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I thought it would be nice to have a thread on scale use with a bit more focus than the “How do you measure your doses?” thread. I’m going to describe how I weigh powders, and maybe some of you could do the same? I’m sure my technique is not the best – it works for me, but I’d love to improve!
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First, every so often, I will break out my calibration mass set (not the 10g weight which comes with the scale, but a set of tiny weights in varying amount of mgs I bought seperately) to make sure that the scale is working properly. Just a few simple tests, maybe start with 20mg, and a few smaller and larger amounts. When I first got the weights, I spent a LOT of time playing with them to see what this scale could and couldn’t
do.
One thing it can’t really do too well is register very small amounts added slowly. In order to register smaller amounts reliably, the powder must be put in / on something that one can pick up off of the scale and place back down again.
In short, it IS possible to get reliable readings for small doses (say under 10mg). But it is very time-consuming, and it would just seem to risky for me. I don’t use anything that I’m trying to weigh less than say 18mg, so this isn’t a problem for me and I haven’t really addressed a solution. I think the best solution would be to buy a more professional scale.
Here’s an step-by-step example, weighing 20mg using my method:
Using the gemcup, turn on scale and calibrate with the 10g weight.
Place a slick ID card (store membership cards, like from movie rental places, work great for this) centered on the gemcup. Note the weight. Pick up the card and place it down again a couple times to be certain of the repeatability of this weight. Once you’re satisfied with this, write down the number and add to this the weight of your desired dose. (the card I use weighs 3.426g, so for a 20mg dose I’ll be looking for a final weight of 3.446g)
Note: This scale has an automatic shutoff function, which is a pain in the ass. It only takes a moment, however, to start and recalibrate the scale. Expect to have to do this at least once if you’re taking your time. I will just go ahead and do this right before I start weighing the actual dose, so it won’t shut off halfway though.
Now just slowly add powder until you get the desired amount. You will see that the scale doesn’t really register any change as you add the first few mg, but the final weight will be correct. When you need to remove some, it’s easier to take the card off the scale first, remove the powder, and place the card back on. I will also do this at the end to make sure it’s repeatedly measuring the same amount.
At this point, I do a step you could do anytime earlier. I weigh the capsule (both parts) I’m going to use in the gemcup (without the ID card), so I can get additional confirmation of the dose’s weight when I’m done. My size 0 caps weigh 98mg consistently.
There MUST be better methods than mine for the rest, but it works for me. I have a couple sheets of slick magazine paper ready – one for pouring the powder, and one to place underneath while doing the pouring, in case of spills. I fold one paper gently, carefully put the powder near on side of the paper on the fold, pick up the paper and slide
the contents into the large side of the capsule and then close the sucker. Some powders stick to the card and/or paper just a bit and need to be helped along. I’m sure you can think of something to use, I use a jeweler’s screwdriver, which I also use as a spatula for getting the powder out of the vial when weighing.
Now calibrate the scale one last time and weigh the capsule. If you’ve done everything correctly, it should weigh exactly its original weight plus the dose you wanted! Dropping the capsule in my example down into the gemcup, I see 118mg on the readout and am ready to eat drink and be merry.
I can see that I sure could’ve edited and tightened up this post a bit, but it’s ok as is, and I hope some of you will improve on it anyway.
Some vendors in the UK sell milligram (0.001) scales for £25 and are essential for certain chems.
Do your scales not have a ‘Tare’ button? No need to be weighing your card, just hit that button and the scales reset to 0, then you can weigh out whatever your choice of poison on an easily removable flat surface without the need for additional mathematics.
@Tryptameanie 566509 wrote:
Some vendors in the UK sell milligram (0.001) scales for £25 and are essential for certain chems.
I got a decent pair off ebay that range from 20g-0.001g, only spent £12 on them
@The Psyentist 566517 wrote:
I got a decent pair off ebay that range from 20g-0.001g, only spent £12 on them
They work OK? I could do with another set, can you send me a link please?
@Tryptameanie 566519 wrote:
They work OK? I could do with another set, can you send me a link please?
Well admittedly I had to fiddle with the contacts a little bit, as initially they weren’t working. But a quick tweak to bend it back into working order (so the battery was actually making contact to complete the circuit) and I was off. How well do they work, probably not as well as if I’d spent £30 on them, but better than sticking my finger into a full gram of 5-MeO-Mipt. Well no, sticking my finger in the bag worked better, but at least now I know what doses I’m taking lol. The price has decreased slightly more since I purchased them. PRO-20A 0.001g / 20g Digital Milligram Gram Electronic Scale Balance Weight | eBay
Thanks bud. Also never come across 5-MeO-Mipt, gonna look into that now, can you PM me a vendor please?
@Tryptameanie 566526 wrote:
Thanks bud. Also never come across 5-MeO-Mipt, gonna look into that now, can you PM me a vendor please?
For someone who clearly enjoys their tryptamines that surprises me slightly. Although it isn’t exactly popular. I believe it’s the slightly more elusive cousin of Foxy (5-MeO-Dipt), less visual apparently. But I’ve not tried Foxy to make the comparison. To put into perspective; most people have a threshold of around 6mg, so 12-15mg is a decent trip for most. At first I was cautiously eye-balling what I guessed to be less than necessary, just to play it a bit safer as far as hope for the best goes lol. Once I was comfortable with my boundaries though I was just sticking my finger in the bag and consuming ridiculous amounts.
Now I’m even more interested with the comparison to 5-MeO-DiPT.
Edit: if I’d bothered to take more than a glance at the MiPT, I should have known it would be similar to DiPT.
@Tryptameanie 566531 wrote:
Now I’m even more interested with the comparison to 5-MeO-DiPT.
Edit: if I’d bothered to take more than a glance at the MiPT, I should have known it would be similar to DiPT.
I will say it goes marvellously with aMT. This is a fairly detailed report of my initial experience of the two combined https://www.partyvibe.org/forums/drugs/trip-reports/59342-amt-5-meo-mipt-combined.html
@The Psyentist 566533 wrote:
I will say it goes marvellously with aMT. This is a fairly detailed report of my initial experience of the two combined https://www.partyvibe.org/forums/drugs/trip-reports/59342-amt-5-meo-mipt-combined.html
Thanks bud, and what doesn’t go well with aMT, lol. I’m just about to see how some AL-LAD goes with it.
I sell centigram sales (don’t realy know if this is english, anyway 0,01 scales, in french “centième de gr”) that i pay by a grossist for 8 to 11 Euro, but he hasn’t milligram scales.
I had to pay 100 Euro for my personnal milligram scale in a head-shop and would be interested on which site i could find scales as cheap in the UK?
I’ll send you a PM.
@Tryptameanie 566535 wrote:
Thanks bud, and what doesn’t go well with aMT, lol. I’m just about to see how some AL-LAD goes with it.
Sounds like fun. how’s it going?
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