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I understand that some users/viewers of this are affected my sexual assault So I try to be considerate of their feelings.
Its of course hard to draw a line from whats offensive and whats inoffensive.
I’ve been on forums such as 4chan, squatjuice and some sub-reddits where any joke goes, they’re not nice places.
It really depends on the context and this is a public forum. I will say some really depraved things around my friends but we know each other for a while and know we are not being serious and all. But if someone overheard us they might think we are deranged.
When you go to a comedy night you go in with the expectation that a lot of the jokes are probably going to be offensive so most people take it in stride. However on a public forum on the Internet, when things are written in text it can come off as offensive and rude. I wouldn’t make a rape joke to a rape victim or a cancer joke to someone who had or whose family member had cancer. It really is context sensitive.
And of course offence can be given. Saying offence can only be taken is like saying a punch to the face is only offensive if the person takes it that way. Communication is always both between the speaker and the listener. If I go up to an east asian person and start calling him slurs and saying generally nasty things of course he is going to be offended. Lots of people say things with intent to rile people up. That is what trolling is.
But either way I try to be mindful that even though this is the Internet, actions always have consequences and there’s still a person on the other end of the screen.
A lot of people of both genders have stopped using this site over the years and many other EDM sites too because they are mindful – not particularly because they themselves are offended by what they see here (there far are worse jokes and some genuine and heart felt expressions of hatred toward others on other EDM sites and not even the ones who deliberately try to be controversial). They leave simply because they have “grown up” and are dealing with things like University or applying for their first proper jobs and stuff like lifestyle monitoring/screening of internet usage really is a reality. its just the girls disappear quicker because they tend to mature quicker, also in many cases people become parents and growing kids take up time and energy.
Also on first glance this site does look a bit druggy/chavvy to be fair, so does the EDM scene as a whole, and our sites (former) focus on obtaining drugs and attending unlicensed music events held on other peoples property without their consent (which is actually a far more of a issue in rural communities than some rude jokes) really only appeals to a small minority of young people today, mostly affluent middle class youths in SE England and thats not everyone in our country or Europe.
Todays bland hipster culture (though I do mock people for it a bit myself) is partly my generations fault as we overdid things with drugs in the 90s and have managed to scare young people from taking too many risks with their lives through real life negative experiences they have seen their parents generations go through, not because the authorities have done this. Young people today are still smart and ambitious and don’t want to fuck their lives up. The only reason I get away with being on here myself is that I tell folk in real life who might ask what exactly I do on here I am a “informal drugs outreach worker” who was a raver back in the day and therefore has some knowledge of harm reduction techniques and personal safety which I try and pass on to a new generation (which is perfectly true to be fair).
If I were merely some 40 something raver still trying to behave like a 20 year old telling rude jokes and bragging about drugs, sex and borderline anti social behaviour and “hanging around with youths” (which would get me referred to adult safeguarding were I to do it in a real life environment such as the community radio station) wider society would have every right to judge me as a a bit of a sad case and get the authorities to check I am not a genuine risk to others mental health and stability (or my own), as friends of my own age group tell me there are plenty of such sad cases around on the estates of urban Ipswich (and I dare say many other areas too..)
that’s an American up there…. ya wanna be that THICK? fuck that!!
just think before ye slaver
@General Lighting 544335 wrote:
If I were merely some 40 something raver still trying to behave like a 20 year old telling rude jokes and bragging about drugs, sex and borderline anti social behaviour and “hanging around with youths” (which would get me referred to adult safeguarding were I to do it in a real life environment such as the community radio station) wider society would have every right to judge me as a a bit of a sad case and get the authorities to check I am not a genuine risk to others mental health and stability (or my own), as friends of my own age group tell me there are plenty of such sad cases around on the estates of urban Ipswich (and I dare say many other areas too..)
Oh. Right. So “The Authorities” have “The right” to check “not a genuine risk to others mental health”.
Not an actual clear and present danger, but just “a risk”. Like, ANY kind of risk is clearly unwelcome and must be combatted. Like, “sane” people never take risks, never fly, never drive, never fuck, just spend their lives wearing rubber suits and oversize hats in case they see anything scary.
What kind of commie-party-card-bearing faggot are you for fucks sake? The sort that waves a white flag out of habit?
@Pat McDonald 544508 wrote:
Oh. Right. So “The Authorities” have “The right” to check “not a genuine risk to others mental health”.
Not an actual clear and present danger, but just “a risk”. Like, ANY kind of risk is clearly unwelcome and must be combatted. Like, “sane” people never take risks, never fly, never drive, never fuck, just spend their lives wearing rubber suits and oversize hats in case they see anything scary.
What kind of commie-party-card-bearing faggot are you for fucks sake? The sort that waves a white flag out of habit?
no, someone who is prepared to exist in a constructive, consensus based society where citizens, and officials who are themselves of course citizens work together for the common good.
I live in one today, in England in 2013, in spite of all the paranoia some might have over the mere concept of Government (as opposed to genuinely bad régimes), and “authority” won’t disappear however much they wish it away. It might not fit in with idealist anarchist fantasies, nor is perfect, but it works, (as in other North European countries). I don’t disagree that things may be far worse elsewhere especially big cities but every region has its differences.
Coming to a head in 2006, this community didn’t have to just deal with just 5 sex workers being murdered or going missing but other young people as well, all interlinked with the nightlife/drugs/sex culture. The aftermath of the Police investigation, as well catching the killer of the sex workers quickly, unearthed other issues about younger people who weren’t kids / young teens but still less mature being encouraged into genuinely dangerous situations and lifestyles by unrepentant criminals in their 30s and 40s, I don’t mean minor stuff either like small time drugs use or small groups dancing in a forest and clearing up after they were finished. A lot of older people too genuinely wanted help to get their lives back on track and away from self destructive behaviour. Also party drug use developing into problematic use was rife in town as it would be in a coastal town. (today it is much less so, due to the good work of a wider community).
My own friends have suffered and some have lost their lives just over the last few years.
Even amongst supposedly “normal, sane” people in my town they seem unable to participate in night time events without attacking one another (often through alcohol), hence making “risk management” essential, and problematic use of alcohol and drugs here is now monitored by the NHS Mental Health teams and Social Services as well as the Police, as they believe (in common with practices in Holland and mainland Europe) that this is a health problem and a social problem as much as a criminal justice problem.
That is something harm reduction advocates have been campaigning for for years, and now they are succeeding albeit often underresourced and lacking the resources to educate a wide age group as needed. So whether someone is a raver, a cop, a journalist, a DJ or radio presenter, a NHS worker, a politician or drugs rehab worker to me is irrelevant, if they believe in harm reduction but understand that people will still want to enjoy themselves, I am happy to work with them.
I know they will all have their own private agendas, but there is some common ground. I no longer live a “double life”, I am much the same person in my day job and in real life in Ipswich town as I am on here.
“Authority figures” in my town are not faceless bureaucrats nor folk to be scared or of fearful of, but genuine people like you and me, some slightly older and with families, some the same age, who genuinely want to make my town a safer but fun place. They manage it very well, without locking off the whole area or restricting people as hard as the paranoid might think. OK folk can no longer take the piss in public shared spaces with unlicensed music events, nor behave badly in town, but nor are they oppressed. Looking after everyone in a large, multicultural port town of 120 000+ inhabitants isn’t something that well meaning anarchists can as yet do – the ones I do know of are currently too busy occupied with keeping a roof over their heads for their small community and surviving (which they are also doing very well at via the housing co-op).
But within the entire community which includes everyone from youths and hedonists to authorities, I now live in a town which though not perfect is not as unsafe as big city areas, and still has a thriving alternative scene and arts culture, even if it doesn’t seem as “cool” as other areas. I don’t see that as waving a white flag at all but proudly flying a flag for Ipswich, Suffolk, England and Europe. (As an aside, Ipswich does have a flag which is interesting in its own right as a heraldic depiction of our maritime and industrial heritage..)
@General Lighting 544516 wrote:
“Authority figures” in my town are not faceless bureaucrats nor folk to be scared or of fearful of, but genuine people like you and me, some slightly older and with families, some the same age, who genuinely want to make my town a safer but fun place.
Uh huh. That is just SO MUCH BULLSHTI. How many liberties and rights removed already since, say, 1985? Sure, people are so much “safer” now than they were then. They may not have right to trial by jury, free adult education, or the right to have beats “of a reptitive nature” but people certainly are so much happier.
Except they are not.
And if you don’t like Daily Mail stats because you don’t like a political slant, try the Office of National Statistics.
TRUST these sort of shitheads who make soothing noises and actually remove civil liberty? Fuck that. I trust them to do what they’ve always done – push other people’s faces into the dirt and stomp as hard as they can.
@Pat McDonald 544828 wrote:
Uh huh. That is just SO MUCH BULLSHTI. How many liberties and rights removed already since, say, 1985? Sure, people are so much “safer” now than they were then. They may not have right to trial by jury, free adult education, or the right to have beats “of a reptitive nature”.
Those can’t exactly be blamed on the local / district Councils and last time I checked people are still at liberty to vote in elections.
I do agree austerity nor the current system isn’t doing anyone a great deal of good, but do you actually have any workable alternatives?
I’m not a rightwinger or capitalist fan by any means but I’ve seen in my lifetime my ancestors country of Malaysia remove a lot of authoritarian laws following economic growth (in spite of the recession), and had plenty of real life experiences that do not make me think there is completely some cabal of psychopaths out to oppress everyone. Do you have any workable alternative systems that could for instance look after everyone in a port town of 120 000 (and keep a watch over the North Sea as well?)
People flock to Ipswich and Mid Suffolk in droves from London (even if they still work there), so things can’t be too bad….
@General Lighting 544830 wrote:
Those can’t exactly be blamed on the local / district Councils and last time I checked people are still at liberty to vote in elections.
Yes, people have the right (actually the implied obligation) to vote, but as most voters vote by party, rather than the person who will “represent” them, then it is pointless to do so if your choice is different to the local majority choice.
If the “representative” decides not to represent the electorate who voted for them, their is absolutely nothing the electorate can do to remove them from “power”.
Now, look, if you want to go along with this idea that “voting” actually changes anything, fine. Go for it. Be a good voter, put your X on a piece of paper, and bask certain in the knowledge that “your representative” is actually going to help you.
Just count me out, I’m a bit old for fairy tales.
@Pat McDonald 544843 wrote:
Yes, people have the right (actually the implied obligation) to vote, but as most voters vote by party, rather than the person who will “represent” them, then it is pointless to do so if your choice is different to the local majority choice.
If the “representative” decides not to represent the electorate who voted for them, their is absolutely nothing the electorate can do to remove them from “power”.
Now, look, if you want to go along with this idea that “voting” actually changes anything, fine. Go for it. Be a good voter, put your X on a piece of paper, and bask certain in the knowledge that “your representative” is actually going to help you.
Just count me out, I’m a bit old for fairy tales.
But by not voting at all, there is a certainty that nothing will change. At least if you vote there is a chance.
Why don’t you vote for a party that aims to reform the voting system and change it to something like the open party list system where you can vote for a party and a candidate?
First past the post is a pretty shitty voting system but I doubt it will change.
@Pat McDonald 544843 wrote:
Yes, people have the right (actually the implied obligation) to vote, but as most voters vote by party, rather than the person who will “represent” them, then it is pointless to do so if your choice is different to the local majority choice.
If the “representative” decides not to represent the electorate who voted for them, their is absolutely nothing the electorate can do to remove them from “power”.
Now, look, if you want to go along with this idea that “voting” actually changes anything, fine. Go for it. Be a good voter, put your X on a piece of paper, and bask certain in the knowledge that “your representative” is actually going to help you.
Just count me out, I’m a bit old for fairy tales.
Right. So clearly everyone in any position of power is completely selfish and wants to harm people.
Honestly you should be thankful you were born in the era and location you were. You don’t have to go too far back in the UK’s history for you to have been born under much worse conditions with fewer freedoms thanks to the lack of the welfare system that is now in place. It’s easy to forget that while things today are by no means perfect, and there is a lot to complain about, it could be much worse.
If you really want change, you have to make an effort. Not just when you vote but also getting involved in community action, lobbying, etc.
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