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  • Muslims Out of Australia!

    CANBERRA AUSTRALIA: Muslims who want to live under Islamic Sharia law were told on Wednesday to get out of Australia, as the government targeted radicals in a bid to head off potential terror attacks. A day after a group of mainstream Muslim leaders pledged loyalty to Australia at a special meeting with Prime Minister John Howard, he and his ministers made it clear that extremists would face a crackdown.

    Treasurer Peter Costello, seen as heir apparent to Howard, hinted that some radical clerics could be asked to leave the country if they did not accept that australia was a secular state and its laws were made by parliament. “If those are not your values, if you want a country which has Sharia law or a theocratic state, then Australia is not for you,” he said on national television. “I’d be saying to clerics who are teaching that there are two laws governing people in Australia, one the Australian law and another the Islamic law, that is false.

    If you can’t agree with parliamentary law, independent courts, democracy, and would prefer Sharia law and have the opportunity to go to other country which practices it, perhaps, then, that’s a better option,” Costello said. Asked whether he meant radical clerics would be forced to leave, he said those with dual citizenship could possibly be asked to move to the other country.

    Education Minister Brendan Nelson later told reporters that Muslims who did not want to accept local values should “clear off”. “Basically, people who don’t want to be Australians, and they don’t want to live by Australian values and understand them, well then they can basically clear off,” he said. Separately, Howard angered some Australian Muslims on Wednesday by saying he supported spy agencies monitoring the nation’s mosques.

    Sory to anyone who read the original post I skanked it off SJ and then found out it was fake.

    Sharia law is right wing nonsence its just Nazism under a veil. The post looks fake anyway.

    nah that ones real…the on ei originally poted that I skanked off SJ was faked.

    MrAHC wrote:
    Sharia law is right wing nonsence its just Nazism under a veil. The post looks fake anyway.

    It can be taken to different levels however. Not all Muslims follow it to the extreme, the same as not all Catholics follow Opus Dei rules.

    Although I generally think organised religion is the most corrupt and brainwashing pile of shite ever.

    hey what was the source link? Do you have the name of the paper?Date etc…
    Would like to download it…

    reason being that having moved to sweden last year… there are a lot of immiigrants from all over… some for love, husbands etc.. lots of refugees.. and sweden is having the same types of problems as the refugees wont/cant/dont integrate but take money from the system… Sweden needs to have the balls like OZ to actually say.. hey.. you come here… then you abide by our laws.

    I asked last week why (an iraqi) whos in my swedish class… why he chose sweden to come to… he sad because it was the easiest EU country to gain entry.
    So we have this problem of letting everyone in who are wanting a free ride but dont want to even integrate into the swedish culture.

    So am really interested in the link….just for personal reading really…

    boothy wrote:
    It can be taken to different levels however. Not all Muslims follow it to the extreme, the same as not all Catholics follow Opus Dei rules.

    Although I generally think organised religion is the most corrupt and brainwashing pile of shite ever.

    Shira Law is Shira Law for fucks sake… Is it one law for them and another for us? Fuck Shira law its fuckin well extream.

    MrAHC wrote:
    Shira Law is Shira Law for fucks sake… Is it one law for them and another for us? Fuck Shira law its fuckin well extream.

    Innit fucking terrorist Musilim scum! :rolleyes:

    boothy wrote:
    Innit fucking terrorist Musilim scum! :rolleyes:

    Ok under Shira Law Homosexuality is illeagle. As is adultry, abortion ect ect ect.

    There is a lobby for Shira law in the UK, this would mean every Muslim comunity has seprate courts, seprate laws and seprate sentencing that the rest of the UK.

    Thus 1 law for them and 1 for us.

    Get a grip young man…

    MrAHC wrote:
    Ok under Shira Law Homosexuality is illeagle. As is adultry, abortion ect ect ect.

    There is a lobby for Shira law in the UK, this would mean every Muslim comunity has seprate courts, seprate laws and seprate sentencing that the rest of the UK.

    Thus 1 law for them and 1 for us.

    Get a grip young man…

    Yes and if you are a strict Catholic contraception, sex before marriage, homosexuality, adultery, abortion etc. is also out of the question!

    But all Catholics don’t follow this!

    boothy wrote:
    Yes and if you are a strict Catholic contraception, sex before marriage, homosexuality, adultery, abortion etc. is also out of the question!

    But all Catholics don’t follow this!

    They want there own courts & leagle laws though. And catholics dont stone you for abit of nooky or cut your hands off for nicking a kinder egg..

    Marriage laws

    • The Muslim man who is not currently a fornicator can only marry a Muslim woman who is not currently a fornicatress or a chaste woman from the people of the book.
    • The Muslim woman who is not currently a fornicatress can only marry a Muslim man who is not currently a fornicator.
    • The Muslim fornicator can only marry a Muslim fornicatress.
    • The Muslim fornicatress can only marry a Muslim fornicator.
    • Men can marry up to four wives, but only if they are treated equally. Those who do not consider themselves capable of maintaining just behavior between wives, should refrain from this practice.
    • The woman cannot marry without the consent of her guardian. If she marries, her husband becomes her new guardian.
    • The guardian may choose a suitable partner for a virgin girl, but the girl is free to contest and has the right to say ‘no’.
    • The guardian cannot marry the divorced woman or the widow if she didn’t ask to be married.
    • The number of husbands is limited to one.
    • “Do not marry unless you give your wife something that is her right.” It is obligatory for a man to give bride wealth (gifts) to the woman he marries.[5]

    URL=”http://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=Sharia&action=edit&section=2″%5Dedit%5B/URL Divorce laws

    • A woman who wishes to be divorced usually needs the consent of her husband. However, most schools allow her to obtain a divorce without her husband’s consent if she can show the judge that her husband is mistreating her, failing to support her financially, or is impotent. If the husband consents she does not have to pay back the dower.[Citation Needed]
    • Men have the right of unilateral divorce. A divorce is effective when the man tells his wife that he is divorcing her. At this point the husband must pay the wife the “delayed” component of the dower.
    • A divorced woman of reproductive age must wait three months before marrying again to ensure that she is not pregnant. Her ex-husband should support her financially during this period.[Citation Needed]
    • Under certain circumstances (abuse, for instance), the wife may ask a judge to separate the couple.
    • If a man says “I divorce thee” three times to his wife, he can no longer marry her again unless she marries another man and then divorces.
    • These are guidelines; Islamic law on divorce is different depending on the school of thought.

    URL=”http://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=Sharia&action=edit&section=3″%5Dedit%5B/URL The penalty for theft

    • In accordance with the Qur’an and several hadith, theft is punished by imprisonment or amputation of hands or feet, depending on the number of times it was committed and depending on the item of theft.

    URL=”http://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=Sharia&action=edit&section=4″%5Dedit%5B/URL The penalty for adultery

    • In accordance with hadith, stoning to death is the penalty for married men and women who commit adultery. For unmarried men and women, the punishment prescribed in the Qur’an and hadith is 100 lashes.

    Ill probably be blown up or have my head cut off but i think Islam (In it’s extreme form) is the worst religion of them all. I’d have it banned if i could cos it’s such a barbaric religion and has no place in a civilised world. Now this ain’t racism before anyone starts on me. :crazy_diz

    DJCliffy wrote:
    Ill probably be blown up or have my head cut off but i think Islam (In it’s extreme form) is the worst religion of them all. I’d have it banned if i could cos it’s such a barbaric religion and has no place in a civilised world. Now this ain’t racism before anyone starts on me. :crazy_diz

    I wouldnt go as far as that but I think its an oppressive backward religion even in its milder forms.

    what is going on in Britain is a lot more subtle than many realise and exists because Britain is not a secular country. it is extremely unlikely full Sharia law will ever exist in any country which recognises the UN as it breaches human rights laws.

    Even in many Islamic countries it is either only applied to Muslim communities or used to beef up existing local council laws, particularly restricting access to “un islamic” activities to Muslims. It is only enforced in some developing nations which adopt isolationist policies to the rest of the world or are run by warlords anyway.

    but back to England – The Church of England (as the Lords Spiritual) have direct power to the lawmaking process and have had this for hundreds of years.

    For one thing, its hardly surprising other religious groups want a piece of this power, as their communities gain economic power in England. our nation(s) were after all racked by bitter conflicts between Catholic and Protestant christians which still simmer under the surface.

    Also, the C of E realises that increasing power for any one religion is in fact power to all, as it strengthens the mind set of people once again following organised religion when society is becoming less religious

    it is not Jihad or Al-quaeda anyone should be paranoid about. our cops/feds aren’t stupid and they are gonna make sure angry young men do not cause excessive risk to the market economy, whether they are brown, black, yellow or white.

    the real threat is when Middle England and conservative Islam find common ground and that is really what is happening today.

    its not even the gods they are interested in but getting everyone to go to church or mosque or temple rather than raves or football, and to justify the return of “old style” moral codes for everyone whatever their colour.

    both Daily Mail readers and extremist religious types would love to see death penalty for drugs (or worse sentences).

    what is happening is the religious right wing are stirring the pot to make the young working class hate one another and become divided, whilst rather than “different laws” what they are looking to get is a legal structure where religion can also be used once again to control people whatever their original ancestry may be.

    Tbh i don’t like any religions. I can see what they do for some people but it really ain’t for me. As long as people are safe with each other and look after everyone then that’ll do imo.:love:

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