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Hey 🙂
AWFUL location. Bait as heck. As soon as the line updated and we heard it was where it was we were like, ‘NOT the one!’ Haha! We went anyway, to see what was happening. So many police and there was already a chopper at 01:30. A few people spoiling for a fight but most were just standing around complaining as people were being led out of the warehouse still attached to their balloons!
We tried for about an hour to get another line but no joy. Now our driver’s gone off to get drunk.
FAIL. Police 1 – Party heads 0
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Was a massive flop all round. Choice of location was not the brightest idea after last weekend, local rig tried to set up a relocation and were shut down within minutes of getting to the site. They definitely were not having it this weekend. Had a long break from partying and got back on it recently but the way things have been going don’t think it’s worth the effort atm! Shame as was set to see lots of old friends but only ended up catching a few in failed missions driving around
@spangle 456745 wrote:
Shame as was set to see lots of old friends but only ended up catching a few in failed missions driving around
🙁 Aww, bless you, that sucks. I’m still reeling from the choice of location, haha! I mean, not only was it obvious we’d have to be desperately low key after last weekend, but also, it’s in a really scummy, troubled area anyway – all sorts of people we wouldn’t want there who have no interest in partying would literally be able to hear the rave and walk down to fuck things up.
Don’t give up. I’ve got a good feeling about next weekend. Let this be a lesson to all organisers, I guess. Indoor is fine but we needs barns in the arse-end of nowhere.
Man, last night sucked so much. All the dogs were getting wound up and the sound was ridiculous. That police helicopter was driving me insane. Apparently a bunch of people relocated to a car park with a canister and started doing balloons. Haha! But we weren’t allowed to walk anywhere around the site to find our friends. The cops were in no mood, threatening arrest just for walking on a pavement.
Did anyone decide to join the convoy to norfolk? Also does anyone know when they took the jennys?
We definitely would have joined if we’d gotten a party line for it. We were up for going pretty much anywhere but we were calling around forever and not getting any joy from anyone. We had a few friends in the car park who got chatting to some guys who were waiting on a Peterborough party line but nothing came of it. Suckage.
They had separated the party from the rig completely by 01:30 when we showed up – no music at all and ravers were walking out.
You know what royally sucks about being so in love with the scene? For me, getting around the police and getting to the rave despite all the odds is the perfect night and adds limitless value to the experience. But that makes it 100 times worse when they do get to shut one down. I sulked so hard last night.
It was quite disappointing because of the good vibe the party was gonna bring, oh well though, hopefully new years should be the banger 😉
most “barns in the middle of nowhere” are round this way TBH but people picked silly bait venues here as well. Also that “disused” barn is often still someones property and livelihood.
I’m originally a Londoner rather than a bumpkin and only moved to Suffolk due to a job offer but I’ve met a lot of farmers and rural dwellers and seen both sides of the argument, before I moved to EA I worked for the environment ministry (ironically I probably got that job because wanderiing around the Englsh countryside for raves gave me good local knowledge of it ) but its not really fair on a old couple often my parents/grandparents age to have to pay for clearing up loads of peopels discarded balloons and having their crops being classed as “contaminated waste”.
its because of this the cops get harsh, not because they even particularly want to do so.
Round here they know they ultimately end up fighting the kids of the local families and they don’t like it but they have to defend peoples property rights, same as if a bunch of sketchy chavs were eyeing up your car and a bobby was there you’d expect him or her to move them on.
Also since 2005 cops have this new radio system called Airwave and other kit which British Telecom designed for them what makes it easier for them to take control back of areas using less units than before and more protection of offcier safety. Until then ravers actually had better kit than the Police (especially early satnavs and smartphones) and often they’d not stop a rave because their radios weren’t working properly and picked interference including foreign telly soundtracks and it wasn’t safe to go in.
I was actually drinking with two of the clever blokes what did the system test for this and they actually apologised for wrecking the rave scene but said “things were getting out of hand” – a lot of them are old hippies and would try and camp with their families near where raves happened and they’d get kept awake and occasionally get abuse from chavs etc. They weren’t anti rave though and would rather that there were designated areas set aside for these things (which foreign countries sometimes have)
Some places like Thetford Forest / Rendlesham Forest and the Ridgeway in SE England were less bait as we all pay taxes for the area but other bits around there are privately owned and people need to pick their venues carefully – and be prepared to have smaller parties nearer their home areas or in some cases get permission to use areas (there have been 3 or 4 really good, safe, legal events held in otherwise zero tolerance areas which have been no different from a “free” party)..
@General Lighting 456760 wrote:
most “barns in the middle of nowhere” are round this way TBH but people picked silly bait venues here as well. Also that “disused” barn is often still someones property and livelihood.
I’m originally a Londoner rather than a bumpkin and only moved to Suffolk due to a job offer but I’ve met a lot of farmers and rural dwellers and seen both sides of the argument, before I moved to EA I worked for the environment ministry (ironically I probably got that job because wanderiing around the Englsh countryside for raves gave me good local knowledge of it ) but its not really fair on a old couple often my parents/grandparents age to have to pay for clearing up loads of peopels discarded balloons and having their crops being classed as “contaminated waste”.
its because of this the cops get harsh, not because they even particularly want to do so.
Round here they know they ultimately end up fighting the kids of the local families and they don’t like it but they have to defend peoples property rights, same as if a bunch of sketchy chavs were eyeing up your car and a bobby was there you’d expect him or her to move them on.
I can see why the cops would obviously need to come down hard on a party that was reported by the poor farmer whose private land it was destroying. That’s fair enough. (And by harsh, I mean breaking it up rather than letting it play out – I certainly don’t condone anything heavy-handed at any point – the individuals’ safety should come before the farm at the end of the day.) But last Saturday the venue was just a big ol’ warehouse that they well know is already partied out. There have been tonnes of raves there and they haven’t been touched before. I think everyone’s pretty much in agreement that the zero tolerance policy on Saturday was in direct relation to the stabbing at Willington and it’s massively unfortunate because it means we’re going to have to keep our heads well down and risk a few more closures before they find something else to get fired up over. Things like this always ruin things for us for a while. I have never experienced anything like that before, it was ridiculous.
I’ve only ever been to one barn party and that one definitely didn’t negatively impact on anyone’s livelihood. Disused in the extreme and in the middle of nowhere. Big empty warehouses are really the kind of indoor I approve of though, rather than barns, since friends of mine have told me stories (now I think of it) about walking directly through a farmer’s crop in the morning, shitfaced, and the farmer finding them and being infuriated but having no choice but to put them on the back of his vehicle and give them a lift to the road. I don’t like the idea of inconveniencing anyone directly by free partying and I’d have felt really bad if that was me. Warehouses around my neck of the woods are between owners, have been empty for years or are owned by companies who more than have the cash to clean up and should be securing their empty property efficiently anyway. Hell, there’s one by the football ground in Bletchley that’s just partied out completely. God knows who the owners are but they’ve literally just left the floor covered in balloons from the last one and the police never shut them down. There are ways to have free parties that don’t emotionally affect anyone and that’s really the way it should be.
My auntie is a pseudo-open-minded, India-loving, yoghurt-weaving muesli muncher. She did the rave scene in her time but has now ‘grown up’ and once delighted in attempting to enlighten me by explaining how awful it is that tax payers have to foot the bill for clean up which is direct harm to others whether I like it or not. I call foul on this argument. If only from a personal perspective, I paid taxes into this screwed up system for thirteen years, funding illegal wars I didn’t believe in and had no wish to support, a mountain of ridiculous legislation that’s pissed on my freedoms, and don’t even get me started on the war on drugs. So, I see attending a free party as my way to get some of my taxes spent on something I do believe in and do think is just and right and do believe is my entitlement as an English sovereign. To me, it really is the most fun you can have whilst committing an act of lawful rebellion. 🙂
Might be worth mentioning, I haven’t paid taxes for the last year and I haven’t taken anything from the system in benefit either. I’m in a weird in-between place where I know I cannot morally pay into a system so putrid and corrupt anymore but by the same token I’m barely making the ends meet and not sure what my next move is. All I know is that I no longer consent to this bullshit that’s going on at the moment and I want to live my life with as little government interference as possible, since I can’t think of a bunch of people who represent my views and wishes less than the sorry bunch who hang out in the Commons spending hardworking people’s cash on duck houses and porn.
@Kelly-Ann 456747 wrote:
Apparently a bunch of people relocated to a car park with a canister and started doing balloons. Haha!
No idea who that might have been 😉
We were waiting around for quite a while trying to sort out a relocation closer than peterborough/norfolk and for lifts to arrive to get the people who had gone in seized rig van. Got on the way to one closer to home mates tried to set up and they were literally met by the police there. The only way that could have happened is if they had their partyline and were on alert after mk was shut down. In the end lots of driving around to go round a mates then go home! There were other less bait venues that could have been used but I think it was thought that because this warehouse was open and had been used before there wouldn’t be too much of a problem.
You win some and lose some, gonna wait a while I think though or stick to safer bets, local crews etc. for a while
I think the police definitely wanted to make a point. I can appreciate the thought behind doing it in a well known place but I’m still a little miffed that they didn’t simply opt for the middle of a forest or something. To be honest, whether the police show an interest in a party or not, it’s better to have it in a place where only party heads would be prepared to drive.. somewhere with nothing around. If it’s too convenient and easily walkable you risk dickheads showing up causing trouble.
Apparently feds were setting up facebook accounts last weekend to try and get the party line. A friend of mine is frequently messaged by party heads on facebook of a Saturday evening and his eyes are well adjusted to accounts that look dodgy. He had a message requesting a party line but no friend request. You couldn’t see anything on the wall except the picture and the ‘likes’. The picture was of a cartoon dog in shades and the liked content was obvious stuff like the fan pages of a few large crews. He took one look at it and knew it was a fed but told me that others would probably give the party line out straight away without thinking.
@Bon Idée 456918 wrote:
I think the police definitely wanted to make a point. I can appreciate the thought behind doing it in a well known place but I’m still a little miffed that they didn’t simply opt for the middle of a forest or something. To be honest, whether the police show an interest in a party or not, it’s better to have it in a place where only party heads would be prepared to drive.. somewhere with nothing around. If it’s too convenient and easily walkable you risk dickheads showing up causing trouble. [/quote]
round here for many years the coppers openly hinted they preferred people using public owned forests (provided they avoided nature reserve areas) as opposed to warehouses as it was easier to clean up afterwards and safer for everybody. There also used to be loads of empty warehouses in Reading and on the outskirts of London, but those in EA tend to be reused more often as we still have manufacturing industry here!
Private barns are often in use to store vehicles and other agricultural stuff, including nitrate-based fertiliser (best not to fuck with this stuff as it can set fire/blow up)
That said modern smartphones and public access databases can tell you what is public and privately owned and where the nature reserves all are 😉
TBH its not the clear up costs which are the really big burden to society/taxpayers, its the aftermath of incidents like stabbiings, chronic drug addictions, avoidable accidents/injuries and road traffic collisions etc.
These also exist on the conventional night time economy though and its only recently this has started being restricted to the same level as illegal raves, and a lot of these risks could in fact be reduced by tolerating smaller parties in more local areas (so people don’t end up driving 200 miles whilst on drugs/sleep deprived), which is exactly what they do in many parts of Europe. They even make it easy to get there on public transport or bicycles so that the roads aren’t all blocked up…
Events with < 1000 people and certainly < 500 people tend to be relatively trouble free, as most participants are known to one another. The crew I was once part of managed a 1500 person event in Reading at the last one I went too although thats pushing it a bit I reckon.
Quote:Apparently feds were setting up facebook accounts last weekend to try and get the party line. A friend of mine is frequently messaged by party heads on facebook of a Saturday evening and his eyes are well adjusted to accounts that look dodgy. He had a message requesting a party line but no friend request. You couldn’t see anything on the wall except the picture and the ‘likes’. The picture was of a cartoon dog in shades and the liked content was obvious stuff like the fan pages of a few large crews. He took one look at it and knew it was a fed but told me that others would probably give the party line out straight away without thinking.
They (as well as journos and landowners) tried this stunt here too but we tend to spot them quickly. Round this way though they don’t use as much undercover stuff as people think, but just follow the large traffic patterns in odd locations or monitor people who are also wanted for other sorts of crimes.
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