Party Vibe

no vendor names on here, you might as well just grass them up to feds/border force, and thus fuck up a good/reliable source (posts on here have been used to prove stuff is being used for human consumption)

best to treat these sort of transactions with exactly the same discretion as buying any kind of illegal drug. Just because you can get away with it doesn’t mean its encouraged or socially acceptable and you can shout about it in public…

that said, the current situation is that a number of research chemicals do remain legal in the UK but aren’t as “strong” as the cathinones, the more effective ones are often as pricey as MDMA and if you are caught in the street or at a club with them the cops will nick you and caution you anyway. if you are raving in Bristol then surely not everyone what parties with you will be 100% sober?

@sungazer 493035 wrote:

You don’t have to accept a caution. If you’re 100% certain what you’ve been caught with is legal then you might as well challenge them to prove otherwise, and avoid the record.

Problem is that a precedent has been set from end 2010 of at least half the legal blends being full of illegal cathinones, and the initial offence itself is normally suspicion of posession rather than posesssion itself, it being then left up to the CSI, CPS and Courts to prove guilt.

so suspects are given the Hobsons choice of a caution or being repeatedly bailed to attend what could be a distant Police station at their own expense and perhaps eventually attend Court – at which point the case can be reported on by the Press and is then listed on line for all to see, and most future employers do at least a Google Search. And many employers prepared to do this may view the Courts verdict as irrelevant, but be more concerned the suspect dared to buck the system. its only Courts what believe “innocent until proven guilty”, everyone else judges according to the power they have within society.

Whereas only certain employers can get the CRB level to see cautions and ironically they tend to be more forgiving – perhaps understandable as taking a caution means you accept you did something wrong rather than stubbornly trying to cherry pick what laws you choose to obey..

@raverboy1210 493042 wrote:

I thought the legal highs were all good and as they were legal u couldn’t get in trouble by the 5.0 (police)

the “legal” bit protects the dealers. Thats why they were viewed as “good” as they are easy money for some if sold in certain ways but on the street the cops are still going to be suspcious.

for the remaining legal research chemicals in the UK there are accurate threads on each one of them on here provided you google the chemical name.

its harder for folk to buy science equipment in the UK (compared to Northern Europe) as science as a hobby here isn’t as popular as in Holland or Germany or Denmark and folk what do it are suspected of being “sad nerds / junkies / bomb makers ” or a combination of the three by their own peers (more so than the feds!!) and sometimes grassed up. however for someone in university or college its a bit easier to order this kit without arousing suspicion if they use common sense

Some electronics places like CPC (a bit like a Brit version of Radio Shack but online) sell scales and its perfectly legal to have them and they are also used for counting things like small metal items (screws, nuts and bolts).

The way to “get away with it” here in Britain is not to try and make out your a big shot psychonaut or activist but to genuinely treat it like a science experiment. (thats actualy how the mainland Europeans do it and they are way ahead of the UK). And if you are not known for anythinng like political/religious extremism or any other crime nor importing blatantly illegal or questionable stuff feds will by and large leave you alone.

even in the controlled and paranoid UK you can actually buy much nastier chemicals online legally for legitimate activities like making electronic circuit boards and some forms of arts/crafts – which more and more people are doing even in Britain though if you do both make sure you don’t cross contaminate things for your own good!