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March 29, 2009 at 12:02 pm

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p0ly

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i hate the education system, it does just tell some people ‘you are stupid, you are never gonna get anywhere in life’ and thats just wrong
March 29, 2009 at 12:25 pm

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General Lighting

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TEK Tonic;316275 wrote:

Gonna have to disagree with you there General Sir.

School is important, but I will agree that it has issues!

I did say “only 50%” and encourage Josh to make the most of it and do as well as he can as there are good points, but sadly in many regions particularly London, the SE and the East of England schools do seem to be more geared up as exam factories.

Certainly most of my younger friends from the rave scene have very little complimentary to say about their schooling. However, younger work colleagues what “put up and shut up” (i.e just accepted the rules even if they weren’t academically bright) seem to have endured it better. In many cases it appears whatever goes on in Suffolk’s schools today seems to actually destroy a lot of young people’s desire to learn….
March 29, 2009 at 12:37 pm

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@General Lighting 316298 wrote:

In many cases it appears whatever goes on in Suffolk’s schools today seems to actually destroy a lot of young people’s desire to learn….

Ain’t that the truth!
March 29, 2009 at 12:46 pm

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I always keep my social life and ‘party’ life separate, as I have seen how a few people I know haven’t, and that it really can interfere with their education. One of my friends got heavily into smoking weed (I never did) and now is regularly off school, or excluded or whatever (I’m not saying there is a definite link, but there must be something there..).

I do well at school and have high target grades in all subjects, and I try and get work done before I decide to go out and do whatever. At the end of the day there’s no point going out partying if there’s nothing left at the end to settle down in to.

In regards to substances, again, I would never take them outside of the weekend (or holidays :wink:). And again, I would take a break of a few weeks before I did anything again, to make sure that my body had the chance to (say I’d taken MDMA) replenish my serotonin, and that I would be minimalising the harm that it had caused. To be fair, a lot of my friends are quite responsible in that matter, but a few wouldn’t always see the line between having a good time and fucking up their education/lives (I’m not saying they’re interchangable, but education does have a huge baring on people’s lives).

Sorry, I am rambling.
March 29, 2009 at 12:54 pm

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General Lighting;316298 wrote:

I did say “only 50%” and encourage Josh to make the most of it and do as well as he can as there are good points, but sadly in many regions particularly London, the SE and the East of England schools do seem to be more geared up as exam factories.

Certainly most of my younger friends from the rave scene have very little complimentary to say about their schooling. However, younger work colleagues what “put up and shut up” (i.e just accepted the rules even if they weren’t academically bright) seem to have endured it better. In many cases it appears whatever goes on in Suffolk’s schools today seems to actually destroy a lot of young people’s desire to learn….

how the fuck are you suposed to learn if your bored out of you mind? … you not gonna be thinking about what the teacher is making you copy off the board .. you just gonna be thinking about hometime or lunch break …. some teachers are great .. i had a few amazing teachers .. but the majority didn’t know how to teach them selfs to tie there own shoelaces … alot of teachers are more of just an autoraty figure that you not suposed to fuck with … they should be your friends … who you gonna listen to more? … some one you like? .. or some one you dont?
March 29, 2009 at 1:00 pm

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DaftFader;316308 wrote:

how the fuck are you suposed to learn if your bored out of you mind? … you not gonna be thinking about what the teacher is making you copy off the board .. you just gonna be thinking about hometime or lunch break …. some teachers are great .. i had a few amazing teachers .. but the majority didn’t know how to teach them selfs to tie there own shoelaces … alot of teachers are more of just an autoraty figure that you not suposed to fuck with … they should be your friends … who you gonna listen to more? … some one you like? .. or some one you dont?

so true
March 29, 2009 at 1:05 pm

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General Lighting

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DaftFader;316308 wrote:

how the fuck are you suposed to learn if your bored out of you mind? … you not gonna be thinking about what the teacher is making you copy off the board .. you just gonna be thinking about hometime or lunch break …. some teachers are great .. i had a few amazing teachers .. but the majority didn’t know how to teach them selfs to tie there own shoelaces … alot of teachers are more of just an autoraty figure that you not suposed to fuck with … they should be your friends … who you gonna listen to more? … some one you like? .. or some one you dont?

exactly. Its worth also remembering that when Daftfader attended school (from primary all the way to year 12/13) he would have been subject to a situation where education in London was starved of investment and policies bogged down in political wrangling, as the new local authorities were taking over from ILEA (a centralised education authority for all of London which existed until 1990)

That said one reason my own family moved away from London in the 1970s is that they did not want me to attend school there as “classes were too large and the schools were rough”. How true this is (and whether it was any worse than Reading where I ended up) I do not know.
March 29, 2009 at 1:09 pm

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General Lighting

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Shpongled;316306 wrote:

I always keep my social life and ‘party’ life separate, as I have seen how a few people I know haven’t, and that it really can interfere with their education. One of my friends got heavily into smoking weed (I never did) and now is regularly off school, or excluded or whatever (I’m not saying there is a definite link, but there must be something there..).

there is, particularly with todays stronger varieties of weed. They divert your attention span and desire to conform to social norms, which of course makes it difficult to accept the institutional régime you find in a high school.

looking back on my 6th form (yrs 12/13) days its a wonder I didn’t get excluded – I managed to scrape through my A-levels and just about get into uni, where I discovered class As and only stayed there 2 years (although to be fair I never wanted to be there in the first place).

however today there are hopefully better and wider options for young people and from what yourself and josh have said there appears to be a new generation of young people finally learning from others mistakes who are well set to show society that lifestyles such as raving aren’t as potentially destructive as people fear…
March 29, 2009 at 1:14 pm

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DaftFader

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General Lighting;316314 wrote:

exactly. Its worth also remembering that when Daftfader attended school (from primary all the way to year 12/13) he would have been subject to a situation where education in London was starved of investment and policies bogged down in political wrangling, as the new local authorities were taking over from ILEA (a centralised education authority for all of London which existed until 1990)

That said one reason my own family moved away from London in the 1970s is that they did not want me to attend school there as “classes were too large and the schools were rough”. How true this is (and whether it was any worse than Reading where I ended up) I do not know.

that really depends on what school it is … some are known for being bad .. normaly the ones close to housing estates and high rise flats have the most problems .. poverty stricken kids who are pissed off they have fuck all …. these are the people that might try and rob you as well …
March 29, 2009 at 1:19 pm

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@DaftFader 316317 wrote:

that really depends on what school it is … some are known for being bad .. normaly the ones close to housing estates and high rise flats have the most problems .. poverty stricken kids who are pissed off they have fuck all …. these are the people that might try and rob you as well …

It’s not just a chshflow problem, I know teachers who work in very poor areas, but because the kids and their skills are valued, they are genuinely nice people. In another school in a town with a big divide between the rich and the poor where the poor kids and their skills are undervalued there is a LOT of trouble.
March 29, 2009 at 1:23 pm

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DaftFader

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TEK Tonic;316319 wrote:

It’s not just a chshflow problem, I know teachers who work in very poor areas, but because the kids and their skills are valued, they are genuinely nice people. In another school in a town with a big divide between the rich and the poor where the poor kids and their skills are undervalued there is a LOT of trouble.

yeah there is no reason to rebel unless you are unhappy about something ..
but this is what i am saing … the teachers of the kids you are talking about in the poor area have managed to capture the kids imagination … wear as this other school sounds like more of a formality
March 29, 2009 at 1:30 pm

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I think it has more to do with the community than the school or the teachers. In London there is a massive divide between rich and poor and the city puts a lot of value on income. In (some) smaller towns value is given to other things too (like job satisfaction) so the anger felt by the people (parents, teachers and kids alike) is not as strong.

In this situation, the quality of a teacher has much less to do with a kid’s success than the attitudes of the other kids in the school (which probably came from their parents).
March 29, 2009 at 1:33 pm

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MisterDuck

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school doesn’t work because formal education is a “one size fits all” policy, and quite clearly one size does not fit all
March 29, 2009 at 1:38 pm

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DaftFader

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TEK Tonic;316326 wrote:

I think it has more to do with the community than the school or the teachers. In London there is a massive divide between rich and poor and the city puts a lot of value on income. In (some) smaller towns value is given to other things too (like job satisfaction) so the anger felt by the people (parents, teachers and kids alike) is not as strong.

In this situation, the quality of a teacher has much less to do with a kid’s success than the attitudes of the other kids in the school (which probably came from their parents).

that’s a good point … in my ideal world teachers would make the best out of bad kids … and make the good better … but it don’t allways work out like that … people are too complex for one rule fits all … personalised education is the way forward … (no cash for it) … and more stimulating puzzles when young .. like 2-3 … like what you was saing about the brain connections … if kids learn when they are going through them changes … the capasity to mold there minds into being very clever is easy … there was a study on this … a few peoples parents put there kids through “alternative” schooling … custom designed to stimulate the brain when it most mattered … and every single one .. and i mean all of them .. are border line genious! they all came top of there classes in senior school when they intagrated into real school …
March 29, 2009 at 1:42 pm

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Clang

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Like Boothy says – one size does not fit all… but they are working on it! Despite how it often seems, the government really do try to make things work in schools, they just aren’t that good at it :you_crazy
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