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  • BBC News – Mental health ‘bible’ update due

    It’s been 9 years, but the latest batch of “abnormal” behaviours that it’s OK to stigmatise and discriminate over are due out tomorrow.

    I doubt they have entries for “Banksterist”, “Gun nut” or “Mainstreamer Syndrome” but I could be proved wrong, as there really is no scientific oversight on psychiatrists or their kooky belief systems.

    yeh this all seems pretty west :/

    While I agree in principle with what you are saying Pat. I don’t think at any point they describe these conditions as “abnormal behaviour” and this guide is not being produced to stigmatize people with mental health issues.

    The point is that narrowing down the specifics of various mental health issues is important for making an accurate diagnosis and therefore being able to select an appropriate form of treatment or support.

    It’s actually about giving the best possible care to people with problems.

    I think it is easy to take this sort of thing too far, I mean to be able to accurately identify a lot of these modern day mental illnesses you need a standardized norm to compare them against and that simply doesn’t exist. At the end of the day everybody is slightly unique in their perception of the world. Just because you react differently to a situation from 90% of the population does that make you somehow mentally ill? I can’t help but see this as another form of out of control political correctness. Let’s give everything that isn’t an ‘expected/normal’ behaviour a title.

    While yes with technology driving us constantly in new directions and changing lifestyles updating such literature is important as new conditions are going to develop from time to time we need to leave some things be. To me it seems like the publishers/producers of such books have a touch of the OCD, everything must be named and organised in a regimental fashion so we can easily keep tabs on it. There also seems to be an element of ‘if we expand the list of behaviours that we don’t want to see perhaps some people will behave differently’, a conformity and control aspect.

    Hmm, first thing on a Sunday morning and I’m rambling, not even certain if what I’ve typed makes sense. I rarely wake up feeling alert regardless of how little or much sleep I’ve had, it simply takes me a couple of hours to adjust fully to the conscious world. I wonder what condition must be causing me to be so groggy after I’ve been asleep?

    @Chrispydelic 546578 wrote:

    It’s actually about giving the best possible care to people with problems.

    If people actually cared, then just possibly a lot of conditions wouldn’t happen in the first place?

    Every individual mind is different. Every individual life experience is unique.

    These fakes need their quackery to give them power. And I despise them for their paintroller efforts.

    “Effective treatment” to these fuckers means zombification. “Looks, he’s happy, because he’s not killing himself.”

    It’s a book of bullshit and you can quote me on that.

    @The Psyentist 546581 wrote:

    I wonder what condition must be causing me to be so groggy after I’ve been asleep?

    AIDS.

    @Pat McDonald 546605 wrote:

    If people actually cared, then just possibly a lot of conditions wouldn’t happen in the first place?

    Every individual mind is different. Every individual life experience is unique.

    These fakes need their quackery to give them power. And I despise them for their paintroller efforts.

    “Effective treatment” to these fuckers means zombification. “Looks, he’s happy, because he’s not killing himself.”

    It’s a book of bullshit and you can quote me on that.

    Every individual mind IS different, but we can all face similar problems (mostly because we are forced to behave the way that society tells us, contrary to 145 thousand or so years of human evolution which can create conflicts in our subconscious which in turn can cause us problems).

    Being able to identify potentially harmful patterns of thought or being able to release emotions that are seated way down deep in our subconscious can help with many of these problems.

    It seems you have been burned (or you know of someone who has been failed by some charlatan therapist) but good therapists don’t just throw drugs at a patient, they use therapeutic techniques to get to the heart of the problem and make things better. There are many successful techniques that can be very helpful to a great many people. Like CBT, NLP, EFT, psychotherapy and hypnotherapy. These can be successful in curing many ailments including stress and emotional problems, phobias (including social phobia), addictions, self harming and a great many other conditions that can limit people’s lives in a profound way.

    It’s not about being pigeon holed into being a certain type of nutter, it’s about making a quick and accurate diagnosis so that the appropriate treatment can be administered. Long gone are the days of Electro Convulsive therapy and leeches.

    @Chrispydelic 546625 wrote:

    it’s about making a quick and accurate diagnosis so that the appropriate treatment can be administered. Long gone are the days of Electro Convulsive therapy and leeches.

    ECT is still carried out in the UK. So you can take that “we know what we’re doing” attitude and shove it, Mr.

    Electroconvulsive Therapy (ECT)

    I have met plenty of people who claim “cures” who are patently fucked up, they’re just drugged up so they don’t appreciate the fact that they are fucked up.

    “Chemical cures” are just profit margins for pharma companies. It’s not about curing people, it’s about making sure corporate life continues at the expense of real people.

    You can sign up to that if you want, I say it’s a lie. A dirty, dirty lie.

    @Pat McDonald 546648 wrote:

    “Chemical cures” are just profit margins for pharma companies. It’s not about curing people, it’s about making sure corporate life continues at the expense of real people.

    You can sign up to that if you want, I say it’s a lie. A dirty, dirty lie.

    +1

    @Chrispydelic 546578 wrote:

    It’s actually about giving the best possible care to people with problems.

    am i missing something?… when did you become a rather chrispy arbiter of this issue? x

    i dont know much about this but it seems that in the u.s they have many ‘illnesses’ that require many treatments that means more $ for pharms. healthcare is business and ill people = profit = increased gdp. possibly the 2 biggest boost to gdp in u.s are war and ill people? undiagnosed temper tantrums = 0 profit

    maybe chrispy, you are looking at this topic through rose tinted glasses due to a love of your profession?

    this thread reminded me of this:

    Fair-s fair know-hope – I could be looking at this through shit stained spectacles due to having friends fucked over by the Psychiatric Care System.

    While tragic, I must admit these are not regular and normal outcomes of psychiatric care.

    @Pat McDonald 546656 wrote:

    Fair-s fair know-hope – I could be looking at this through shit stained spectacles

    i was agreeing with you pat. that comment was for chrispy

    My mum had depression because her parents both died within about 8 months of each other. She took some SSRIs for a while, during which she saw a psychologist to do CBT. Within about a year or so she was completely off the meds and living a normal healthy life.

    But no, of course. All people in the medical profession are demon shills for big pharma. It’s a massive conspiracy meant to keep us down!

    ^ I was paid $5 to make that post by GlaxoSmithKline.

    so you don’t think they over medicate ? 1 example, 1 outcome, case closed? ofc they can also treat ‘real’ mental illness as well. they both make $.

    what country was this in?

    even chelleywonder was wacked out on ritilin and adderall… and what a happy bunny she became :crazy:

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