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Only got told this at the weekend, but apparently its fine and you only need to mix it with a bit of diesel in your tank and it works fine, no problems. Wish id known sooner, would have saved me a lot of money! im off down asda!
“The enterprising motorist was, so the reports suggested, running his diesel-engine motor on a mix of Asda cooking oil and standard fuel. At 42p a litre, the supermarket chain’s oil is considerably cheaper than the 73p a litre that even a discounted retailer charges for diesel. The astonishing thing was it worked. Without any need to modify the engine, the motorist could run his car on the mix with no discernible difference in its performance. What’s more, instead of diesel fumes, the engine gave off a rather pleasing odour – like frying time at the local chippy.”
“Within a few months, more than 300 drivers had joined Nicholson’s web network. But not everyone was thrilled at the rush to bio. “For some reason, the AA put out the story that using cooking oil will either clog up or blow up your engine,” he says. “Well, which is it? It can’t be both. The fact of the matter is, it works brilliantly.”
“This, Nicholson says, is a typical experience of anyone trying to run a vehicle on cooking oil. “The government seems to be making it deliberately difficult,” he says. “The most important thing to remember is, it is not illegal to run your car on cooking oil.” As long as duty is paid, that is. And Nicholson reckons that, since duty is paid retrospectively, even those who were stopped in the south Wales checks were not breaking the law. “I am driving on fuel on which I have not yet paid the tax. I will do, but I don’t need to until it’s used. So was anyone who was stopped given the chance to pay his tax? If not, why not? To stop anybody for using this fuel is harassment.”
“But there is something appealingly anti-establishment about all this; something subversive about how, largely on individual initiative, undertaken without flourish or fanfare, it is possible to sidestep the multinationals and the government and power your car in a natural, clean and efficient way. Today. All you need is a bit of cooking oil, new or second-hand, and the relevant tax return form, available to download from Nicholson’s biopower website.”
RUN a DIESEL CAR on VEGETABLE OIL
and heres the webpage where you can get the tax form to prove that you intend to pay tax if you get caught. whether you actually pay the tax is up to you tho! 😉
the page does have a virus on it, but avast blocked it on mine…
Asda made this story up … it’s true .. but not just Asda’s cooking oil!
@DaftFader 390765 wrote:
Asda made this story up … it’s true .. but not just Asda’s cooking oil!
it does work tho. im gonna give it a go this weekend i think…
yeah it does work … iirc “DJ rich T.” on here used to convert gennys to run on veg oil.
topgear did a thing on this ages ago, not much help but its all I can offer
@DaftFader 390792 wrote:
yeah it does work … iirc “DJ rich T.” on here used to convert gennys to run on veg oil.
afaik you dont even need to do anything to convert the engine. just pour it in your engine and mix it with a little bit of diesel and off you go!
@process 390798 wrote:
afaik you dont even need to do anything to convert the engine. just pour it in your engine and mix it with a little bit of diesel and off you go!
If you use old oil you can smell like fish and chips too 😉
@process 390798 wrote:
afaik you dont even need to do anything to convert the engine. just pour it in your engine and mix it with a little bit of diesel and off you go!
I would check this out first as you don’t wanna fuck up your wheels!
@DaftFader 390804 wrote:
I would check this out first as you don’t wanna fuck up your wheels!
If I recall u need to add a shot of meths or something odd like that
it does work. however it can trash some injectors and fuel pumps on some engines.
you don’t legally have to register to pay the tax for <2500l, but HMRC can demand every receipt you have for oil, and VOSA do check if the use of the stuff has put the vehicle outside EU approved emissions limits.
if you encounter them on a multi agency traffic check and can’t convince them you are intending to pay duty and the vehicle isn’t emitting excessive smoke your pride and joy is off to the pound..
Biomotors.co.uk – Vegetable Oil Driving
using it for electric gensets is OK as they aren’t motor vehicles.
@General Lighting 390842 wrote:
it does work. however it can trash some injectors and fuel pumps on some engines.
you don’t legally have to register to pay the tax for <2500l, but HMRC can demand every receipt you have for oil, and VOSA do check if the use of the stuff has put the vehicle outside EU approved emissions limits.
if you encounter them on a multi agency traffic check and can’t convince them you are intending to pay duty and the vehicle isn’t emitting excessive smoke your pride and joy is off to the pound..
Biomotors.co.uk – Vegetable Oil Driving
using it for electric gensets is OK as they aren’t motor vehicles.
dont suppose you know which engines they are that may be effected? also if they do impound it, but then you pay the additional tax would you be able to get it back without having to pay as they would have impounded it wrongly?
@process 390844 wrote:
dont suppose you know which engines they are that may be effected? also if they do impound it, but then you pay the additional tax would you be able to get it back without having to pay as they would have impounded it wrongly?
there are threads on TL about this and its also mentioned on the websites. Unfortunately I’m not a mechanic/gary boy (and haven’t yet got a diesel genset) so don’t know off by heart – and do you really want to be poking about under the bonnet in this heat trying to identify what fuel pump / engine etc you have anyway?
that articles old, cheapest veg oil is about 11.8p per 100ml at Asda, making it £1.18 per litre.
Search Results for ip14 – PetrolPrices.com
IMO its not worth the hassle now prices of oil have gone up!
Tesco is selling some 1l bottles cheaper but the 3l ones are (curiously) priced higher which must mean they are on to this. staff can ration how much they sell, or might well dob you in if they think you might be putting it in the vehicle (they are potentially aiding and abetting a crime or might simply decide they disagree with what you are doing) and and there are cameras in the car parks.
if you get pounded it would be for not having correct records of the alternative fuels or being outside emmissions limits which are offences in themselves.
The authorities would argue it was proportionate so you’d pay the cost of getting the van out, dealing with the “GV” whatever it is to get the exhaust retested and the duty on the fuel! its the same as if you were busted for drugs and they turned out to be not a controlled substance, the cops don’t refund your travel costs for answering to bail..
@General Lighting 390850 wrote:
there are threads on TL about this and its also mentioned on the websites. Unfortunately I’m not a mechanic/gary boy (and haven’t yet got a diesel genset) so don’t know off by heart – and do you really want to be poking about under the bonnet in this heat trying to identify what fuel pump / engine etc you have anyway?
No. 🙂that articles old, cheapest veg oil is about 11.8p per 100ml at Asda, making it £1.18 per litre.
Search Results for ip14 – PetrolPrices.com
IMO its not worth the hassle now prices of oil have gone up!
Tesco is selling some 1l bottles cheaper but the 3l ones are (curiously) priced higher which must mean they are on to this. staff can ration how much they sell, or might well dob you in if they think you might be putting it in the vehicle (they are potentially aiding and abetting a crime or might simply decide they disagree with what you are doing) and and there are cameras in the car parks.
if you get pounded it would be for not having correct records of the alternative fuels or being outside emmissions limits which are offences in themselves.
The authorities would argue it was proportionate so you’d pay the cost of getting the van out, dealing with the “GV” whatever it is to get the exhaust retested and the duty on the fuel! its the same as if you were busted for drugs and they turned out to be not a controlled substance, the cops don’t refund your travel costs for answering to bail..
if the price of a litre of oil is 1.18. its not really worth it. the price of diesel in ipswich is 1.16 this morning! also guess it would be a bit stupid if i fucked up the engine of me van just as i was trying to sell it! :laugh_at:
there are other ethical / environmental aspects of not using new SVO as biodiesel as its motor fuel competing for food resources plus in foreign nations loads of rainforests are cut down to plant the palm trees.
plus also happens to be the part of the world where my extended family are from and also where you want to be heading to for your diving so makes sense not to trash it too..
@General Lighting 390854 wrote:
there are other ethical / environmental aspects of not using new SVO as biodiesel as its motor fuel competing for food resources plus in foreign nations loads of rainforests are cut down to plant the palm trees.
plus also happens to be the part of the world where my extended family are from and also where you want to be heading to for your diving so makes sense not to trash it too..
i watched a program about this the other day actually. about how palm oil is destroying large amounts of ecosystems and just replacing them with one ecosystem where nothing much can live and also how the leaves are actually poisenous when they fall to the floor and poisen the earth meaning nothing else can grow.
same thing as tofu. (sort of) If ever a vegetarian gets pissy at me for eating beef and deforesting the rainforest then its always a good argument to remind them that soya bean plantations are pretty much doing the same thing! not that i have a problem with veggies tho…
mad world we live in where it might actually better for the environment to use diesel rather than eco-fuels!
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