie, took cj longer to write this one than the original, bad times for cj. Once again thank you and cj sincerely hopes this will help you in some way. Have an amazing weekend, any1 from torquay n going out tomorrow must give cj a shout and get involved in the partaayyy! BYE! GOD cj is completely cooked right now.
sorry guys CJ is sure you are all sick of him by now but wants you to know he will be doing nrg3 again tomorrow in completely different circumstances. Tomorrow is cj’s BIG birthday bash, so will be messy from the word go. CJ will once again write a review ( a much smaller one that his last) about his experience on that particular night. Thanks again, Cj apologises for being a cooked mess.
Just found this forum and felt compelled to post something, like some others out there I have been on the search for the new mephedrone or at least a new good legal high. After having no luck for a couple of months now wasting money on stuff like mdai and nrg2, having a whole gram in one hour trying to feel any type of effect seemed pointless. Now I have just done my first line of nrg3, and i think I have found something good here.
Here’s my experience
Firstly I recommend snorting!! It was much less harsh as meow meow. But maybe I just got a shit batch?!? Anyway 1 hour later it kicks in, feeling really happy, not so much euphoric but definitely good, lots of energy, senses heightened, music sounding better than normal, dancing around living room, I must say I wouldn’t say its as good as meow meow due to slight lack of euphoria, but finally found something with a kick and that lasts a real good period of time. I cant stop typing and want to do a thousand things at once! Not a lot needed either can see how some folks might over do it, so small lines/bombs are fine people, but I’m so glad I have finally found something that works, nrg2 and mdai might as well be talcum powder compared to this, we’re on to something here people, about a 3rd of a gram has lasted 10 hours now, good stuff, hope this has informed people a bit more, happy to help!
I just nicked someone else’s review and changed it to how I think, great great drug just still not as good as meow meow!!
p.s. NO DICK LEFT!!!!
p.p.s This took me 30 minutes, but I enjoyed every second. :love:
copy and pasted from what I wrought in another thread just 30 mins ago …
There is actualy no specific RC called NRG3 … It’s a random mix of chemicals either illigal or legal RC’s this is why some stories say it’s good … and some say it’s very bad. You really don’t know what’s in it as it will totaly vary from vendor to vendor and even batch to batch from the same vendor!
P.S. I can’t read your posts CJ as I get 3 lines in and want to kill my self. I can’t stand people who talk about them selves in the third person … it creeps me out as it’s what people with cronic mental illness’s do sometimes.
Hi,
This is going to be a long post about my experiences with NRG-3, so before anybody gets bored and scrolls past it, I’ll say the reasons why I’m posting:
It’s customary with these experience posts to say a little about your personal experience as a psychonaught. I was hooked on pills for 18 months back in the late 90s (I say hooked… but I mean I used to take 1 pill a week). Then I didn’t do much except mushrooms occasionally (while they were legal). I cottoned on to Methylone thanks to the widespread advertising campaign organised by the tabloid newspapers. I took that a couple of times a week for a few months (before the ban). Since then, I’ve tried all the new RCs (5-ID, MDAI, MPA, 6-APB, Jolly Green Granules) but nothing has really ‘grabbed me’… until now.
Sooo, let’s get started with my NRG-3 experiences. All doses were measured on a mg accuracy scale and insufflated.
Experience One
T0:00 – I measure out 30mg. Cut into 2 long lines and insufflate.
T0:15 – Mild lift in my mood. Quite subtle. Feels like a threshold dose.
T0:40 – I measure out 40mg and insufflate.
T1:00 – I feel a much stronger effect than after the first dose. Not speedy in the sense I don’t feel like I want to run around cleaning the house. Definite sense of a mild stimulant rush though.
T1:15 – Very speedy in another sense: I feel quite horny and touching myself feels good.
T3:15 – Have been playing with myself non-stop, but feel like the effects are wearing off. I’m aware that I’m starting to ‘fiend’ (never done that before!) but I think to myself “hey, 120mg doesn’t sound like much”. I measure out 50mg and insufflate.
T4:30 – “Wow! I’ve been messing around for ages”. The dopaminergic/speedy effects depart very gradually, but my addictive-compulsion to keep fiddling with myself persists until I don’t really know why I’m still doing it except I’m kinda frustrated to be chasing a feeling that’s somehow not there anymore.
T5:00 – I’m now quite aware of my addiction/compulsion to redose. Starting to feel a bit crappy (mild nausea, tiredness). I use the classic addict line to myself: “this will be the last one”. I measure out another 50mg. 170mg total now.
T7:30 – “Whoa! It’s getting late” (it’s about 1am by now). I decide to try and calm down… after one last dose, to help me sleep, of couse: I measure 30mg. 200mg total now.
T10:30 – “Over 10 hours. That’s ridiculous. Must get sleep now” – fell asleep soon after, quite easily actually.
T13:30 – Woke up. Feeling wide awake but side effects are quite negative – anxiety, thumping heart, restlessness, racing mind, time seems to be passing really slowly.
T15:00 – After what seems like a lifetime of horrible comedown in super-slow time, I decide that a “little dose” wouldn’t hurt to “ease the comedown” – I’ve basically spent the last 2 and a half hours justifying this to myself. Measure and take 35mg. 235mg total.
T15:15 – Temporary alleviation of comedown symptoms
T15:30 – Feeling like crap again
I downloaded a new computer game to take my mind of everything. In retrospect, downloading a puzzle game that was really tough and required full concentration was the best thing EVER to take my mind of my comedown. Played it until about 9/10pm at night and then tried to sleep.
I was restless until about 2:30am, and then managed to fall asleep. Woke up feeling wide awake at 7am (approx 40 hours after starting this stupid escapade). Heart pounding, rising anxiety/panic, still feeling really ‘drugged’, body is doing involuntary ‘jerks’, time is passing at a ridiculously slow rate, convinced I will have to hospitalise myself.
I felt a lot better when I got up at about 8am (felt like a lifetime between 7am and 8am though!) and started to busy myself around the house. The ‘tics’ – involuntary muscle spasms – were still a problem though, and if I sat still for more than a few minutes I would start to have a panic attack.
I was confused that I was still feeling the effects of the drug so strongly. I decided to douche my nose in the shower. This brought back the full effects of the drug for an hour or so.
By 9:30am I decide to go on a long (3.5hr) journey and this was great to stop the panic attacks by having to focus on something. After this, the panic attacks seemed to have gone but the tics/spasms persisted for another 6 to 8 hours, with another night of disturbed sleep.
I would say that total length of time I felt the effects of the drug and very strong comedown was circa 72 hours, not including the days afterwards where I felt very depressed, dysphoric.
Experience Two
This was approx 2 weeks after the first. Why try it again? Well, I wanted to see if I could avoid the comedown at a much reduced dose.
T0:00 – 50mg
T0:15 – Subtle rush
T4:00 – Have messed around with myself for 4 hours, but just frustrating. Have shower. Douche nose.
T5:00 – Starting to feel a bit crappy, but not terrible
T7:00 – Trying to sleep, very difficult, restless
T9:00 – Fall asleep
Next day: feel a little washed-out, but not too bad. All-in-all, the experience wasn’t worth it though. Comedown wasn’t bad, but effects weren’t great either.
Experience Three
I decided to ‘use up’ what was left – 40mg – 5 days later. Effects barely reached threshold, but my sleep was disturbed. No comedown really. Not worth it. Said I wouldn’t do it again.
Experience Four
2 weeks later, I ordered some more and eagerly anticipated its arrival. I hesitated about taking some for all of 30 seconds when it arrived, and dived right in there.
T0:00 – 50mg
T3:00 – 50mg
T6:00 – Positive effects gone
T7:00 – Strong need to urinate all the time. Feeling of trapped wind making me feel nauseous.
T12:30 – Negative feelings persist until I manage to fall asleep, around this time (2:30am)
Woke up at 7am with a milder version of the first experience comedown effects: thumping heart, racing mind, slow passage of time, anxiety. Managed to distract myself with some internet surfing. Nausea and feeling a strong need to urinate were the main problems this time. Managed to nap for an hour at around 5pm though.
Approx 30 hours after having started, I was getting quite a strong tic (body tensing/jerking uncontrollably).
Second night of sleep was disturbed, but I maybe got 7 hours and felt mostly normal the next day.
Experience Five
Just a day after getting over my comedown from the previous experience, I decide I want to try an ‘inbetween’ dose – trying to hit the sweet spot between lame positive effects and dreadful comedowns. I had a dose of 60-70mg in my head.
T0:00 – I measure 50mg. Divide it approx 2/3 and 1/3 and then make four long lines out of the larger line. I’m extremely thorough with the chopping this time and make sure the lines don’t have any clumping. I insufflate 3 of the 4 lines.
T0:10 – I don’t feel much of an effect, so I insufflate the remaining line and leave the other little pile untouched.
T2:30 – It’s had quite a good, but very subtle effect, but strangely it can feel quite a strong effect if you relax and allow the effects to find you. Anyhow, I elect to take the remaining little pile.
T3:30 – Effects are waning. I decide to douche my nose. This boots everything for a little while.
T4:30 – Another 10mg boosts things for a few minutes
T5:30 – A final nasal douche takes the edge of a slight comedown. Main discomfort is the feeling of a full bladder and bloated stomach.
T8:00 – I haven’t eaten anything all day so I have some toast, which actually really helps the nausea and bloated stomach feeling.
After this, I felt washed-out, a bit cold and clammy, restless and increasingly my body was slightly restless. Food helped a lot though, and I almost felt normal after my evening meal. Hard to get to sleep. Woke up with a similar mild tic in my limbs. Trying to relax and lie-in was difficult, but not impossible.
Postives/Negatives
To be honest, I think you could miss the subtle effects of this drug if you didn’t know what to look for. I can see that people might end up taking really dangerously high doses of this while trying to find a dosage threshold. It’s also quite compulsive to re-dose.
I’m not sure if dancing or other physical activity would be enhanced by this drug (suspect not). My concentration was definitely improved. It’s not really a euphoric drug or one that gives much of a feeling of well-being or contentedness (maybe very mildly).
To be blunt… this chem only seems to work as an amplifier for other dopaminergic agonists. My own experience, and guesses about what might be good on this drug are:
The side effects that I experienced at various dosages are:
WARNING!!!
So I was quite well aware that people had had some trainwreck experiences on this chem (one guy took 800mg and sounds like he damaged his heart) but I thought I could just dabble and experiment and keep it all under control. I was wrong.
My first time got out of control. In the aftermath, I was convinced I might’ve done some permanent neurological damage and induced Parkinsons in myself. The symptoms are so similar: the tics and tremors. I also read about somebody else who took a larger dose than me and ended up ‘freezing’ which is what happens to very late-stage Parkinsons sufferers.
However, I’ve continued to ‘experiment’ (abuse?) because I’ve convinced myself that I can find a ‘safe’ dose and avoid the dreadful side effects. I’m taking dopamine precursors (like L-Tyrosine) to try and help my brain to replenish dopamine and hopefully avoid neurotoxicity, but I have no idea whether that works or not.
Never before has drug experimentation presented specific evidence that I’m doing long-term damage to my health. Also experimentation has never had a significant negative impact on my ambitions and goals in life. However, a combination of shocking symptoms of neurological trauma, post-comedown depression and wasted days taking the drug and getting over the side effects… things have gotten out of hand!
Conclusion
18 months as a teenager, experimenting with pills left no legacy of ill-health. I got bored, moved on, and have had a successful career for 12+ years since then without a second thought for that tiny slice of history.
Methylone didn’t seem to be having any negative health side effects. My guess is that I would’ve gotten bored of that too after a short while.
NRG-3 seems to be way more addictive and the side effects – in my untrained opinion – seem to indicate something pretty crappy is happening to your brain.
This is my final word: politicians have created a situation, where adults who wish to experiment with drugs must choose between street drugs (illegal, unknown adulterants, might not even be the drug it’s supposed to be) and a plethora of new drugs that we know nothing about. The ironic (and upsetting) thing is that the demonised illegal drugs are probably safer than the legal ones, given they have such a long history of use & abuse – we know the side effects, how to treat the addictions and deal with the overdoses.
@oneboywonder 450729 wrote:
Hi,
This is going to be a long post about my experiences with NRG-3, so before anybody gets bored and scrolls past it, I’ll say the reasons why I’m posting:
- I’ve had some great experiences with this RC
- I’ve had some dreadful experiences
- I’m addicted (having not been addicted to ANYTHING for 10 years) but I think this RC could have really bad health consequences for long-term abusers: my suspicion (gut feel) is that it might lead to early-onset Parkinsons. But yet, I can’t drag myself away!
It’s customary with these experience posts to say a little about your personal experience as a psychonaught. I was hooked on pills for 18 months back in the late 90s (I say hooked… but I mean I used to take 1 pill a week). Then I didn’t do much except mushrooms occasionally (while they were legal). I cottoned on to Methylone thanks to the widespread advertising campaign organised by the tabloid newspapers. I took that a couple of times a week for a few months (before the ban). Since then, I’ve tried all the new RCs (5-ID, MDAI, MPA, 6-APB, Jolly Green Granules) but nothing has really ‘grabbed me’… until now.
Sooo, let’s get started with my NRG-3 experiences. All doses were measured on a mg accuracy scale and insufflated.
Experience One
T0:00 – I measure out 30mg. Cut into 2 long lines and insufflate.
T0:15 – Mild lift in my mood. Quite subtle. Feels like a threshold dose.
T0:40 – I measure out 40mg and insufflate.
T1:00 – I feel a much stronger effect than after the first dose. Not speedy in the sense I don’t feel like I want to run around cleaning the house. Definite sense of a mild stimulant rush though.
T1:15 – Very speedy in another sense: I feel quite horny and touching myself feels good.
T3:15 – Have been playing with myself non-stop, but feel like the effects are wearing off. I’m aware that I’m starting to ‘fiend’ (never done that before!) but I think to myself “hey, 120mg doesn’t sound like much”. I measure out 50mg and insufflate.
T4:30 – “Wow! I’ve been messing around for ages”. The dopaminergic/speedy effects depart very gradually, but my addictive-compulsion to keep fiddling with myself persists until I don’t really know why I’m still doing it except I’m kinda frustrated to be chasing a feeling that’s somehow not there anymore.
T5:00 – I’m now quite aware of my addiction/compulsion to redose. Starting to feel a bit crappy (mild nausea, tiredness). I use the classic addict line to myself: “this will be the last one”. I measure out another 50mg. 170mg total now.
T7:30 – “Whoa! It’s getting late” (it’s about 1am by now). I decide to try and calm down… after one last dose, to help me sleep, of couse: I measure 30mg. 200mg total now.
T10:30 – “Over 10 hours. That’s ridiculous. Must get sleep now” – fell asleep soon after, quite easily actually.
T13:30 – Woke up. Feeling wide awake but side effects are quite negative – anxiety, thumping heart, restlessness, racing mind, time seems to be passing really slowly.
T15:00 – After what seems like a lifetime of horrible comedown in super-slow time, I decide that a “little dose” wouldn’t hurt to “ease the comedown” – I’ve basically spent the last 2 and a half hours justifying this to myself. Measure and take 35mg. 235mg total.
T15:15 – Temporary alleviation of comedown symptoms
T15:30 – Feeling like crap againI downloaded a new computer game to take my mind of everything. In retrospect, downloading a puzzle game that was really tough and required full concentration was the best thing EVER to take my mind of my comedown. Played it until about 9/10pm at night and then tried to sleep.
I was restless until about 2:30am, and then managed to fall asleep. Woke up feeling wide awake at 7am (approx 40 hours after starting this stupid escapade). Heart pounding, rising anxiety/panic, still feeling really ‘drugged’, body is doing involuntary ‘jerks’, time is passing at a ridiculously slow rate, convinced I will have to hospitalise myself.
I felt a lot better when I got up at about 8am (felt like a lifetime between 7am and 8am though!) and started to busy myself around the house. The ‘tics’ – involuntary muscle spasms – were still a problem though, and if I sat still for more than a few minutes I would start to have a panic attack.
I was confused that I was still feeling the effects of the drug so strongly. I decided to douche my nose in the shower. This brought back the full effects of the drug for an hour or so.
By 9:30am I decide to go on a long (3.5hr) journey and this was great to stop the panic attacks by having to focus on something. After this, the panic attacks seemed to have gone but the tics/spasms persisted for another 6 to 8 hours, with another night of disturbed sleep.
I would say that total length of time I felt the effects of the drug and very strong comedown was circa 72 hours, not including the days afterwards where I felt very depressed, dysphoric.
Experience Two
This was approx 2 weeks after the first. Why try it again? Well, I wanted to see if I could avoid the comedown at a much reduced dose.T0:00 – 50mg
T0:15 – Subtle rush
T4:00 – Have messed around with myself for 4 hours, but just frustrating. Have shower. Douche nose.
T5:00 – Starting to feel a bit crappy, but not terrible
T7:00 – Trying to sleep, very difficult, restless
T9:00 – Fall asleepNext day: feel a little washed-out, but not too bad. All-in-all, the experience wasn’t worth it though. Comedown wasn’t bad, but effects weren’t great either.
Experience Three
I decided to ‘use up’ what was left – 40mg – 5 days later. Effects barely reached threshold, but my sleep was disturbed. No comedown really. Not worth it. Said I wouldn’t do it again.Experience Four
2 weeks later, I ordered some more and eagerly anticipated its arrival. I hesitated about taking some for all of 30 seconds when it arrived, and dived right in there.T0:00 – 50mg
T3:00 – 50mg
T6:00 – Positive effects gone
T7:00 – Strong need to urinate all the time. Feeling of trapped wind making me feel nauseous.
T12:30 – Negative feelings persist until I manage to fall asleep, around this time (2:30am)Woke up at 7am with a milder version of the first experience comedown effects: thumping heart, racing mind, slow passage of time, anxiety. Managed to distract myself with some internet surfing. Nausea and feeling a strong need to urinate were the main problems this time. Managed to nap for an hour at around 5pm though.
Approx 30 hours after having started, I was getting quite a strong tic (body tensing/jerking uncontrollably).
Second night of sleep was disturbed, but I maybe got 7 hours and felt mostly normal the next day.
Experience Five
Just a day after getting over my comedown from the previous experience, I decide I want to try an ‘inbetween’ dose – trying to hit the sweet spot between lame positive effects and dreadful comedowns. I had a dose of 60-70mg in my head.T0:00 – I measure 50mg. Divide it approx 2/3 and 1/3 and then make four long lines out of the larger line. I’m extremely thorough with the chopping this time and make sure the lines don’t have any clumping. I insufflate 3 of the 4 lines.
T0:10 – I don’t feel much of an effect, so I insufflate the remaining line and leave the other little pile untouched.
T2:30 – It’s had quite a good, but very subtle effect, but strangely it can feel quite a strong effect if you relax and allow the effects to find you. Anyhow, I elect to take the remaining little pile.
T3:30 – Effects are waning. I decide to douche my nose. This boots everything for a little while.
T4:30 – Another 10mg boosts things for a few minutes
T5:30 – A final nasal douche takes the edge of a slight comedown. Main discomfort is the feeling of a full bladder and bloated stomach.
T8:00 – I haven’t eaten anything all day so I have some toast, which actually really helps the nausea and bloated stomach feeling.After this, I felt washed-out, a bit cold and clammy, restless and increasingly my body was slightly restless. Food helped a lot though, and I almost felt normal after my evening meal. Hard to get to sleep. Woke up with a similar mild tic in my limbs. Trying to relax and lie-in was difficult, but not impossible.
Postives/Negatives
To be honest, I think you could miss the subtle effects of this drug if you didn’t know what to look for. I can see that people might end up taking really dangerously high doses of this while trying to find a dosage threshold. It’s also quite compulsive to re-dose.I’m not sure if dancing or other physical activity would be enhanced by this drug (suspect not). My concentration was definitely improved. It’s not really a euphoric drug or one that gives much of a feeling of well-being or contentedness (maybe very mildly).
To be blunt… this chem only seems to work as an amplifier for other dopaminergic agonists. My own experience, and guesses about what might be good on this drug are:
- Sex/masturbation (slow, not vigorous or energetic though!)
- Smoking (maybe… I don’t smoke… never tried)
- Combinations with other dopaminergic agonists (not tried)
The side effects that I experienced at various dosages are:
- Obsessive behaviour (LOL!)
- Anxiety
- Panic attacks
- Time dilation
- Increased pulse
- Increased blood pressure
- Feeling cold / shivering
- Nausea
- Bladder discomfort
- Restless limbs / uncontrollable jerking (lol!) / tics
- Insomnia
- Dysphoria (in much later stages of comedown)
WARNING!!!
So I was quite well aware that people had had some trainwreck experiences on this chem (one guy took 800mg and sounds like he damaged his heart) but I thought I could just dabble and experiment and keep it all under control. I was wrong.My first time got out of control. In the aftermath, I was convinced I might’ve done some permanent neurological damage and induced Parkinsons in myself. The symptoms are so similar: the tics and tremors. I also read about somebody else who took a larger dose than me and ended up ‘freezing’ which is what happens to very late-stage Parkinsons sufferers.
However, I’ve continued to ‘experiment’ (abuse?) because I’ve convinced myself that I can find a ‘safe’ dose and avoid the dreadful side effects. I’m taking dopamine precursors (like L-Tyrosine) to try and help my brain to replenish dopamine and hopefully avoid neurotoxicity, but I have no idea whether that works or not.
Never before has drug experimentation presented specific evidence that I’m doing long-term damage to my health. Also experimentation has never had a significant negative impact on my ambitions and goals in life. However, a combination of shocking symptoms of neurological trauma, post-comedown depression and wasted days taking the drug and getting over the side effects… things have gotten out of hand!
Conclusion
18 months as a teenager, experimenting with pills left no legacy of ill-health. I got bored, moved on, and have had a successful career for 12+ years since then without a second thought for that tiny slice of history.Methylone didn’t seem to be having any negative health side effects. My guess is that I would’ve gotten bored of that too after a short while.
NRG-3 seems to be way more addictive and the side effects – in my untrained opinion – seem to indicate something pretty crappy is happening to your brain.
This is my final word: politicians have created a situation, where adults who wish to experiment with drugs must choose between street drugs (illegal, unknown adulterants, might not even be the drug it’s supposed to be) and a plethora of new drugs that we know nothing about. The ironic (and upsetting) thing is that the demonised illegal drugs are probably safer than the legal ones, given they have such a long history of use & abuse – we know the side effects, how to treat the addictions and deal with the overdoses.
Hi welcome to pv …
There’s really no point in posting trip reports about NRG 3 anymore as every one should be WELL aware that it differs from one batch to another as is random MIX of chemicals (not a chem like you’ve said in your post) so what you wright is totaly irelivent to someone elses experiance.
I guess tho if people are still taking it, then (as GL always states) people are just ignoring the bad news and taking it anyway.
It’s not that people are taking this with the risk of it being adulterated as it’s not even a real drug!
I am not sure if stimulants can cause “early onset parkinsons” – were that the case surely half of my age group would be going down with it by now. They do however cause symptoms what seem like it – shaky hands etc. from personal experience, but these appear to be reversible or stop if you don’t cane it too much.
I used to get stuff like that if I really badly overdid amfetamines – but not these days. be careful about reading medical books and websites on a comedown – it is easy to convince yourself you have everything in the book.
Also stay away from dodgy mixtures like NRG-whatever which contain all sorts of nasty shit including MDPV and 2-DPMP.
If you want stimulants, MPA and Camfetamine are cleaner and less harsh on the body.
Now I build electronic stuff as a hobby – been doing it since I was a litle boy, but of course since then technology has improved loads and components are way smaller than 20-30 years ago. In the 90s I was also doing this for work as well and I was getting worried myself because my hands were getting a bit shaky and I’d find it hard to work accurately (the fact I used to go on 3 day speed binges every weekend and not get much sleep didn’t help).
But last weekend, and the weekend before, I was easily able to solder a load of what are called 0.1″ headers. These are little bits of plastic and metal you use to connect circuit boards to bigger ones.
I showed a pic of one to Raj (who also does this stuff and is probably better at soldering than I am) who agreed it was a fiddly job. I did about 6 boards with these – all worked straight away. No bridges, dry joints or other fuckups. I wasn’t 100% sober either 😉
I don’t say this to boast (TBH I was surprised at myself I did that well) – but to point out that for someone with 20 years of stimulant use there would be no way I’d be able to do that fiddly and precise job if the stuff fucks you up permanently…
@General Lighting 450757 wrote:
I am not sure if stimulants can cause “early onset parkinsons” – were that the case surely half of my age group would be going down with it by now. They do however cause symptoms what seem like it – shaky hands etc. from personal experience, but these appear to be reversible or stop if you don’t cane it too much.
I used to get stuff like that if I really badly overdid amfetamines – but not these days. be careful about reading medical books and websites on a comedown – it is easy to convince yourself you have everything in the book.
Also stay away from dodgy mixtures like NRG-whatever which contain all sorts of nasty shit including MDPV and 2-DPMP.
If you want stimulants, MPA and Camfetamine are cleaner and less harsh on the body.
Now I build electronic stuff as a hobby – been doing it since I was a litle boy, but of course since then technology has improved loads and components are way smaller than 20-30 years ago. In the 90s I was also doing this for work as well and I was getting worried myself because my hands were getting a bit shaky and I’d find it hard to work accurately (the fact I used to go on 3 day speed binges every weekend and not get much sleep didn’t help).
But last weekend, and the weekend before, I was easily able to solder a load of what are called 0.1″ headers. These are little bits of plastic and metal you use to connect circuit boards to bigger ones.
I showed a pic of one to Raj (who also does this stuff and is probably better at soldering than I am) who agreed it was a fiddly job. I did about 6 boards with these – all worked straight away. No bridges, dry joints or other fuckups. I wasn’t 100% sober either 😉
I don’t say this to boast (TBH I was surprised at myself I did that well) – but to point out that for someone with 20 years of stimulant use there would be no way I’d be able to do that fiddly and precise job if the stuff fucks you up permanently…
Yea they definatly seem to give you some similar symptoms as i learnt with my mdpv experience, some seriously shaky hands
I ordered from 2 different suppliers and received the same substance (verified by getting the same effects at the same dosages). There are lots of disreputable suppliers who are not selling what they purport to be selling – for example there’s lots of mis-selling of MDAI – but that doesn’t mean you can dismiss experience reports. Even branded drugs are counterfeited.
The wider question of “what is NRG-3” is something that I’ve spent a couple of days trying to answer. I found a couple of research papers had been written, where the authors had used mass spectroscopes to identify the compounds found:
Analysis of NRG []legal highs’ in the UK: identification and formation of novel cathinones – Brandt – 2010 – Drug Testing and Analysis – Wiley Online Libraryhttp://eprints.lincoln.ac.uk/3956/2/Analysis_of__Legal_Highs_-_Accepted_Version.pdf
So, it could be a blend of BZP and 3-TFMPP, or it might be 4-methyl-α-pyrrolidinopropiophenone. Given BZPs reputation for terrible side effects, I suspect the former rather than the latter.
In response to General Lighting, I’m slightly reassured by your comments, but I don’t want to confuse the side-effects of an extended comedown with long-term health implications: I know that the shaking/jerking and tics wear off after a few days. The question is whether long-term abuse could do permanent and irreversible damage. The fact that ampfets have proven ‘safe’ (in that regard) just emphasises my point – the drug we know is ok long-term is illegal, and the one we don’t even know what it’s supposed to be (NRG-3) is legal.
I know what you mean about getting all paranoid on a comedown, and too much time reading medical websites will convince even the non-hypochondriac that they’re close to the grave… I still think my concerns are legit though. Leva-dopa (L-Dopa) has a limited lifespan for patients before their brain is completely dopamined-out and they’re virtually paralysed. If this drug works in the same way, don’t you think it could be effing up the dopaminergic system in the same way?
@oneboywonder 450915 wrote:
I ordered from 2 different suppliers and received the same substance (verified by getting the same effects at the same dosages).
There are “rings” of websites seeling online drugs, you may have purchased from 2 websites run by the same people.
I may have done, but I didn’t. Nobody is going to spend thousands of extra pounds to incorporate multiple entities at Companies House, have different bank accounts, operate at opposing ends of the country, and then sell RCs that are legitimately what they claim to be in the first place!
The only mystery here is what – definitively – is this NRG-3 stuff the reputable dealers are selling? The fact that disreputable dealers are selling a load of other crap (getting rid of old stock, for example) under these mysterious pseudonyms is a separate issue that applies equally to any generic looking powder sold by name alone.
Right… I’m going hunting for experience reports that correlate with my own!
Anyone taking “branded RC” drugs should feel ashamed!!!
@oneboywonder 450927 wrote:
I may have done, but I didn’t. Nobody is going to spend thousands of extra pounds to incorporate multiple entities at Companies House,
That’s assuming they have even registered their sites!
@oneboywonder 450927 wrote:
have different bank accounts
It’s really not hard to set up multiple online banking accounts.
@oneboywonder 450927 wrote:
operate at opposing ends of the country
This is the only thing that has any weight saing that they are from diferant people, alltho I’d be interested as to how you know this.
@oneboywonder 450927 wrote:
then sell RCs that are legitimately what they claim to be in the first place!
So what do they claim NRG-3 is?
Besides all that, it’s most likely that you got similer drugs sent under the guise of NRG-3 …
@oneboywonder 450927 wrote:
The only mystery here is what – definitively – is this NRG-3 stuff the reputable dealers are selling? The fact that disreputable dealers are selling a load of other crap (getting rid of old stock, for example) under these mysterious pseudonyms is a separate issue that applies equally to any generic looking powder sold by name alone.
There is no definitive chem that is NRG-3 almost all tests done on the stuff come back as it being a random mixture of stuff, the rest are a selection of other chems on there own, but not one specific chem.
NRG-1 was suposed to be Naphyrone but every NRG product after has just been mixtures of legal and possably illigal RC chems.
“The drug has been marketed under the name NRG-1, although only a minority of samples of substances sold under this name have been found to actually contain naphyrone,[6][7] and even samples that proved to contain genuine β-naphyrone were in some cases also found to contain the 1-naphthyl isomer α-naphyrone in varying proportions, further confusing the reported effects profile”
Naphyrone – Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Even most of the NRG-1 was a mixture of random chems. What has happened is whoever invented the name “NRG-1” for Naphyrone has had the idea taken off them by dealers who don’t care about people and used it as a selling tactic for what ever RC’s they have lying about.
Just because some NRG-3 gives a good buzz, DOES NOT mean it’s not a random chem/mix of random chems. If it was, then the tests done on chems form these “reputable” dealers like you say wouldn’t come back as “insert random drug here” like EVERY test done on the stuff has come back as.
Some were putting Mephedrone in NRG products at one point not long after it was made illigal … and guess what … loads of people liked it … now mephe is worth more on the illigal market I’m pretty sure the fequency of it being found as one of the components to NRG-insert random number here, has dramaticaly decreased replaced by other not so valueble chems.
NRG is now a brand name used by many diferant people to sell anything … you’ve just admited to buying it and taking it with out knowing what it is, MANY MANY people do the same thing. So it’s working as a selling tactic. It’s a famous name amoungs drug users … most people have heard of it. You might not of bought it if you knew the exact chems that were in the specific batch you got, you may never of even heard of them b4. NRG is a “friendly” name that people without chemical knowlage will be much more likely to buy then mpf-ttp-hypermethydoobary-5. What ever doesn’t sell goes into NRG123456789.
Now I’m not saing there aren’t certain dealers who put the same thing in it every time, and this might even make you feel good, rather then horrible for days on end like some batches have been reported to do, but unless you test that SPECIFIC batch you’ll not have the faintest idea what’s in it. Looking online will not help either as you’ll just find info on tests over all, you’d be very very lucky to find test results from the exact place you bought it from … but you’ll definatly not be able to find it for the batch you got.
I know any drug you buy has the potential to be cut with nasty stuff/a mixture of stuff that’s not what it’s suposed to be. The point is that NRG 23456789 etc. IS suposed to be a mix of random stuff, that’s what it definitivley is!
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