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Proper tester kits or a reliable source is key. Also PMA takes much longer to breakdown and be absorbed by the body. So take an xtc pill and usually it takes roughly 20-40 minutes to start kicking in; within an hour you should be on your way to Guernsey. This is an estimate of course and each person is different, plus there are too many variables such as stomach content and individual metabolism etc. But generally speaking most people fit into those time scales. 90 minutes after consumption, if you’re not riding the crest by then you probably have duds or just weak pills.

PMA however is much slower to kick in, it can take up to two hours before you start to feel much at all. Speaking from personal experience I find a true mdma pill will give you a very definitive KAPOW! moment where you become very much aware that “I’ve just come up like a motherfucker”, PMA may feel similar but is a smoother come up, much more gradual and more sneaks up on you. Again that’s just my experience and everyone reacts differently.

The main reason PMA causes so many deaths isn’t just because it’s a harmful chemical but because it’s sold as MDMA so people misidentify it and follow the wrong guidelines for use. People are used to a pill making them peak after an hour or so and when it doesn’t take another. As PMA is far more potent than MDMA all it takes is two doses too close together and as Digital Buddha said you’ll find yourself overheating; plus the risk of developing Serotonin syndrome, which can be difficult to spot until too late as the individual developing it will feel good. Until they go cold and blue.

@DangerousDave1 560183 wrote:

Right thanks guys, one last thing..

Can PMA come in a crystal? I’ve heard various reports, just wondering if its sold on as MDMA in its crystaline form?

I stress so much, I’m meant to be rolling tonight, I know the second that familiar buzz hits me I’m going to be fine, but until then its just all pre trip anxiety..

Personally I have never heard of crystalline PMA or MDMA contaminated PMA, only esctasy pills containing the stuff as it’s easier to conceal in a pill that has ingredients such as binders and bulkers in it anyway. However after doing a quick search I’ve found it can and indeed is sold as pure MDMA or mixed with pure MDMA. It seems it is occasionally sold as PMA too, guess because it’s cheap there will always be some that want it. Images of pure Para-Methoxyamphetamine PMA seem to be hard to come by, just had a look and I’m still not sure what it looks like. Most supposed images of it resemble Ketamine though [ATTACH=CONFIG]85937[/ATTACH] (that’s ketamine in that image) But as you can see it is more of a powder than MDMA’s crystal formation, I think PMA is the same powdery/granulated texture as Ket, plus it seems to be rather white like sugar. Not a colour I’d ever expect MDMA to be

@DangerousDave1 560204 wrote:

This is the stuff anyway (obviously wont self inciminate)

One is crushed up and the other was left as bought:
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Yep, that one on the left looks like MDMA to me, obviously can’t say 100% through a picture only, but if it’s come from your usual source I wouldn’t suspect anything of it.

If however they were trying to sell it me already crushed, like the bag on the right, I’d be highly dubious. After learning what PMA looks like you can see how it would be easy to cut md with it and it probably go unnoticed.

@DangerousDave1 560209 wrote:

Yeah, both bags were of the same contents before my friend crushed the one up..

I’ve got a few nasty stories about buying unknown powder, perhaps that’s where my pre drop anxiety comes from, infact i’ve used several tests which have shown up black on the regent only to find out i’ve also consumed some other stuff, I’ve had plenty of 2-C substances (as im sure many many pill takers have) thats the reason i’ve shut up shop with regards to pills.. Although I hear the pill game is getting better, I just find I get more bang for buck out of crystal anyway.

I’ve never knowingly had any 2C-x containing pills but have had pills with ket in. Years before I tried actual Ketamine so at the time had no idea what the fuck we’d taken. Resulted in a group of about 8 of us sat in my bedroom squawking at each other like birds for about 3 hours lol. Plus never tried any 2Cs full-stop so wouldn’t be able to identify if I had taken a pill containing one of the many 2C options anyway.

AMT comes at about £50 a gram depending on your vendor. But a gram of AMT will give far more doses than MDMA. Just realised AMT was being discussed in other thrread but fuck it lol