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Whatever your thoughts on religion are i want to know what you think about Possession.
I dont necessarily believe in either God or the Devil but definatly think there is more out there spiritualy.
Just watched an american documentary type thing called The Possessed. most of the cases i can almost certainly say are hoaxes. i can just tell by the body language. complete bollocks. but the case of Anneliese Michel has definatly made me wonder..
Are these people psycotic, physically ill, possessed or simply seeking attention?
fuck knows tbh mate, just read what happened to her, sounds pretty mad Anneliese Michel – Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
i think you can possibly have negative energies link themselves to you same as positive, but as for being possessed totally who knows. my mate told me when i was reading the astral plane book that you have to be carefull leaving your body cause someone or something else could jump into it while its vacant. im skeptical about so much of all this though, but at the same time belive in it as well if that makes sense…
yea it makes alot of sense to me. i really dont know what to believe. but for some reason find it hard not to believe what happened to Anneliese.. you can download a 90 min sound recording of one of the exorsism rituals that was carried out on her. i know its a sound recording an can be tampered with an whatnot but somethings telling me it hasnt
you could argue that the existence of some sort of supreme being is self evident. but as far as im concenred belief in an evil underling like a deamon as well as a god is illogical.
I think it’s just mental illness. Once upon a time epileptics looked like they were possessed but we now know the science behind it.
we invented deamons as a way of dealing wiht the dark side of our consciousness. its easier to blame a monster with horns than believe that people are capable of despicable things.
@Iacchus 403848 wrote:
I think it’s just mental illness. Once upon a time epileptics looked like they were possessed but we now know the science behind it.
yea, in almost every case ive read about Epilepcy has been involved. Its even been said in recent times that specific drugs used to treat Epileptics has left the patient or the possessed even more open to demonic attacks… this im not sure on.
In the 19th century the mentally ill were considerd to be “under the control of the Devil” and were simply locked away from civilisation in insane asylums. I read about one kind of treatment that was used in the asylums consisted of a bath of scolding hot water and a second bath of freezing water. The patient would sit in the hot water for an hour or so then dumped into the cold bath straight away as a method to shock whatever was inside out of the body.
Science and Religion. 2 things that confuse and irritate the fuck out of me!
from wiki
Demonic possession is recognized as a psychiatric or medical diagnosis by either the DSM-IV as the Religious or Spiritual Problem V62.89 or the ICD-10as F44.3 Trance and possession disorders. There are many psychological ailments commonly misunderstood as demonic possession, particularly dissociative identity disorder. In the early- to mid-20 Century, “mania” or “hysteria” were common diagnoses, but such terminology has generally fallen out of favor. In cases of dissociative identity disorder in which the alter personality is questioned as to its identity, 29% are reported to identify themselves as demons.[9] However doctors see this as a mental disease called demonomania or demonopathy, a monomania in which the patient believes that he or she is possessed by one or more demons.[citation needed].
@smokeitup 403846 wrote:
yea it makes alot of sense to me. i really dont know what to believe. but for some reason find it hard not to believe what happened to Anneliese.. you can download a 90 min sound recording of one of the exorsism rituals that was carried out on her. i know its a sound recording an can be tampered with an whatnot but somethings telling me it hasnt
I doubt it was tampered with, but being both a former Catholic and my private research into European history of the 1970s and 1980s, this is clearly a bleak case of a young girl suffering mental health issues in a community which fed her with negative energy and guilt and was itself in bitter (and still unresolved) conflict between religious conservatives and the emerging social democracy encouraging modern methods of mental health treatment. And if her community hadn’t made such a fuss over the rise of the permissive society I bet she wouldn’t have been as guilty about it!
there is still a very strong Christian and socially conservative movement (both Catholic and Protestant) in the middle class, successful areas of Germany and the Netherlands and the real power they have is scarier than any demons.
i reckon takin dmt, acid,etc when near a possessed person would open a direct line to the demon or whatever is inside them, if anything it would protect you and give you the upper hand whn dealing with it, i also reckon takin it in a haunted house or where poltergeists r present would help you communicate with them
@SpacedInvader(ROI) 428384 wrote:
i reckon takin dmt, acid,etc when near a possessed person would open a direct line to the demon or whatever is inside them, if anything it would protect you and give you the upper hand whn dealing with it, i also reckon takin it in a haunted house or where poltergeists r present would help you communicate with them
What about if you took DMT left your body and then the demon possesed it. (assuming demons exsist)
@SpacedInvader(ROI) 428384 wrote:
i reckon takin dmt, acid,etc when near a possessed person would open a direct line to the demon or whatever is inside them, if anything it would protect you and give you the upper hand whn dealing with it, i also reckon takin it in a haunted house or where poltergeists r present would help you communicate with them
Back when I used to do paranormal investigations (sounds better than ghosthunting lol) We toyed with the idea of doing acid at haunted locations, gave up in the end. Figured too much could go wrong. Wish I had known about Ketamine back then. That stuff would be good I reckon!
You into the paranormal mate? :love:
my mum seems to believe she’s being haunted by a former boy friend, he died about 4 years ago of a heart attack caused by excessive smoking. For the past 2-3 week she has been getting strong scents of cigarette smoke all over the house, now, i’m the only smoker in the house and i smoke in the garden, as far from the house as possible (don’t like the house to smell).
This is very strange as I myself have caught the smell once or twice. Its not next door they don’t smoke…….strange
@nn-Gazatryptamine 428416 wrote:
my mum seems to believe she’s being haunted by a former boy friend, he died about 4 years ago of a heart attack caused by excessive smoking. For the past 2-3 week she has been getting strong scents of cigarette smoke all over the house, now, i’m the only smoker in the house and i smoke in the garden, as far from the house as possible (don’t like the house to smell).
This is very strange as I myself have caught the smell once or twice. Its not next door they don’t smoke…….strange
This is strange, although not entirely so. I have heard of this happening before. Do you think your mum would be up for trying to make contact with him?
If so then ask her to call out to him and ask him to make contact by using the following method. Get a packet of smokes or another object he can identify with. Put it on a blank piece of paper and then draw around the object. Leave it where no one will mess with it, maybe in a quiet room or at night when everyone is sleeping.
Look at the paper in the morning and see if the object has moved. If you want to take it a step further then let me know! 😉
i don’t believe in demons so i don’t believe in possession.. i just can’t see the biological possibility of it. and some people might call it closed-minded, but i don’t put much weight in things that seem to contradict science. i wish i could open my mind more, though. i’ve never really explored it.
@GiantMidget 428452 wrote:
This is strange, although not entirely so. I have heard of this happening before. Do you think your mum would be up for trying to make contact with him?
If so then ask her to call out to him and ask him to make contact by using the following method. Get a packet of smokes or another object he can identify with. Put it on a blank piece of paper and then draw around the object. Leave it where no one will mess with it, maybe in a quiet room or at night when everyone is sleeping.
Look at the paper in the morning and see if the object has moved. If you want to take it a step further then let me know! 😉
hmm, i doubt she would tbh, but i’m quite intrigued as to what the hell is going on
@nn-Gazatryptamine 428457 wrote:
hmm, i doubt she would tbh, but i’m quite intrigued as to what the hell is going on
Try it yourself mate! 😉
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