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Sorry, I didn’t answer that question at all… really need more sleep.
Yeah, You need LSA, which is in the seeds, but also in the seeds are chemicals that makes it very difficult to get any kind of pure extraction out (these are the ones that make you sick). The rings you’re building through the synth are very unstable, you need pure 100% pure LSA, which means an LSA synth before your LSD synth. Anything you see on the web suggesting fungal sources, or seeds as a starting point is a sure sign you’ve got a muppet selling books (pre-net there was a big market in synth books, LSD was very popular).
So either you synth your LSA (it’s not as hard as what comes next but we’re still way above MDxx) or buy pure LSA from a chemical supplier where only checks are made and you pull a good blag, not licences needed (like here), or bribe a licensed company in financial trouble to lose stock. There are offshore guys who specialise in providing black market precursors, but any chemist is constantly running the risk of them being busted and LE taking up their e-mails, which is how it works, so you need to protect yourself in 2 ways, first with a mailbox in a false name which requires good false ID (500 – 3000 quid) then run a few packs through from the same country, before bouncing the target pack. (all mailbox employees are required to watch for suspicious behaviour so you need to be able to play a good actor’s role). This has to be done for each precursor (gives you a fighting chance at a defence if you just get unlucky). Payment is always WU, in their countries ID not required or they use fake, or have their own access to terminal and use stolen ID. You need to be doing the same, or you have left a footprint.
Police never seize the first delivery, so you don’t know if your system works. They will deliver the second or third to you personally, while the case brought against you will bring in a consultant who without any experience in the actual synth you use will calculate from your largest amount of class 1 precursor the optimal 100% yield. You are left in front of a jury looking blankly while you’re trying to explain what a mol or redundant catalyst is, and that your yield was actually 3%, they have no idea but basically dislike you on account you’ve been cooking. The police always chase a cook, a lab bust is pretty much an instant promotion. 14 years max sentence. 10 is typical, perhaps out in 6-7. You naturally lose all your glassware too.
basically, leave it to the pros, even trying can get you in a load of trouble.
LSD is very easy to smuggle though, in that a tiny quantity is worth a lot, and providing it’s dark, pretty stable once made, so is typically synthed in other countries where bribes are easier and shipped here.
Hope that covers it all. Personally I dislike the drug, the few times I’ve tried it I’ve found it goes on too long and I’ve got paranoid (although that was during a period where pretty much any drug did that to me), and the comedown feels like tinfoil in my skin. Anyone else get that? Horrible. But the guys who like it really really like it. I’m sure there’s some on here.
Oh, if anyone wants help for LSD testing let me know and I can send them little bits needed to test for it, it’s simple when you know how and only lose a tiny bit. It only tests for real LSD, and that you haven’t a chinese RC in solvent (very, very common)
right, back to work…
2C-E and 4-AcO-DMT are both great drugs. You shouldn’t ask for links here though, spreading links (even to legitimate people) quickly gets sites shut down.
However both can be find from an easy to find vendor on the first page of Google, just remember to check a vendor review site like Safe or Scam first to make sure the site/s you find is/are legit.
@mushroom_john 394596 wrote:
Sorry, I didn’t answer that question at all… really need more sleep.
Yeah, You need LSA, which is in the seeds, but also in the seeds are chemicals that makes it very difficult to get any kind of pure extraction out (these are the ones that make you sick). The rings you’re building through the synth are very unstable, you need pure 100% pure LSA, which means an LSA synth before your LSD synth. Anything you see on the web suggesting fungal sources, or seeds as a starting point is a sure sign you’ve got a muppet selling books (pre-net there was a big market in synth books, LSD was very popular).
So either you synth your LSA (it’s not as hard as what comes next but we’re still way above MDxx) or buy pure LSA from a chemical supplier where only checks are made and you pull a good blag, not licences needed (like here), or bribe a licensed company in financial trouble to lose stock. There are offshore guys who specialise in providing black market precursors, but any chemist is constantly running the risk of them being busted and LE taking up their e-mails, which is how it works, so you need to protect yourself in 2 ways, first with a mailbox in a false name which requires good false ID (500 – 3000 quid) then run a few packs through from the same country, before bouncing the target pack. (all mailbox employees are required to watch for suspicious behaviour so you need to be able to play a good actor’s role). This has to be done for each precursor (gives you a fighting chance at a defence if you just get unlucky). Payment is always WU, in their countries ID not required or they use fake, or have their own access to terminal and use stolen ID. You need to be doing the same, or you have left a footprint.
Police never seize the first delivery, so you don’t know if your system works. They will deliver the second or third to you personally, while the case brought against you will bring in a consultant who without any experience in the actual synth you use will calculate from your largest amount of class 1 precursor the optimal 100% yield. You are left in front of a jury looking blankly while you’re trying to explain what a mol or redundant catalyst is, and that your yield was actually 3%, they have no idea but basically dislike you on account you’ve been cooking. The police always chase a cook, a lab bust is pretty much an instant promotion. 14 years max sentence. 10 is typical, perhaps out in 6-7. You naturally lose all your glassware too.
basically, leave it to the pros, even trying can get you in a load of trouble.
LSD is very easy to smuggle though, in that a tiny quantity is worth a lot, and providing it’s dark, pretty stable once made, so is typically synthed in other countries where bribes are easier and shipped here.
Hope that covers it all. Personally I dislike the drug, the few times I’ve tried it I’ve found it goes on too long and I’ve got paranoid (although that was during a period where pretty much any drug did that to me), and the comedown feels like tinfoil in my skin. Anyone else get that? Horrible. But the guys who like it really really like it. I’m sure there’s some on here.
Oh, if anyone wants help for LSD testing let me know and I can send them little bits needed to test for it, it’s simple when you know how and only lose a tiny bit. It only tests for real LSD, and that you haven’t a chinese RC in solvent (very, very common)
right, back to work…
Nice post. LSD is nectar but i realise most mushie fanatics aren’t that into it.
@p0ly 394601 wrote:
Nice post. LSD is nectar but i realise most mushie fanatics aren’t that into it.
hehehe, thought you’d be a fan of acid 😉 fair play, it’s just not for me. I’m totally behind psychedelics though. For my the days of uppers and downers are gone, now I just like round and rounders :love:
I love the story behind LSD though. And it’s history as a recreational use. Anyone got a link to the army tests? Amazing.
I advise anyone toying with drugs to try the ones that bend you and can teach you things, in whatever form they can get them. So much more fun than something that just slows you down or makes you go talk faster and keep you up. But then I’m getting old 😥
But each to their own x
YouTube – LSD Testing (British Troops)
christ, some of the quotes in this are amazingly hilarious
“the efficiency of the rocket launcher team was significantly impaired”.
The last 10 seconds is the best.
@mushroom_john 394596 wrote:
Sorry, I didn’t answer that question at all… really need more sleep.
Yeah, You need LSA, which is in the seeds, but also in the seeds are chemicals that makes it very difficult to get any kind of pure extraction out (these are the ones that make you sick). The rings you’re building through the synth are very unstable, you need pure 100% pure LSA, which means an LSA synth before your LSD synth. Anything you see on the web suggesting fungal sources, or seeds as a starting point is a sure sign you’ve got a muppet selling books (pre-net there was a big market in synth books, LSD was very popular).
So either you synth your LSA (it’s not as hard as what comes next but we’re still way above MDxx) or buy pure LSA from a chemical supplier where only checks are made and you pull a good blag, not licences needed (like here), or bribe a licensed company in financial trouble to lose stock. There are offshore guys who specialise in providing black market precursors, but any chemist is constantly running the risk of them being busted and LE taking up their e-mails, which is how it works, so you need to protect yourself in 2 ways, first with a mailbox in a false name which requires good false ID (500 – 3000 quid) then run a few packs through from the same country, before bouncing the target pack. (all mailbox employees are required to watch for suspicious behaviour so you need to be able to play a good actor’s role). This has to be done for each precursor (gives you a fighting chance at a defence if you just get unlucky). Payment is always WU, in their countries ID not required or they use fake, or have their own access to terminal and use stolen ID. You need to be doing the same, or you have left a footprint.
Police never seize the first delivery, so you don’t know if your system works. They will deliver the second or third to you personally, while the case brought against you will bring in a consultant who without any experience in the actual synth you use will calculate from your largest amount of class 1 precursor the optimal 100% yield. You are left in front of a jury looking blankly while you’re trying to explain what a mol or redundant catalyst is, and that your yield was actually 3%, they have no idea but basically dislike you on account you’ve been cooking. The police always chase a cook, a lab bust is pretty much an instant promotion. 14 years max sentence. 10 is typical, perhaps out in 6-7. You naturally lose all your glassware too.
basically, leave it to the pros, even trying can get you in a load of trouble.
LSD is very easy to smuggle though, in that a tiny quantity is worth a lot, and providing it’s dark, pretty stable once made, so is typically synthed in other countries where bribes are easier and shipped here.
Hope that covers it all. Personally I dislike the drug, the few times I’ve tried it I’ve found it goes on too long and I’ve got paranoid (although that was during a period where pretty much any drug did that to me), and the comedown feels like tinfoil in my skin. Anyone else get that? Horrible. But the guys who like it really really like it. I’m sure there’s some on here.
Oh, if anyone wants help for LSD testing let me know and I can send them little bits needed to test for it, it’s simple when you know how and only lose a tiny bit. It only tests for real LSD, and that you haven’t a chinese RC in solvent (very, very common)
right, back to work…
Ta for that info … very educational!
Just so you know I wasn’t planing of making LSD from the extracted LSA I was just saing it was possible (even if not practicle)with a good enough LSA extraction technique but like you say even the best one I found wouldn’t leave the LSA 100% pure.
@mushroom_john 394606 wrote:
YouTube – LSD Testing (British Troops)
christ, some of the quotes in this are amazingly hilarious
“the efficiency of the rocket launcher team was significantly impaired”.
The last 10 seconds is the best.
“With one man climbing a tree to feed the birds.”
HAHA!
That video is fucking priceless!
“Radio communication became difficult” and the bloke is wrapping the receiver round a tree!
@Spazhazzard 394618 wrote:
That video is fucking priceless!
“Radio communication became difficult” and the bloke is wrapping the receiver round a tree!
the climbing the tree quote probably is the best soundbite, but the bit when they say communication became difficult as the guy wraps the cable around the tree laughing his balls off is amazing. The best thing is the austere voice commentating throughout.
Another classic is the prisoner escort – the building is in plain sight, but they need a map and detailed directions to set up the mission. In fact the truth that they have a real actual mission while tripping their tits off rather than have to make one up like the rest of us, like who is going to tackle the itunes using a touchpad to keep the music going, is amazing, I wish I’d joined the army.
The last scene where the CO finally just gives up (I think an hour into the trip) and drops to his arse laughing with the rest of the guys is beautiful. Great clip.
Bless the kid who freaks at the start. Just needs a hug and some horlicks, change of music, room and light, if only they’d known back then… should have checked what to do on partyvibe :love:
@mushroom_john 394627 wrote:
Bless the kid who freaks at the start. Just needs a hug and some horlicks, change of music, room and light, if only they’d known back then… should have checked what to do on partyvibe :love:
:laugh_at:
@mushroom_john 394627 wrote:
the climbing the tree quote probably is the best soundbite, but the bit when they say communication became difficult as the guy wraps the cable around the tree laughing his balls off is amazing.
if you ever listened to a rave partyline operated by certain SE England rave crews this problem still exists :laugh_at:
with regard to LT Luna searching for decent RC’s JesusGreen and others have explained what they are. However, they were all made class A in about 2005, as the same train wreck happened shortly before with the more recent “legal highs” – people started abusing them and running to the NHS for help, thus causing a moral panic and clampdown.
they are still around, but obtaining them requires much more discretion than something like the formerly legal cathinones…
@General Lighting 394700 wrote:
if you ever listened to a rave partyline operated by certain SE England rave crews this problem still exists :laugh_at:
with regard to LT Luna searching for decent RC’s JesusGreen and others have explained what they are. However, they were all made class A in about 2005, as the same train wreck happened shortly before with the more recent “legal highs” – people started abusing them and running to the NHS for help, thus causing a moral panic and clampdown.
they are still around, but obtaining them requires much more discretion than something like the formerly legal cathinones…
Haha some of the partielines I’ve heard have been funny as fuck … people forgeting what they are saing half way trough saing it (suprised people even found some of the parties – on more then one occasion we had to pick a few “probable” places the party may be and hope for the best!)
Best one ever tho was an “Invatation Only Posh Tea Party” with some spangled dude putting on a posh voice telling us what cakey delights there would be at the tea party. (Alot more funny if you heard it with your own ears – and If I could remeber exactly what the dude said!)
This was back when you could get away with “invite only” privet parties.
i just found these online supposedly Psychedelic anyone know wheter or not they are worth it
Trip-e
Fly Agaric Powder
Flying Dragons
I got one o the out of my local head shop once came in the same sort of packaging as the salvia that ruined me dint do anything tho 🙁
Fly Agaric Cap – Amanita Muscaria
Trip-e’s are basicaly morning glory/baby woodrose seeds (can’t remeber which) in pill form .. they have a little of some other stuff in too but that’s the main active thing afaik … they don’t make you feel as ill as just doing the seeds tho as they are processed somewhat. (The active drug in baby woodrose/morning glory seeds is LSA – a precurser to LSD)
there’s also some others in the range like smile-e’s .. but can’t remeber what they were like or what they had in them, or if infact i’ve even done them lol.
I’ve never really got much from Fly Agaric some people have got something i think they need to be eaten as soon as you open the packet as the active chem in them dies quite quickly once it’s removed (I assume the air kills it?)
never heard of that last one tho.
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