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December 12, 2007 at 12:42 am

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DaftFader

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Playground Politics wrote:

lets remember that religion is a totally man made thing rather than spirituality, and belief, religion has changexd alot from what we think is a long time ago, middle east seems to be in a time warp with religion and it has changed much, this is how we have developed into letting gay maridges be alright, but theres great difference how ppl take in the “word of god”, whitch is the only proof religion has, this is as spirituality is more of a faith. now the question u are asking weather religion can work with raves is irrevelant. a rave is a way of life, religion is a belief, i cant have a belief in raves as they have soul proof that they happen. weather or not raves have time for religion is another topic, raves are free, they imbellish everyone who ever they are (even coppers), its weather religion has time for raves whitch is the main concern,

i personally do believe in greater things than my self, i think there is a god, and im willing to go to raves, that does not mean that i dont sin, cos to be honest the hardest part of a faith is understanding that what ever you do in this world you sin, and excepting that someone much higher can forgive u is a big thought. altho religion in this day is very corrupted, eg iraq, the english church, amaerican christians, israel, atc etc etc. this is where religion has gone wrong and how i hate to associate myself to it

hope that helped, probably didnt

imo religon is man mad and as pp has said changes alot over time .. i meen back in the day you decided that you where a prophet and people were like omg he’s sent from god ..then some one rights a book about you that people base there lives on … now days you decide you are a prophet ..tell some one… a few more ppl hear what you belive and you probably will be seen as a blaspheamer …. and or locked up in mental hospital … who’s to say that crazy guy that walks down your road talking to him self and shouting out “the end is comming” isn’t the next jesus/mohamed ect… well todays sociaty … i meen if jesus hadn’t apeared when he did and decided to apear now .. then no one would listen to him …he would be that crazy man walking down the road … not the son of god that he was made out to be…..as a raver i belive in having fun and generaly trying to be a good person thats all i need.i couldn’t belive something so far fetched as the bibal/korahn or the torrah ect. alltho might read it as a fiction novel if i had the time ….. if some one came up to me in a rave or in my out side life for that matter to talk about religion that would be fine .. as im talking to you lot about it now and you are to me also … the only thing i don’t like is when it gets rammed down your through like the person talking to you is trying to brain wash you …. i meen im respecting there belifs so they should fucking respect mine you know … i guess mixing raves with religon is ok but tbh any one who is truely religous and follows w/e holy txt properly wouldn’t go to a rave because im sure that some activity they would be takeing part in or seeing would be against there religion …like being at a rave on sunday morning instead of being in church/resting or w/e
December 12, 2007 at 12:51 am

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globalloon

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religious people are a joke. personal belief is fine, but organised religion is arrogant and frankly idiotic
December 12, 2007 at 2:03 am

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pillthrill

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Here here! :you_crazy
December 12, 2007 at 6:03 am

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December 12, 2007 at 6:05 am

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December 12, 2007 at 9:42 am

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globalloon wrote:

religious people are a joke. personal belief is fine, but organised religion is arrogant and frankly idiotic

I come from a religious family and i don’t care what they believe in, its their choice.

But some of them are the happy clappy type Christians who preach it to you. The church they go to has signs outside saying Buffy the vampire slayer i evil and you shouldn’t watch it, there were ones about planet of the apes to.

Basically this church is denying that we evolved into what we are today, so they are ignoring science and facts and preaching utter bull shit that has not scientific evidence or facts.

My auntie only found out a couple of months ago that me and my dad don’t believe in god and she was horrified! :laugh_at:
January 13, 2008 at 8:22 am

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bones

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Playground Politics wrote:

lets remember that religion is a totally man made thing rather than spirituality, and belief, religion has changexd alot from what we think is a long time ago, middle east seems to be in a time warp with religion and it has changed much, this is how we have developed into letting gay maridges be alright, but theres great difference how ppl take in the “word of god”, whitch is the only proof religion has, this is as spirituality is more of a faith. now the question u are asking weather religion can work with raves is irrevelant. a rave is a way of life, religion is a belief, i cant have a belief in raves as they have soul proof that they happen. weather or not raves have time for religion is another topic, raves are free, they imbellish everyone who ever they are (even coppers), its weather religion has time for raves whitch is the main concern,

i personally do believe in greater things than my self, i think there is a god, and im willing to go to raves, that does not mean that i dont sin, cos to be honest the hardest part of a faith is understanding that what ever you do in this world you sin, and excepting that someone much higher can forgive u is a big thought. altho religion in this day is very corrupted, eg iraq, the english church, amaerican christians, israel, atc etc etc. this is where religion has gone wrong and how i hate to associate myself to it

hope that helped, probably didnt

I fail to understand your logic, on one hand you say that all religion is manmade, and you are correct, then you say that you believe in god…
It is man that made god, so you contradict yourself!…That is the main problem with religion, contradiction!….So what you mean is this: I BELIEVE IN THE MANMADE GOD AND MANMADE RELIGION….personally, anyone that believes in any god or religion, is basically stupid and uneducated!

Where the fuck is this god? Why the fuck would this god need religion, surely if there is a god, we would not need religion!…And why the fuck would this so called god need to make a fucked up world full of suffering?

The simple answer is that anyone that believes in a god of any description, is simply unable to think for themselves, have a small number of brain cells and don’t know what the fuck they are talking about……:you_crazy
January 13, 2008 at 10:40 am

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Playground Politics

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bones wrote:

I fail to understand your logic, on one hand you say that all religion is manmade, and you are correct, then you say that you believe in god…
It is man that made god, so you contradict yourself!…That is the main problem with religion, contradiction!….So what you mean is this: I BELIEVE IN THE MANMADE GOD AND MANMADE RELIGION….personally, anyone that believes in any god or religion, is basically stupid and uneducated!

Where the fuck is this god? Why the fuck would this god need religion, surely if there is a god, we would not need religion!…And why the fuck would this so called god need to make a fucked up world full of suffering?

The simple answer is that anyone that believes in a god of any description, is simply unable to think for themselves, have a small number of brain cells and don’t know what the fuck they are talking about……:you_crazy

hahaha, sorry if i upset u in what i believe, maybe i am wrong(:weee:).. there is a difference. while writing that i did get my self in a bit of a pickle to say the least. what i meant is that i believe in god, but i dont agree with religion, and religion is the man made aspect of what ppl have created to give an example such as, priests, church hierachy, how the church has sooo much wealth, baptism, all the laws that the catholic church made etc etc. i just dont like how man has changed what is essentially a belief with no real evidence

its true i do have a small number of brain cells tho last count was about 100 million
January 13, 2008 at 10:44 am

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talebosh

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there is no way any of the religions will condone raving. At a rave you may get a sence of unity with fellow ravers that could be miss interpreted as religios experience where’as it is a human experience.

In some ways I want to believe in god just so when i get to meet my maker I can tell him/her what a fucking low life c**t he/she is.

god is most definately NOT a dj, if he is then i’m off to the opera
January 13, 2008 at 10:49 am

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Playground Politics

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talebosh wrote:

god is most definately NOT a dj, if he is then i’m off to the opera

hahaha:laugh_at:
January 13, 2008 at 10:50 am

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Playground Politics

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bones wrote:

And why the fuck would this so called god need to make a fucked up world full of suffering?

god didnt do this, we did!
January 13, 2008 at 6:55 pm

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XLeanne06X

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yes and no
because religion is someones personal beliefs
i personally think religion is a load of bollocks, actually i dont…
RAVE IS MY RELIGION raaa
January 14, 2008 at 8:46 am

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bones

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Playground Politics wrote:

hahaha, sorry if i upset u in what i believe, maybe i am wrong(:weee:).. there is a difference. while writing that i did get my self in a bit of a pickle to say the least. what i meant is that i believe in god, but i dont agree with religion, and religion is the man made aspect of what ppl have created to give an example such as, priests, church hierachy, how the church has sooo much wealth, baptism, all the laws that the catholic church made etc etc. i just dont like how man has changed what is essentially a belief with no real evidence

its true i do have a small number of brain cells tho last count was about 100 million

I have 1 million and 1 brain cells….You didn’t upset me, it’s just in this day and age, when we know the universe came from the big bang, we know (maybe not you though) exactly how we came into existance, we know we evolved from the techno monkey, we know that the bible is manmade, even though we know all this, some people such as yourself, still believe in this manmade god, WHY?….The belief in any god, is nothing more than superstition!…no different from people that believe in fairies or the loch ness monster!…Why do you believe in god? What are you scared of? Do you think you are really going to hell? COME ON, LETS GROW UP FOR FUCK SAKE!!!!!
January 14, 2008 at 9:15 am

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talebosh

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unfortunately the ‘big bang’ theory is just that. A theory that is acceptable to the church as it gives us a point of creation. The big problem with it is that for the first 3 seconds of the universe existance & for the big bang to work there could not be the laws of physics. So now the theory is that for the 1st 3 secs the laws of physics hadn’t fallen into place. So the entire big bang theory is held together with another theory that is unproveable and quite frankly absurd.
January 14, 2008 at 9:35 am

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DaftFader

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talebosh wrote:

unfortunately the ‘big bang’ theory is just that. A theory that is acceptable to the church as it gives us a point of creation. The big problem with it is that for the first 3 seconds of the universe existance & for the big bang to work there could not be the laws of physics. So now the theory is that for the 1st 3 secs the laws of physics hadn’t fallen into place. So the entire big bang theory is held together with another theory that is unproveable and quite frankly absurd.

science has it’s limits ..ie. we only know what we can work out … your getting into the relms of anti matter ect … witch is hard for us to study/understand atm as we dont come across it that often … lol … trying to work out somthing that happened billions of years ago is very hard … at least science goes on fact mostly .. wear as religon goes by some book some dude wrote about 2000 years ago ..give or take a few depending on religion ect. or even older …. but never the less it’s a book/scroll/ect …. for all we know ..it could of been a fiction noval of the 0bc era…:laugh_at: ..(christianity) …. well .. ok jebas did exist …the church and every one else knows this … how? …because the church and every one else relied on scientists to prove that he did through various methods …. any way with out me making this post too long … can i ask why you belive that a theory that can’t be proved is absurd when you belive in the church’s theory of the creation of the earth witch happens to also not proved…?

with out meaning to cause offence to any one i think the church and most religons are a bunch of self centered *$@t’s …. why be so narrow minded as to belive that the human race is the center of the universe …. when for all any one on this planet knows there could be so much more to the universe….
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