Party Vibe

The BBC do read this site fairly thoroughly. They still can’t be seen to be advertising a site which discusses the unrepentant use of drugs and overruling established private property rights as people would complain to Ofcom etc and the producers would get disciplined.

they didn’t exactly back up Grooverider when he got himself caught for a blim and quickly distanced themsleves pointing out he was a freelancer rather than staff.

a lot of this is because it was almost the only bit left in the South with regular parties.

To be fair the backlash also exists in SE and Western England, just that it was confined more to the local media and less of us on this site now live in those regions (or those who do have not wanted to put up “bad news) so they haven’t been publicised on here as much. The locals in those areas are just as angry and supportive of clampdowns though..

Certainly the Forest of Dean came to prominence for being full of ket heads, and there were serious run ins between police, locals and ravers in Bristol in recent times (including various beef with irate locals, might have been the reason why that fire got set at Wentwood last year)

Assuming the nutters didn’t wreck the party (same as in London)

if the cops wanted to stop the event without adversely affecting policing elsewhere they would just use backup from Yorkshire, Lincs, Notts or any other nearby force. Airwave radios and standardised kit/command and control structures make this simple.

And at least one of these “crap” forces is going to get new senior staff when they replace the dead chief constable of Manchester. Those new senior staff are going to want to make a difference. This is what happened in Norfolk..

there are also more coppers than people realise. Another tactic of theirs is to take away units from crimes where our age group is victim as well as perpetrator, and then make a statement to the media about how the rave diverted resources.

They did this in Reading in 2005 when two young girls got murdered by London gangsters – there was a rave during the investigation yet cops still took units off the scenewatch to help stop the rave.

maybe, but TVP knew what they were doing (to be fair they had already caught the people who were found guilty and eventually got 30+ years sentences) – making use of the publicity machine to turn the heat back on the ravers…

they also knew the girls were themselves into music and had friends who were ravers..

(actually only one girl got murdered, the other survived despite apalling injuries)

none of the normal public complained about the cops priorities either – this was at a time when a popular venue (the Ridgeway) had been constantly overused (two crews got ASBOs for this)

AFAIK only the big parties require a large police presence.

smaller ones <500 people often don't have any coppers, but not every region of france allows these small events. France is a very big country though..

Monsieur 665 has managed to find some good parties still in his country.

you can’t expect the police anywhere in the world to overlook blatant drug taking and dealing, as it is illegal due to UN decree (not just one nations rules).

When I first started going to free parties in 1992 people were a bit more discreet as they always thought CID might be lurking somewhere.

I think that unfortunately its a missed chance. too many people my age or younger (mid 20s upwards) are addicts because of overdoing the partying and their families are still picking up the pieces. nearly all the people I went raving with from the 90s have ended up having addiction issues of some sort or another.

Too much bad shit has happened in some areas for wider society to forgive and forget. The best we can hope for is to preserve the legal events that are still allowed to happen, and maybe to get the occasional event with TENS.

the Yarmouth riot happened shortly afterwards. there have also been many more dodgy incidents outside Norfolk as well associated with raves (vandalism, violence against cops) as far apart as the Midlands and Wales.