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  • Hey, just wondering what prices do you all get your yayo at? From what I understand “flake” as in, high quality >70% is £10 per 0.1 whilst the “repo” as in, repressed/cut cocaine is £40 per 1.0 and £20 per 0.5?

    What’s the quality of the repressed like though? I mean logically it should just be 40% flake 60% cut, right? but I’ve heard repo is around 15-20% yayo and 75-80% cut??

    Okay so, next question…

    Just say hypothetically Bob had access to 80-85% yayo and he was slanging it at the standard 0.1 for £10 prices but found some of his custom wanted more quantity for their buck as opposed to more quality, if he smashed his 80-85% at 1:1 so, 14g of his 80-85% with 14g of benzocaine, what would the quality of this product be like and what would the prices be? Considering repo of 15-20% yayo goes at 40/20 for 1.0/0.5, would say 65/35 for 1.0/0.5 of Bob’s stuff seem like a fair deal?

    Am very curious because the UK has a very odd system to its sales/product when it comes to yayo. There’s literally two different demographics. High grade and low/shit grade but no one seems to be carving a mid-grade aspect which in my eyes would be a pretty lucrative demographic to get into? Considering it’s still good enough for the flake lovers to dabble in and it’s still cheap enough for the repo buyers to go those extra few inches for. Thoughts?

    It’s because there are 2 types of dealers – people who want to give their customers a quality product (good dealers) & people who want to make the most profit they can by selling a massively inferior product (cunts). The cunts get the young &/or ignorant people as customers, whereas the older / more discerning types who prefer a quality product will always seek out someone who ain’t a cunt. That’s pretty much all there is to it. If you or ‘a friend’ are in this game, don’t be 1 of the cunts, sell it as you get it, people will return & you’ll make more money in the long run & have a better reputation. Hope this helps.

    @MC G-Tek 495715 wrote:

    It’s because there are 2 types of dealers – people who want to give their customers a quality product (good dealers) & people who want to make the most profit they can by selling a massively inferior product (cunts). The cunts get the young &/or ignorant people as customers, whereas the older / more discerning types who prefer a quality product will always seek out someone who ain’t a cunt. That’s pretty much all there is to it. If you or ‘a friend’ are in this game, don’t be 1 of the cunts, sell it as you get it, people will return & you’ll make more money in the long run & have a better reputation. Hope this helps.

    With all due respect you didn’t really answer the question, you sort of just went off in some tangent explaining how it’s unmoral/makes someone a cunt for cutting coke and to never ever do it.

    While I don’t really want to get into a debate about the “morality” of it all, I will say this, if they really were cunts they wouldn’t be selling it at 60% less price, surely? Their price fits the product the adage you get what you pay for comes to mind here. Which is basically what my question is about.

    Bob always sell his stuff as he gets it, it’s 80% minimum and he gets it off the top guys who bring it in and sells it as is £100 for a gram, £50 for .5 and £10 for every .1 but Bob has literally had 7-8 different people ask him for “Repo” as his prices are too much for the quantity they’re getting. Yes these people are pretty silly but who are we to give them shit for wanting shit quantity as opposed to good quality, if their viewpoint is quantity > quality then hey, that’s their choice to make thus this gives Bob the dilemma of…stamping on it 4:1 as in, 28g benzo 7g flake (which would still be better than a lot of the shit floating around out there sadly) and giving out the usual 40/20 prices for it OR he can stamp it 1:1 14g benzo/14g flake and sell it at around 60/30, so the question is, if he did do the latter would the 60/30 prices seem fair to people here? Also what would the end product be like from such a cut?

    Just to point it out aswell, Bob will always sell it as he gets it to the people willing to pay his prices but he’d still like to make more where he can, the way he sees it a 1:1 cut of his stuff for 60/30 is a nice way of not being a cunt as he’d still be giving out a decent product whilst also having more quantity for a customers buck and he won’t be stepping on it with some of the toxic shit out there, on top of that it won’t be cut to ribbons to the point where you’re putting 90% benzo, 9% caffeine 0.5% rat poison and 0.5% coke up your nose (yes shit like this does exist and yes people do apparently pay 40/20s for it).

    So instead of giving your moral viewpoint on what is right or wrong, what is your viewpoint on Bobs “cut” product? Would the quality still be acceptable and would a pricing of around 60/30 be fair?

    MC G-Tek wrote:
    you’ll make more money in the long run

    Bob would disagree, as he’d argue that he gets a Z of flake for £1,400. That’s 28g at £10 per .1 he’s making £2,800 max but there’s also the fact the residue and small loss of product everytime he weighs it up so in the end he loses around 1.5-2.0g just from weighing so he makes £2650-2600 max. (All assuming he is only doing gram sales max and not anything higher such as 8 balls, cues and half z’s)

    Now lets look at what happens if Bob hits 14g of his stuff 1:1 and sells it at 60/30s so Bob now has 14g of flake and 28g of good/decent quality cut, instead of 28g of flake.

    28 x 60 = 1680. 280 more than what he would have made selling it as he got it.

    We could also take it a step further to demonstrate how much of a greedy cunt Bob could actually be if he wanted to.

    He could take that 14g and just stamp it 4:1 instead and do 40/20s, shall we do the maths on this?

    Add 56g of cut to the 14g of flake and now he has what? 70g of end product, 2 and a half ounces infact. The % of this would now be pretty standard for what is considered “repo” in the UK, around 15% yayo and the rest cut.

    So lets do the maths on this 70 x 40 = 2800. So he essentially just DOUBLED off 14g of high product. 2800 is what he’d have made if he sold the original product as he got it, instead now he makes an EXTRA 1400 on top!

    So with all due respect your whole “you’ll make more money” is very wrong and I hope this points out to you that Bob, most likely knowing this (if his pricing is correct) is infact, NOT one of the cunts out there as he’s not doing this nor will he ever, he is however considering the 60/30 stuff due to requests directly from his custom. All hypothetical of course but you get the picture.

    Mostly round my way, even the stuff that some of my mates consider to be “high grade” is pants!

    I remember the good old days of £50 for a gramme of quality product. Sadly this seems to be no more. Certainly not around here anyway.

    I reckon if I were to attempt to buy in my old stomping ground then I’d probably be able to acquire something better for my money but as it is here, I pretty much don’t bother.

    Has it occurred to Bob’s customers that they could buy it unbashed from him & then cut it with however much they want of whatever they choose to cut it with? They’d get a lot more for their money that way. And yes, Bob may make more off an oz if he sold it bashed, but he’d get through it quicker if he just sold it intact, therefore making more money. Selling 5oz of something (bashed or not) is gonna take considerably longer than selling 1 oz of something.

    Don’t know what it’s like round your way, but here there are only the 2 demographics that you described in your 1st post (which was the tangent I ended up going off on), think that those 40/20 buyers would object to the extra £10 per1/2g increase & the others would rather just buy the intact stuff. If there is a 3rd group where Bob operates, and they’re asking for this, then that’s up to them I guess. Hope I’ve answered your questions a little more accurately for you this time, and on another note, forgot to say earlier, welcome to partyvibe!

    @Chrispydelic 495757 wrote:

    Mostly round my way, even the stuff that some of my mates consider to be “high grade” is pants!

    I remember the good old days of £50 for a gramme of quality product. Sadly this seems to be no more. Certainly not around here anyway.

    I reckon if I were to attempt to buy in my old stomping ground then I’d probably be able to acquire something better for my money but as it is here, I pretty much don’t bother.

    Yeah but in those days the internet wasn’t relevant, cargo rarely got checked and keys of high purity were £25,000. The price for a key of high purity now is £50,400 and that’s IF you have the right contacts otherwise you’re looking at £70,000+ for a key of >70%

    It’s sad but true, the days of £50 for a gram of flake are long gone.

    MC G-Tek wrote:
    Has it occurred to Bob’s customers that they could buy it unbashed from him & then cut it with however much they want of whatever they choose to cut it with? They’d get a lot more for their money that way. And yes, Bob may make more off an oz if he sold it bashed, but he’d get through it quicker if he just sold it intact, therefore making more money. Selling 5oz of something (bashed or not) is gonna take considerably longer than selling 1 oz of something.

    It’s laziness on their part really. That and they’re not actually sure how to bash it, Bob’s assuming they’re probably worried they won’t be able to mix it together properly e.g they’ll end up with one half of bash and one half of flake as opposed to it being mixed in together evenly. It can be quite tricky to get the bash and coke to bond together in a nice mix, according to Bob. You’re right about it being quicker, that’s true.

    MC G-Tek wrote:
    Don’t know what it’s like round your way, but here there are only the 2 demographics that you described in your 1st post (which was the tangent I ended up going off on), think that those 40/20 buyers would object to the extra £10 per1/2g increase & the others would rather just buy the intact stuff. If there is a 3rd group where Bob operates, and they’re asking for this, then that’s up to them I guess. Hope I’ve answered your questions a little more accurately for you this time, and on another note, forgot to say earlier, welcome to partyvibe!

    If they object to the £10 1/2g increase for something 2-2.5x better than what they’re getting for £10 cheaper then Bob thinks they’re dumb cunts not worth dealing with. Yes thanks for the answers and thanks for the welcome. Bob was just thinking he’d be doing the 40/20 demographic a big favour this way and they’d be willing to fork an extra £10 on the 1/2g for something much better than what they’re getting, safer too. If not then, well. They should just pay 40/20 for .2/.4 of the untouched, in Bobs opinion.

    Hhmmm…this is like a complicated maths A-leval question.
    I guess most dealers did well in maths at school.

    @whatever man 495773 wrote:

    If they object to the £10 1/2g increase for something 2-2.5x better than what they’re getting for £10 cheaper then Bob thinks they’re dumb cunts not worth dealing with. Yes thanks for the answers and thanks for the welcome. Bob was just thinking he’d be doing the 40/20 demographic a big favour this way and they’d be willing to fork an extra £10 on the 1/2g for something much better than what they’re getting, safer too. If not then, well. They should just pay 40/20 for .2/.4 of the untouched, in Bobs opinion.

    I would say Bob is dead right on all of the above!

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