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i don’t have enough experience of protesting to be able to decide really, certainly i’ve never seen an effective protest (as in, actually achieved their goal) either at local or national level.

i don’t necesarily think violent protests are a good thing, as they can be counter-productive, but also i think if it was a mass violent-protest it might bat an eyelid or two, something what peaceful protests don’t really do (ok, the PM might say a sentence about it the next day “oh we’ve taken it on board” yeah course you have)

tbh unlike a lotta people i’m gonna be totally honest about this: its the same type thrill that gets anyone, its pointless destruction and counter-productive but to be truthful its fun and an adrenaline rush, for a lot of people the reasons behind the protest is just a justification for their actions (not all though!)

however i don’t think peaceful protests do a great deal, im not saying they’re pointless, because it was headline news all day, 35,000 in london marching etc. it was good to hear as bbc’s first news headline

maybe a medium, as in “stunts” on property (graffiti, barracading, i don’t know) that whilst illegal is a step back from throwin molotov cocktails at riot police till they draft the army in. but these things can go hand in hand if the riot police decide you’re gonna be moved…

G20 protest: thousands attend Put People First march | World news | guardian.co.uk

i completely agree with this, i’d have been in london today if i wasn’t ill, been in bed the past 2 days, am fairly better now but it was far too late to head down!

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i dont think violence is any better at achieving the actual aim but it seems something that can’t just be ignored, a government can ignore people marching, but people smashing up their buildings and threatening their “hold” they can’t not take notice of

they cant ignore it – but whether it achieves its aim – I dunno….

it is entirely selfish of course. but a lot of people won’t admit it but i thought i would, i believe in honesty whether it’s a good or bad thing! it has an appeal regardless of the protest itself, an appeal in pure enjoyment

and I’m deffo up for honest open debate – if things like this get people talking it all for the better in my opinion

isn’t anarchy/anti-establishment linked with a lot of the protest message anyway? well perhaps not anarchy as this particular protest it seems socialism was on the calling cards, but certainly against the powers that be

I believe with working with in / along side the system – getting people together to try and change the system –

what I think I meant was real ‘anti whatever’ you know those who really dot give a fuck about whatever the ’cause’ is and who just wanna have a ruck for their own personal reasons (leave me alon I’m on pint 6 of wrongbow :laugh_at:)

when things as a whole are going well for the country, people probably thought activists were hippy idiots whining, or people lookin for a ruck. now it’s all gone to shit, i’d say even violent activists might get a bit of sympathy from a lot of people!

well – even when the ecconomic situation has been better there has been anti criminal justice / anti nazi league / animal rights / human rights / teacher / fire persons / nurses etc demos going on – but maybe just not ‘hit’ the news so much…. but alot of the poeple that attend them are the general public and not what you’d have in mind as ‘ard core activists, but people who really care but prehaps dont shout about it and just get on with it …

i’ve no doubt the police have infiltrated violent activists… i think what our above powers do know is shitloads more than even the most paranoid expect, to be honest!

and even the most paranoid people prob havent got a clue about how involed the police are with monitoring certain people / groups

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on nights all this week unfortunatley,

would liked to have gone up