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June 17, 2008 at 9:00 pm

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Raj;222795 wrote:

Live is the tip, sleeve is earth or neutral, ignore the ring for a TRS [stereo jack] which is the one with 3 solder/wire connectors you are likely to have AHC.
You can check which is which bit of the jack/soldering point with a multi meter
[my ones are shortest=tip and longest/tallest = sleeve which I believe is fairly standard, ignore the middle sized post]

i dont know what a tip or sleave is. i dont have a multi metre or know how to use one apart from testing car n truck battrys.

does live go in the hole?
June 17, 2008 at 9:05 pm

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General Lighting;222798 wrote:

its not that straightforward because of all the different types of plugs, wires etc.

It can’t be and won’t be because none of the companies what make technical equipment – anything – rigs, hi fi, computers, telecoms agree on the connectors and pinouts, especially as they or other companies often make money on selling the connectors and cables.

is there absolutely no one round your way or in Manchester you can even pay to make the cables up for you?

seriously if you can’t find people in your crew to do this you will run into a lot of problems, and you are better off giving up or selling the rig to the youths.

as you’ve done some work on the speakers you could probably get more on it on ebay than what you paid for the kit from Dan or anyone else

Even the ketamine addled youths of East Anglia somehow manage to get their kit wired up…

I could ask the sheep where i live http://www.saddleworth.net/greendove.htm

if i could sus out where to put the live wire on the jack its a 50/50 eather in the centre hole or the shorter peg id get one complete.

i was hoping to get abit better n make an armoured cable for my genni coz its goton faulty i think its an earth. i’m abit better with mains as its easyer coz the colours all match up..
June 17, 2008 at 9:13 pm

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The jack has three bits separated by 2 black rings if it is a stereo jack – they are called [from the tip to the cable end in order] the tip, the ring and the sleeve from which the term TRS jack [tip, ring , sleeve jack] is derived.

The tip is the pointy bit on the plug and has the shortest thing to which the cable can be attached on the other end. The ring [you can ignore this part of the jack] is the next bit along the plug from the tip and goes to the middle length wire attaching point. The sleeve is the longest part of the plug which is inserted in the socket and has the longest bit of metal of all the wire attaching points at the other end.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TRS_connector

There is a picture at the bottom of the wiki page if thats easier for you.

so – live on the short tab and neutral on the longest one 😉 [sorry mate its been a long day/week and its the first time I saw the threads on this subject]
June 17, 2008 at 9:27 pm

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If you have a one aa battery torch bulb and an aa battery and some bits of wire here is an improvised multimeter type thingy to identify the connections in your jack.

wire up the battery +ve to the bulb flat collar [-ve]
a wire from the -ve on the battery with a bare end
wire from the tip of the bulb to a bare end

connect the 2 bare ends to make sure it working and then you can use the two bare ends to check and see which of the combinations of tabs and plug bits on your jack are connected together as only the right tab/plug bit combination will light the bulb for you
June 17, 2008 at 9:28 pm

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Raj;222806 wrote:

The jack has three bits separated by 2 black rings if it is a stereo jack – they are called [from the tip to the cable end in order] the tip, the ring and the sleeve from which the term TRS jack [tip, ring , sleeve jack] is derived.

The tip is the pointy bit on the plug and has the shortest thing to which the cable can be attached on the other end. The ring [you can ignore this part of the jack] is the next bit along the plug from the tip and goes to the middle length wire attaching point. The sleeve is the longest part of the plug which is inserted in the socket and has the longest bit of metal of all the wire attaching points at the other end.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TRS_connector

There is a picture at the bottom of the wiki page if thats easier for you.

so – live on the short tab and neutral on the longest one 😉 [sorry mate its been a long day/week and its the first time I saw the threads on this subject]

ta for that mate. i’ll get that wired up later. so nothing went in the hole after all. 🙂
June 17, 2008 at 9:41 pm

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MrAHC;222812 wrote:

ta for that mate. i’ll get that wired up later. so nothing went in the hole after all. 🙂

don’t worry about the hole. the metal bit surrounding the “hole” is connected to the short tab (where live/white cable goes to) – its the same piece of metal! Not all jack plugs have this hole but they all have the short tab.

if only I had a spare jack I’d actually take a photo of it to explain what I mean (and I did look for a photo on the net) and put it up here for the benefit of yourself and anyone else who needs this info.

its the sort of thing what is simple once you see a picture of it.

as for crossovers half the people what own them don’t know how to work them either, and the amount of ket being done at raves means few people notice. Although I was helping people fix cables (both mains and signal) until 2005, and also doing this for a living for the TV industry, I stopped being involved in setting up entire rigs years before then. At that time crossovers weren’t in common use.

If elretardo, raj or anyone else puts up an easy guide to crossovers it could be very handy to certain people.
June 17, 2008 at 10:09 pm

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General Lighting;222814 wrote:

as for crossovers half the people what own them don’t know how to work them either, and the amount of ket being done at raves means few people notice. Although I was helping people fix cables (both mains and signal) until 2005, and also doing this for a living for the TV industry, I stopped being involved in setting up entire rigs years before then. At that time crossovers weren’t in common use.

If elretardo, raj or anyone else puts up an easy guide to crossovers it could be very handy to certain people.

i’m woryed i’ll get the live xlrs into the wrong holes and vice versa on the amps. theres no indecation on anythin
June 17, 2008 at 10:11 pm

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idiots diagram of a trs jack mate
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