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  • USE wrote:
    you’re a mentalist!

    ahhhhh!

    everyone run away! everyone run away! everyone run away! everyone run away! everyone run away! everyone run away! everyone run away! everyone run away! everyone run away! everyone run away!

    ps: contraceptives are great – keep on shaggin…..

    If contraceptives are great;

    Why is there an Epidemic of sexually transmitted diseases?
    Why are there Hundreds of thousands of unwanted pregnancy?
    Why are there Hundreds of thousands of abortion?

    contraceptives failure.

    and the result is suffering for all involved.

    so what if i am posting on various forums?
    do you use your real name on the web “General Lighting”?

    lynn wrote:
    If contraceptives are great;

    Why is there an Epidemic of sexually transmitted diseases?
    Why are there Hundreds of thousands of unwanted pregnancy?
    Why are there Hundreds of thousands of abortion?

    contraceptives failure.

    and the result is suffering for all involved.

    Because not everyone uses them….

    lynn wrote:
    If contraceptives are great;

    Why is there an Epidemic of sexually transmitted diseases?
    Why are there Hundreds of thousands of unwanted pregnancy?
    Why are there Hundreds of thousands of abortion?

    contraceptives failure

    or abstinence’s failure

    depends on what you’re preaching really, doesn’t it?

    or you could say that both have a place, and so does abortion, seeing as how we don’t live in a perfect world.

    lynn wrote:
    do you use your real name on the web “General Lighting”?

    not really my place to say anything, but GL always uses the same moniker here, and will reveal much about his ‘identity’ by his open approach to discussion

    what we’re wondering is why you’re posting on this forum? it’s definately a good place to discuss wider topics than free party / rave scene, but who are you? do you have anything to do with the people here? why the bland regurgitation of propaganda? this is a discussion forum :rolleyes:

    my real name is Alex – I have mentioned it a number of times on here and other boards. people tend to use screen names as its easy to end up with confusion due to someone having the same first name. There are at least two other people called Alex on here; one of whom is female…

    On this note even if you do post to a lot of different boards its normally common to use the same name on them.. and to keep the same gender! Otherwise people will suspect your motives.

    TBH I am not sure if this is the most appropriate messageboard for you to be on, as it is predominantly frequented by young people with liberal views on sex, drugs and other matters. You can preach as much as you want here but you are very unlikely to change many peoples views. It is also clearly stated here this is a board for open minded people, in other words those who respect others who may have different opinions.

    OTOH I don’t really think you have come here just to start trouble or even out of malice ; you may be motivated by your own religious views, in the same way that many people here are highly motivated to fight for their freedom to have such events as raves despite resistance from wider society or the Police.

    but you have not answered the question on why you have come here, or what is motivating you to make these posts. Most of our other users do so in some way or another, usually because they like a certain form of music, organise events or are concerned at authorities clamping down on these events.

    Is it your own personal religious motivation, or are you being encouraged to do so by an organised political campaign group?

    Why did you single out Tony Blair for “supporting abortions” (in fact he comes from a religious family) and post in our politics section, when lots of other European leaders permit abortion in their countries, and this board is not just confined to people in the UK.

    why did you not just say you thought abortion was a bad thing in the first place? This is a question of peoples individual personal responsibility and choices, not party politics. Girls aren’t just going to have a late term abortion because “tony blair says so”….

    its also a single issue when there are a lot of other issues affecting the world. How do you feel about the current war being fought over natural resources, or the destruction of the environment? These are also issues which affect people’s lives..

    We already have a forum for info on dating, relationships and sexuality. How come you didn’t use this bit?

    I actually saw a flyer on these Pro-Life guys and as far as I could see they didn’t seem to have an argument. The flyer basically consisted of a handful of facts surrounding abortion and Sexual Education that this organizasation simply were not happy about.

    To be honest I don’t think Pro-life is very good heading for them because all they seem go on about is death and they don’t seem to be very PRO-Active in their approach.

    Just my opinion.

    elretardo87 wrote:
    Whats happened to the previously calm ad respectful Use of before, but i must say I have to agree. The idea of no sex before marriage is about as common as jacobites, nowadays.

    i hate being tricked, and i feel that the post is well manipulative. plus its nice to let off some steam once in a while. cant be a picture of serenity all the time :good_evil 😉

    top point from nikki d, if they were pro- life they would realise every life needs certain things to live a full life, and some kids are conceived where and when there is no hope of those needs being fulfilled. also, pro life suggests all life, not just human, and the less humans about, the better for all other life.

    i think anti-abotionists must have quite a naiive veiw of the world if they think that abotion is one of the worst things going on. imo, there are better causes to fight. just my opinion, tho.

    always good to hear new points of veiw, even if they are mental….

    Hello.

    Interesting thread.

    When I was younger, I was taught by nuns at a catholic school. We were very young, so the subject of abortion didnt come up. We WERE told never to have sex, though.

    Though my childhood was by no means strict, it was a relatively ‘religious’ upbringing and my Parents’ were/are avidly pro-life. This being the case, in my early teens I adopted my parents’ views, as many kids do (I was only a closet rebel at this stage).

    Now much as I love and celebrate life in all its forms, it is not AND NEVER WILL BE my decision whether someone does or does not have an abortion. Whether I think they should or not is completely irrelevant, as it is not me who is pregnant.

    I am Pro-Choice – not just for abortion, but for everything. If someone voted for UKIP, I will not agree with them, and will undoubtedly argue against their choice, but it is THEIR choice, not mine.

    Pro-Choice isn’t pro-abortion, it’s simply being mature and sensible enough to let those involved make up their own minds. Everyone’s situation is comletely and infinitely different, we can never have a blanket rule which includes everyone as it simply wouldn’t be possible, and even if it was, it certainly wouldn’t be fair.

    That’s what I reckon, anyway.

    peace

    monkey monkey wrote:
    Hello.

    Interesting thread.

    When I was younger, I was taught by nuns at a catholic school. We were very young, so the subject of abortion didnt come up. We WERE told never to have sex, though.

    same happened to me, as I was reaching my “formative” years (ages 9-11 where puberty may start)

    the nuns separated the genders – literally took them to different ends of the school – the boys were warned (rather vaguely) about various forms of SIN they must NEVER commit with the girls (the nun was becoming quite apoplectic at just mentioning some of these words, I thought she would keel over at any point but nuns are virtualy indestructible [1])

    I have no idea whatsoever what the girls were told..

    [1] the same nun who taught me in the 1980s [and looked elderly then was still there in 1994]….

    OTOH this makes me think there is something in this religious malarkey after all. If I were Jesus, I wouldn’t want too many up there in the afterlife at any one time, or you’d never have any fun… I could just imagine the following..So you’d want nuns to last as long as possible.

    “Jesus, just you tell Elvis, John and Jimi to pipe doyn with those guitars, or I’ll tell your Da about all the noise you’ve been making up here… you’ll get sent doyn to Earth again for the Second Coming, and you remember just what happened to you last time. Now just go and tell them to shut off that infernal racket. The angels can’t hear their harps over it, and even Satan has been on the phone complaining of the din!”

    As this site is for discussion, not a platform for single issue campaigners, (particularly those who appear not to accept dissenting views) this thread is now being moved to the “Dating, relationships and sexuality” forum – with its potentially inaccurate title edited.

    I still have found no evidence whatsoever Tony Blair supports anything other than the right to choose, and he is not a medical doctor who would make a decision on what medical treatment to use in an individuals case.

    AFAIK for all his faults, he doesn’t go around getting anyone else pregnant apart from his own (Catholic) wife to whom he has been happily married for some years (which is more than can be said for many of the other politicians :D)


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      That’s just horrible to read :'(

      @Cilla Black 12303 wrote:

      Tony Blair has always voted for late-term abortions, and
      Tony Blair supports partial-birth abortion.

      Partial-birth abortion is a horrifying procedure wherein an abortionist incompletely delivers a baby, leaving its head within the mother. He then penetrates the base of a late-term baby’s skull so that he can suction out its brain (thereby collapsing its little head) prior to full delivery. Evidence confirms that these unborn children experience profound pain during these procedures.

      a surgical nurse who observed first-hand this gruesome procedure at abortion clinic, recounted the immense revulsion she experienced while participating in a partial-birth abortion:
      “The baby’s little fingers were clasping and unclasping and his feet were kicking. Then, the doctor stuck the scissors through the back of his head and the baby’s arms jerked out in a flinch, in a startled reaction — like a baby does when he thinks that he might fall.”

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